If you like Tehran 1979, you're going to love the sequel; Baghdad 2014

[timpage]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

You can try to go back to the original sin but this particular problem started not with the invasion and liberation, but the failure to keep American (and our allies) troops in Iraq to deter something like this from happening. You can go read Paul Bremer. He repeats today what I said a couple of days ago.

You're a fucking idiot. This problem doesn't exist without your precious invasion and "liberation." (that's a whole other topic.....look what your "liberation" has led to) Period. You can try to spin it any fuckin' way you want Admiral, but it all goes back to that. No invasion and, setting aside the trillion dollars we spent and the 4,400 US service men and women who would still be alive, no current crisis, no ISIS, no US personnel in that shithole of a country and......none of the problems we are currently experiencing. This shit is on you and yours, nobody else.

The only reason American lives are at risk right now is because of your stupid invasion. The idea that the solution to this problem is the never-ending perpetual presence of American combat troops in Iraq is equally stupid. We get to go to war with a different group of religious whackjobs every few years, starting with ISIS. It's a dumb plan, it's always been a dumb plan and it will always be a dumb plan. Dunce.

[nevergaveitathought]

im with you JD...every president begins his presidency with the issues he faces...and is responsible for how he deals with them "as is"

losers and whiners and incompetents and a president like obama, who likes the gad about features of a presidency and the chances to meet beyonce, but never had a serious bone in his body save for America has been wrong abt almost everything...and tries to find his social justice in overwhelming the system..they point fingers when their lackadaisicalness blows up

[Jackie S]

Originally Posted by timpage

You're a fucking idiot. This problem doesn't exist without your precious invasion and "liberation." (that's a whole other topic.....look what your "liberation" has led to) Period. You can try to spin it any fuckin' way you want Admiral, but it all goes back to that. No invasion and, setting aside the trillion dollars we spent and the 4,400 US service men and women who would still be alive, no current crisis, no ISIS, no US personnel in that shithole of a country and......none of the problems we are currently experiencing. This shit is on you and yours, nobody else.

The only reason American lives are at risk right now is because of your stupid invasion. The idea that the solution to this problem is the never-ending perpetual presence of American combat troops in Iraq is equally stupid. We get to go to war with a different group of religious whackjobs every few years, starting with ISIS. It's a dumb plan, it's always been a dumb plan and it will always be a dumb plan. Dunce.

Say what you will about Saddam and his two fine Sons, they kept a lid on this shit.

Like Bashar Alassad does in Syria.

[JD Barleycorn]

Well Timmie, Paul Bremer had a few more things to say about all this. He gives credit to the VICTORY in Iraq as the start of the Arab Spring. No victory, no hope. Except what happened? Obama ignored Iran, picked the terrorists in Egypt and Libya to win, and can you believe this, tried to take credit for the uprising! It's a laugh a minute at the Obama State Department. No, you can squeal like a little school girl Timmie but you can't change the facts on the ground. This is all Obama....unless you want to blame Jimmy Carter for getting us into the Middle East with his accords (not the car), recognition of Arafat, and the loss of Iran. Failure loves company.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

You can try to go back to the original sin but this particular problem started not with the invasion and liberation, but the failure to keep American (and our allies) troops in Iraq to deter something like this from happening. You can go read Paul Bremer. He repeats today what I said a couple of days ago.

Paul Bremer the original problem.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Well Timmie, Paul Bremer had a few more things to say about all this. He gives credit to the VICTORY in Iraq as the start of the Arab Spring. No victory, no hope. Except what happened? Obama ignored Iran, picked the terrorists in Egypt and Libya to win, and can you believe this, tried to take credit for the uprising! It's a laugh a minute at the Obama State Department. No, you can squeal like a little school girl Timmie but you can't change the facts on the ground. This is all Obama....unless you want to blame Jimmy Carter for getting us into the Middle East with his accords (not the car), recognition of Arafat, and the loss of Iran. Failure loves company.

That is a pathetic rant that makes no sense at all. What "victory"? There never was one. We removed Sadam, and that was about it. No stable self supporting democracy. How is that 'Victory"? Or "Mission accomplished"? No positive long lasting result was accomplished. Only a blind RWW can distort reality to not blame the arsonist. So once more--HOW LONG do you support keeping the pressure cooker lid on?

[Guest040616]

Originally Posted by Old-T

So once more--HOW LONG do you support keeping the pressure cooker lid on?

JDIdiot, along with his identical twin IB, both have exclusive Patriarchal approval to bitch and moan about anything and everything, as long as a Democrat occupies the White House.

And the Patriarch (LexiLiar) calls himself a Democrat!










(More along the lines of a Strom Thurmond style Democrat.)

[JD Barleycorn]

No victory? Now who's being myopic? It is the peace that is being lost.

[Sidewinder]

Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

i don't think the ISIS is as dumb as you JD- taking American hostages would mean massive U.S strike which would slow their progress.

Just like it meant in Tehran in 1979, last time kinda crap happened under a Democrat President?

[Sidewinder]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

You can try to go back to the original sin but this particular problem started not with the invasion and liberation, but the failure to keep American (and our allies) troops in Iraq to deter something like this from happening. You can go read Paul Bremer. He repeats today what I said a couple of days ago.

Paul Bremer, the most incompetent proconsul seen on the face of the Earth for at least the last two thousand years, is the idiot who disbanded the Iraqi Army and did the first round of stage-setting for this Charlie Foxtrot.

You REALLY need to get out more.

[CuteOldGuy]

The end result of all our blood and money spent in Iraq will be that Iraq will be worse off that it was under Saddam, and will likely actively pursue WMDs.

Happy now?

[IIFFOFRDB]

[IIFFOFRDB]

https://www.familysecuritymatters.or...ap-during-wwii







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[Old-T]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

No victory? Now who's being myopic? It is the peace that is being lost.

Correct--no victory. Show me your definition of "victory" I see nothing that is a significant sustainable improvement. Where do YOU see that?

[Old-T]

Great non sequitor IIFFy. As we typically expect from you.

There is no one on this board who more consistently makes absurd illogical "connections" than you do.