You have the chance to say no

[hyperkine]

Originally Posted by Blond_Lily

I'm sorry the praise we get for providing good service is so offensive to you. Maybe there are some men who genuinely like to show their appreciation instead of talk down to us. I honestly just appreciated the compliments like the other ladies. I didn't realize it was that off putting.

Compliments are not offensive to me nor are they off putting, and I'm sure you know that. I have a problem when a single negative newbie-written review causes a minor shitstorm, with fans of the lady crapping on the review, and multiple threads being started over that one possibly suspect review.

The crystal clear message is, don't write the slightest negative thing on anyone's who's well established, or you will pay a heavy price.

The hell with that. Menus and prices are already gone...if negative information and reviews are to be so discouraged, it really reduces the utility of this board even more.

[Lily Blair]

Do you feel like maybe all of the other men on this board have overlooked Ali's pictures and have been hypnotized into believing that they are really her, while this one newbie is the only one who has discovered that they are fake?

Let's hope not.

I don't see anything wrong with the men who have seen Ali to say 'no, you're wrong, I've seen her and her pictures are totally accurate if not better.' Isn't that information valid as well? Or should we all have ignored it and just taken this guy's opinion as fact without correcting his mistake? If someone writes a review on me saying that I'm the most petite spinner they've ever met, would you just prefer no one correct him and everyone go on believing that I'd suddenly shrunk overnight? Would that not be ridiculous?

Because this board is about accurate information, I think it's only fair that ANY incorrect information is corrected. And regarding Ali's response, I think it's more than reasonable that she explained the situation. I think she's admitting that she may have been acting less than receptive and like she didn't want to be there, but is explaining that if you constantly leave the room or act like a weirdo, you will cause this behavior to come out of a provider. We aren't robots. And now future clients will know that if they act like drug using freaks, it may affect her level of passion during the date.

But I gues you'd prefer every comment to be taken at face value and every provider to keep her mouth shut. In that case I would like to make an announcement:

I've shrunken down to a size 2 since yesterday. I also have four boobs that are all DD's with dinner plate nipples that stick out like plums. And anybody who thinks I'm lying can just shut up because hyperkine will get pissed if you dispute anything you may feel is incorrect. So sayeth the Lily.

[LittleRockLover]

LMFAO!!! Lily, we have never met but you just moved to the top of my list next time you are in Little Rock! (Just the way you are btw, without the 4 boobs ;-) That was the funniest damn post I have ever read!!!!

[Lily Blair]

Don't question my four boobs! They're there! No disputing FACTS please!!!

And I am in little rock

[hyperkine]

Originally Posted by Blond_Lily

Do you feel like maybe all of the other men on this board have overlooked Ali's pictures and have been hypnotized into believing that they are really her, while this one newbie is the only one who has discovered that they are fake?

Let's hope not.

I don't see anything wrong with the men who have seen Ali to say 'no, you're wrong, I've seen her and her pictures are totally accurate if not better.' Isn't that information valid as well? Or should we all have ignored it and just taken this guy's opinion as fact without correcting his mistake? If someone writes a review on me saying that I'm the most petite spinner they've ever met, would you just prefer no one correct him and everyone go on believing that I'd suddenly shrunk overnight? Would that not be ridiculous?

Because this board is about accurate information, I think it's only fair that ANY incorrect information is corrected. And regarding Ali's response, I think it's more than reasonable that she explained the situation. I think she's admitting that she may have been acting less than receptive and like she didn't want to be there, but is explaining that if you constantly leave the room or act like a weirdo, you will cause this behavior to come out of a provider. We aren't robots. And now future clients will know that if they act like drug using freaks, it may affect her level of passion during the date.

But I gues you'd prefer every comment to be taken at face value and every provider to keep her mouth shut..

Again, I believe no such thing. Taking what I've written and extending and twisting it well beyond the clear meaning is unhelpful.

There was also a guy in that thread who took a risk and actually corroborated (what a traitor, huh) some of the negative info.

There's a difference between replying with something along the lines of "Thanks for the review, sorry to hear about your bad experience, mine was better" and the public groveling and white knighting that we largely got. All of this over one short, badly written negative review, by a credibility challenged reviewer.

[guest071811-3]

hyperkine..more true words may have never been spoken.. those that hobby outside of LR know this to be true.. bigger cities where supply and demand is far greater..this kinda stuff goes unnoticed or gets dismissed alot easier.. smaller communities this happens all to often..

i don't know one way or another.. but if the guy says he don't think her pics are accurate no one can tell him his opinion is wrong or that makes him fake.. thats his opinion..he is entitled to it.. someone saying that they believe it to be the same or better than the pics makes no difference either.. thats another guys opinion..

however you did state the truth.. guys are so worried about being blacklisted or presumably screwing themselves out of p4p scene that they kiss ass rather than be honest.. not saying thats so in this case..but i know where you are coming from..

if you jump on a review and try to elude to or make others believe that the review may be inaccurate with your statements you are WKing for a lady..plain and simple.. personally.. i think reviews should be locked as soon as they are posted.. any dispute from the reviewed lady can be handled in coed if the mod approves.. otherwise..let the reviews stand on their own..smart guys can figure out whats legit and don't need the wks trailing in to wipe some ass and get in the good graces of the hired help.. just sayin

i mean this as no offense.. but as i said.. anyone that hobbies outside of LR knows this would be a mere blip on any major city and guys need not be so afraid of tellign the truth in their reviews.. reviews are written to be informative..not to help a girl guys ought not respond if they don't wanna be called WK's if you respond to help improve the review..thats one thing..trying to dispute this guys opinion or take on the situation seems goofy at best.. fine.. 50 other guys think something totally different.. it doesn't mean he is wrong in his opinion of the subject

hell i don't even know what guy, what review, but i figured out the provider part.. ali, all i can say is sometimes u gotta let shit go.. if its really no big deal then let it go..

as far as CM.. there was a secret vote with select people and most in arkansas wasn't invited.. i was voted to stay for awhile.. we will vote again in the year 2050

[Lily Blair]

I'm just wondering though, if the above were said about me, would you want someone to correct the information? Or would you rather not know and make an appointment with me thinking I had four boobs and was a size 2?

Correct information? Or incorrect? Which do you want?

Facts or lies? You have to pick one.

[hyperkine]

Besides binary lies and facts there's a continuum of opinions, differing experiences, and subtleties of perception. I will set aside your hypothetical parody and restate my very real original point:

Responses and attitudes to negative reviews of established providers here are often overly harsh and demeaning, to the point that the very act of contributing useful, constructive negative information and reviews is greatly discouraged. And I wish that would change.

[Mr.Chan]

Honorable gentleman is correct. Harsh treatment follows negative statements about favored ladies. White Knights abound, even to include those who decry the practice. As ladies and gentlemen should know, this is neither board nor business for thin skinned people. It is difficult for lady to see unfavorable statements that impact self image and perceptions of future clients. Likewise not easy for gentleman who give good review to lady see same described as less than adequate. That is how it goes. Post as honest picture as possible, give as good service as able and write review as truthfully as you can. All else will be maintained by courtesy.
Somewhere between the fact and the lie is the truth.

Originally Posted by hyperkine

Besides binary lies and facts there's a continuum of opinions, differing experiences, and subtleties of perception. I will set aside your hypothetical parody and restate my very real original point:

Responses and attitudes to negative reviews of established providers here are often overly harsh and demeaning, to the point that the very act of contributing useful, constructive negative information and reviews is greatly discouraged. And I wish that would change.

[dddd1135]

I doubt seriously I'd post a negative review of an established provider from Arkansas. Its just too small a community, and a provider has to earn a living. My mistake for not screening for someone local. Any negative review would be a serious warning for others. I feel more at ease posting a positive for providers from outside Arkansas. I gotta know local providers better before a review. Good lord, the ML is not a safe place for candid comments, much less the review section.

Unpardonable sin for this guy are providers using misleading pics. On turning away at door, I hope I have sense enough and screened enough to not face that circumstance. Also Arkansas has far less anonymity that Dallas, NOLA, Houston.......If I did turn someone away, I'd probably pay her enough to go away in peace, or be prepared to call LE or desk clerk.

I had heard Lily only had 3 boobs and was really a size 5? Now if she had two and was size_______?

[fast lane]

I agree with you chan, it is our providers responsibility to post accurate pics. If I have made my mind up, which usually takes time and careful consideration, to see one provider or another I would hope that the model I saw in the window was the exact model after opening the box. You know what I mean?

And I meant no harm if this was in some way meant to include me. Ali is a terrific lady with charm and personality. I did, however, feel somewhat mislead after the present was unwrapped. I expected to see the one pic that made me call(the one where on knees facing the camera). To my dismay, it was not so. Pretty face, personality for days, talented for sure. No need to post inaccurate pics because there is enough there to attract many clients.

I'm positive I will be absolutely crucified for being honest here. Then so be it. We should expect, though, to get what we're paying for. Especially when we try our best to "screen" the providers before we see them. It goes both ways people.

[MrGiz]

Originally Posted by hyperkine

. . . . Responses and attitudes to negative reviews of established providers here are often overly harsh and demeaning, to the point that the very act of contributing useful, constructive negative information and reviews is greatly discouraged. And I wish that would change.

I understand the general premise of what you say.... but I can't say that I completely agree. More often than not... if you're talking about well respected "established providers".... I would say that we (as a community) tend to hold all negative comments to accuracy & honesty, rather than silently allowing undeserved slander. There is a discernable difference! Some people are better at realizing the difference between opinions and "right & wrong" , than others.

Giz
In the case at hand.... seems to me to be a lack of initial research, as opposed to false advertisement.

[ali*cat]

SMH

[willro]

I like that FastLane, and a couple others, use the term "accurate pics" and not just "real pics." I have answered a door before to find the girl in the photo, but she had apparently picked up 35-40lbs on the drive to the hotel. I was pissed because I felt like I had been tricked/hustled. However, she still looked good to me at her larger size, and I would still have been interested, but because I felt like she wasn't being honest I was instantly pissed.

[Hiney2do]

Originally Posted by dddd1135

I doubt seriously I'd post a negative review of an established provider from Arkansas. Its just too small a community, and a provider has to earn a living.

Seriously?? When did the sharing of information on the board get to the point of sharing only if it does not offend anyone? I do believe that Giz has said it before....the experience, good or bad, is yours and yours alone. We all have the right to express our experience from our point of view and, time will tell, as more reviews are "truthfully" posted about a provider if she is consistant in her services.

I would hope that Ali's recent bad review is a just one person's experience, and her service is top notch as in her previous reviews. Or is this a yes maam board and all of her previous positive reviews are put there "so as not to piss anyone off". If this is true, then it defeats the legitimacy of her previous reviews and ultimately degrades that value of the board.