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pensfan123456 · 03-19-2021, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MorganOBM

I’m dying for an answer here lol. I offered them years ago for a very short time before I figured out they were only for those trying to push them to 40/45 minutes. These days it’s pretty rare an encounter only lasts an hour and most are 2-3, so when the rare person asks for a hh rate it makes me laugh a little. How do you dress and undress plus have any fun at all in 30 minutes? Do tell.

Like others have said, the days of providers providing an unrushed, client-focused experience are long gone, for the most part.

I used to strictly do hour appointments back in the ASPD/early Indys days. The providers cared about their reputation and spent the time with you, and seemed to genuinely enjoy themselves while providing.

The reality is, most of the girls these days literally have your dick in their mouth within 2 minutes of walking in the door, not because they want the dick, but because they want you to cum and get out of there as soon as possible. And they are on their phone lining up their next appointment while you are getting dressed. If the provider is treating it as their job to get me off as soon as possible so they can get me out of there, my goal then becomes to spend as little as possible to get off.

If there were young, thin, pretty providers that wanted to provide a true GFE experience, they would do extremely well nowadays. But those days just arent coming back.

BudakaL · 03-19-2021, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MorganOBM

I’m dying for an answer here lol. I offered them years ago for a very short time before I figured out they were only for those trying to push them to 40/45 minutes. These days it’s pretty rare an encounter only lasts an hour and most are 2-3, so when the rare person asks for a hh rate it makes me laugh a little. How do you dress and undress plus have any fun at all in 30 minutes? Do tell.

I think it depends on 1- what I’m looking for 2- quality of the providers. If I’m looking to just get off with a average girl and it’s 30 min for 80-100 that may work for me that day. If I looking for an experience with a high level provider then 1 + hrs for whatever rate is what I’ll go for. Sometimes it’s about in and out and getting off and sometimes it’s about taking in the experience

DrivesAllDay · 03-19-2021, 05:23 PM

Maybe I'm just weird? I like the 30 minutes if its someone I never saw before. Its like asking 30 minutes in a dentist chair or 1 hour in a dentist chair. 30 minutes to test the waters, so to speak.

MorganOBM · 03-19-2021, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pensfan123456

Like others have said, the days of providers providing an unrushed, client-focused experience are long gone, for the most part.

I used to strictly do hour appointments back in the ASPD/early Indys days. The providers cared about their reputation and spent the time with you, and seemed to genuinely enjoy themselves while providing.

The reality is, most of the girls these days literally have your dick in their mouth within 2 minutes of walking in the door, not because they want the dick, but because they want you to cum and get out of there as soon as possible. And they are on their phone lining up their next appointment while you are getting dressed. If the provider is treating it as their job to get me off as soon as possible so they can get me out of there, my goal then becomes to spend as little as possible to get off.

If there were young, thin, pretty providers that wanted to provide a true GFE experience, they would do extremely well nowadays. But those days just arent coming back.

I’m not sure what the market is for young providers since I’m not one. I wasn’t a very good provider when I was in my 20s at least compared to what I am now. I do extremely well not being young or thin, so it must not be everyone’s holy grail.
Honestly, Eccie is the only place I repeatedly see that ideal. I do notice as I get older the client age gets younger, am I safe in assuming all the ones seeking the young ones are old? Another curiosity...

Looker151 · 03-20-2021, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MorganOBM

I’m not sure what the market is for young providers since I’m not one. I wasn’t a very good provider when I was in my 20s at least compared to what I am now. I do extremely well not being young or thin, so it must not be everyone’s holy grail.
Honestly, Eccie is the only place I repeatedly see that ideal. I do notice as I get older the client age gets younger, am I safe in assuming all the ones seeking the young ones are old? Another curiosity...

Since passing the big six-o, I look for older, fuller figured girls. Hh is my norm, since I don't last long, why pay for the hr?

yinzerpgh · 03-20-2021, 06:54 AM

To answer your original question, I am simply there to get my rocks off. I don't care to chat, find out about (the drama in) her day, or learn the name of her next appointment (lol). If she's really good, I'll be outta there in less than 15 min.
Plus, I am of the age where 2 pops in an hour are long gone. Hell, if I can get 2 pops in 24 hours, I think I'm a rockstar lol

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Originally Posted by MorganOBM

I’m not sure what the market is for young providers since I’m not one. I wasn’t a very good provider when I was in my 20s at least compared to what I am now. I do extremely well not being young or thin, so it must not be everyone’s holy grail.
Honestly, Eccie is the only place I repeatedly see that ideal. I do notice as I get older the client age gets younger, am I safe in assuming all the ones seeking the young ones are old? Another curiosity...

I cannot say why your clients seem to be getting younger, but I know that for me, young girls are less...'curvy'. I like skinny girls, and it's difficult to find a skinny girl, let alone a skinny one that's in her 30's.

DaveHo · 03-20-2021, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MorganOBM

I wasn’t a very good provider when I was in my 20s at least compared to what I am now.

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Originally Posted by MorganOBM

I got a text from NY that asked for 15 min and 30 min rates. I just ignored it

Good to see you've reached such heights of professionalism.

MorganOBM · 03-20-2021, 08:56 AM

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Good to see you've reached such heights of professionalism.

My website is really clear that my minimum is one hour and considering the amount of time and money I’ve invested in a very clear and informative website I think I’m well within my rights to ignore answered questions and stay professional dear. I slept well that night.

Thanks for all the responses! It’s nice to see a civil thread here

MorganOBM · 03-20-2021, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by yinzerpgh

To answer your original question, I am simply there to get my rocks off. I don't care to chat, find out about (the drama in) her day, or learn the name of her next appointment (lol). If she's really good, I'll be outta there in less than 15 min.
Plus, I am of the age where 2 pops in an hour are long gone. Hell, if I can get 2 pops in 24 hours, I think I'm a rockstar lol

I cannot say why your clients seem to be getting younger, but I know that for me, young girls are less...'curvy'. I like skinny girls, and it's difficult to find a skinny girl, let alone a skinny one that's in her 30's.

It’s ok to say fat lol and it’s ok to like really thin chicks. I guess a lot of hh are without any teasing or foreplay and that’s probably my favorite part. Quickies definitely have their place in life and that’s awesome. This biz is all about variety!

Spazzer37golf · 03-20-2021, 09:15 AM

I can get what I want within 30 minutes. And honestly, there aren't many providers I'd like to spend that kind of time with. They serve a purpose. I reserve longer longer dates for sb types. Anymore it's sb types anyways. Not many providers left I haven't seen or want to see again. Pittsburgh is a sad town anymore...

Looker151 · 03-20-2021, 11:20 AM

Judging by your pics, you are not fat. Lately I have been paying attention to the bbw ads, not many that I would see,lol. Glad you started this discussion, it was very interesting, stay safe out there.

MorganOBM · 03-20-2021, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Spazzer37golf

I can get what I want within 30 minutes. And honestly, there aren't many providers I'd like to spend that kind of time with. They serve a purpose. I reserve longer longer dates for sb types. Anymore it's sb types anyways. Not many providers left I haven't seen or want to see again. Pittsburgh is a sad town anymore...

When I was the SB type I was seeing more men than when I was escorting lmao. I finally gave up and put up an ad. Does it make you feel better?

Well providers are only going to be as good as the hobbyists. I’d say for local talent you guys have it really good. I’m not being a smart ass but girls aren’t going to flock to a town where the main objective is to get in and out in 10 minutes. I don’t know many girls in the biz anymore but I do chat with a lot of super hot touring providers (references) and they have a lot of issues touring Pittsburgh. It’s sad because it’s such a friendly, beautiful city. I do well here but now well enough that I’d stop here if I didn’t need to be here anyway, if that makes any sense. They literally want you to invite a complete stranger to your place of residence for a cheap rate, that kind of risk for low return is not going to draw the best of the best....

bambino · 03-20-2021, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MorganOBM

When I was the SB type I was seeing more men than when I was escorting lmao. I finally gave up and put up an ad. Does it make you feel better?

Well providers are only going to be as good as the hobbyists. I’d say for local talent you guys have it really good. I’m not being a smart ass but girls aren’t going to flock to a town where the main objective is to get in and out in 10 minutes. I don’t know many girls in the biz anymore but I do chat with a lot of super hot touring providers (references) and they have a lot of issues touring Pittsburgh. It’s sad because it’s such a friendly, beautiful city. I do well here but now well enough that I’d stop here if I didn’t need to be here anyway, if that makes any sense. They literally want you to invite a complete stranger to your place of residence for a cheap rate, that kind of risk for low return is not going to draw the best of the best....

Seems like touring girls are coming here. I just received a PM from one. She’s a hottie too. And I’ve been banned for 3 months. Go figure. But this 1//2hr thing has been debated for years. Who cares? It’s up to adults to determine what they want. I make my own decisions. I don’t impose them on others. I ask in advance., If a guy wants 30 minutes fine. He should find a lady who provides it. Both are happy. It’s not a big deal. Life’s about choices. Whatever makes you happy. It’s not that difficult.

MorganOBM · 03-20-2021, 08:34 PM

I’m free to ask why without your bitching Bam

you probably schedule 30 minutes because you are elderly and out of breath in 10 minutes. An hour would put you in the grave

Depurefymii · 03-21-2021, 12:10 AM

If providers are only as good as the hobbyists and I don't have enough power to fight the selection pressure and drive the market in the direction I want it to, I don't know what I can do.

What I like are Dark Fetish Rituals, but I can only budget once a month at best. I can't compete with the Pittsburgh rat chasers.

It looks like my options are to start a cult, move somewhere with options, or fantasize stronger.

Starting a cult would be hard for me because I don't take even my own religion seriously, I'll be excommunicated. Move somewhere else, where? Occultists / Tantrists are famous for their low population density everywhere. I think fantasizing stronger probably means going pro artistically, but there are barely any pro artists, so that means I would have to do something else to subsidize the art.