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Old 07-16-2019, 10:02 AM   #16
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Take a course in Market Research 101 and it will explain all about required sample sizes to make the results of a survey valid within a specific margin of error.
Yes speed, been there, and 1000 extrapolated to millions would have a huge margin of error, rendering the presentation humorous at best.
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Old 07-16-2019, 04:03 PM   #17
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The poll sample was biased but it was supposed to be biased. The poll may have or may not have met its intent of mining into the swing vote in certain House districts.

My main point is that the poll told us nothing about who certain swing states prefer for POTUS, as BB implied it did.
Say all you want SPPED but the hand wringing on the left is...PRICELESS!!
These four miscreants could cost you your precious house!!

https://www.mrctv.org/videos/ex-news...s-through-2020
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Old 07-17-2019, 08:04 AM   #18
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Say all you want SPPED but the hand wringing on the left is...PRICELESS!!
These four miscreants could cost you your precious house!!

https://www.mrctv.org/videos/ex-news...s-through-2020
Could be. Or could not be. In 2020 I will vote for a person to represent me in the House. Who is running in the other 434 House districts is irrelevant to me. Whether I agree or disagree with "those four miscreants" will not impact my vote. My expectation is that those four will have minimal impact on the votes of people in the other districts.

My early prediction is Democrats hold the House and Republicans hold the Senate.
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Old 07-17-2019, 08:05 AM   #19
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Yes speed, been there, and 1000 extrapolated to millions would have a huge margin of error, rendering the presentation humorous at best.
Again you are incorrect in your understanding of how surveys work.
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Old 07-17-2019, 01:31 PM   #20
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I totally disagree with that statement on the 4. Respectfully,of course. They are already having an impact. Trump's approval rating just went up to 50 percent. I don't think you understand how their reteroic ( which is embraced by Dem candidates) scares the shit out of most middle America voters. This was well played by President Trump.



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Could be. Or could not be. In 2020 I will vote for a person to represent me in the House. Who is running in the other 434 House districts is irrelevant to me. Whether I agree or disagree with "those four miscreants" will not impact my vote. My expectation is that those four will have minimal impact on the votes of people in the other districts.

My early prediction is Democrats hold the House and Republicans hold the Senate.
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Old 07-17-2019, 01:38 PM   #21
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Could be. Or could not be. In 2020 I will vote for a person to represent me in the House. Who is running in the other 434 House districts is irrelevant to me. Whether I agree or disagree with "those four miscreants" will not impact my vote. My expectation is that those four will have minimal impact on the votes of people in the other districts.

My early prediction is Democrats hold the House and Republicans hold the Senate.
These liberal pundits speak volumes...if you choose to listen is up to you SPEED.
The video details the rejection of SOCIALISM by swing voters...sounds like your ideology is not selling with the swing voters...Gumment involvement.
P.S. You need to tell these pundits that the Democraps aren't socialists.

https://www.mrctv.org/videos/ex-news...s-through-2020
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I totally disagree with that statement on the 4. Respectfully,of course. They are already having an impact. Trump's approval rating just went up to 50 percent. I don't think you understand how their reteroic ( which is embraced by Dem candidates) scares the shit out of most middle America voters. This was well played by President Trump.
The ONLY poll that has Trump at 50% approval rate is the latest Rasmussen poll. In earlier Rasmussen polls Trump has been at 50% several times and at 51% in early June. So in 5 weeks his approval rating, according to Rasmussen, has DROPPED one percent. Statistically insignificant. As always, I warn you and everyone else to put too much faith in a single poll taken at a single point in time. Especially Rasmussen which has shown a pro-Republican bias in their sampling methodology over the years. My advice, as always, is to use FiveThirtyEight and RealClearPolitics which summarize ALL polls on the subject. Trump has had some upward movement at the summary level but nothing major.

As for the impact of the "Fab Four". Among Republicans Trunp's recent approval ratings have gone up 5% according to the latest Reuters/Ipsos poll taken on Sunday and Monday after Trump's "racist" tweets. But his overall approval rating according to the poll is 41%. His approval rating among independents, the voting bloc that will in all likelihood determine the outcome in 2020, dropped 10%.

So the reality is that from everything recent the divide continues between Democrats and Republicans. Trump supporters applaud his responses to the "Fab Four". For those who oppose him it is simply another reason to vote against him.

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/...-like-him-more
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Old 07-17-2019, 03:20 PM   #23
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These liberal pundits speak volumes...if you choose to listen is up to you SPEED.
The video details the rejection of SOCIALISM by swing voters...sounds like your ideology is not selling with the swing voters...Gumment involvement.
P.S. You need to tell these pundits that the Democraps aren't socialists.

https://www.mrctv.org/videos/ex-news...s-through-2020
Then why does every poll, including one conducted by Trump's internal staff, have him losing to not only Biden but several other Democratic contenders? Even Rasmussen, the most pro-Republican poll out there, has Trump losing to Biden.

https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-favo...atchup-1447885

And please stop with the socialism rhetoric. No one is buying it on a national level. Once again you are putting all people left of center in to a single bucket, all thinking and supporting the same issues the same way. Some day you'll understand.
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Then why does every poll, including one conducted by Trump's internal staff, have him losing to not only Biden but several other Democratic contenders? Even Rasmussen, the most pro-Republican poll out there, has Trump losing to Biden.

https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-favo...atchup-1447885

And please stop with the socialism rhetoric. No one is buying it on a national level. Once again you are putting all people left of center in to a single bucket, all thinking and supporting the same issues the same way. Some day you'll understand.



would you prefer a basket of deplorables?


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BAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAA
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would you prefer a basket of deplorables?


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BAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAA
You should be very happy Clinton made that statement. Possibly cost her the election.
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You should be very happy Clinton made that statement. Possibly cost her the election.
it didn't keep you from voting for her though
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You should be very happy Clinton made that statement. Possibly cost her the election.



Ecstatic .. aren't you??


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Then why does every poll, including one conducted by Trump's internal staff, have him losing to not only Biden but several other Democratic contenders? Even Rasmussen, the most pro-Republican poll out there, has Trump losing to Biden.

https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-favo...atchup-1447885

And please stop with the socialism rhetoric. No one is buying it on a national level. Once again you are putting all people left of center in to a single bucket, all thinking and supporting the same issues the same way. Some day you'll understand.
Yeah SPEED the video is not something you watch for any kind of understanding of the dire situation the left is in because of the 4 radicals that are trying to hijack the agenda of the "moderates".

What about your premature celebration in the 2016 election...which LL so graciously posted YOUR "prediction" that Trump was toast when you were ready to toast?? Don't let your predictions of a 2020 Trump loss just frustrate you more.

This caveman in the house just handed Trump a major victory...Bullosey is stewing in her own juices!! This must make you shake your head and ask yourself...WTF is my party thinking.
That's just it SPEED...your party isn't thinking.

Impeach because he and all that disagree with the radical four are racist...it's the new catch phrase of the left...hell AOC called her own leader a racist...see how it works SPEED. As so eloquently said by the senator from Louisiana..."The Four Horsewomen of the Apocalypse"!!

Someday you'll understand...hopefully.
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Old 07-17-2019, 04:11 PM   #29
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SR - the National Debate of the DPSAT party is clearly controlled by the ultra Left progressive socialists - the Gang of four, etc. They are controlling the debate with the LSM.

All the DPST candidates are trying to out-do each other in socialist rhetoric and freebie giveaways with no source fo funding but higher taxes and more government control.
Like - the Soylent green New Deal - Trillions for ?? benefit.
The Left "moderates" are tarring themselves with the rhetoric of the Socialists. While You may be correct that not all "Left of center" are extremeists - the DPST's are certainly painting themselves as such.

Middle America won't go for it. Enough of _"Less expensive and you can keep your doctor" - now it is wondeful "Medicare for All" - except the Nomenklatura DPST Congress.

I lost my private insurance for Medicare - it is more expensive and less effective - and I am a physician.
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Old 07-17-2019, 04:35 PM   #30
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The democrats really had a chance to really make a great change. Instead they became a lynch mob. That's sad.
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