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Originally Posted by Tiny
Baloney. Trump and his merry band of RHINOs were never going to upend Democracy in the United States of America. The military, the Justice Department, and true Republicans like Mike Pence, Brad Raffensperger, Rusty Bowers, Brian Kemp and the "alternate" Pennsylvania electors never would have let him steal the election. Not to mention ordinary Americans, many of whom would have been rioting in the streets.
The Republicans pushing for the January, 2024 court date are wise. Better to get it over with quickly. The powers that be could have started these legal actions over a year ago. Instead, they chose a timeline that would have everything coming to a head along the time of the 2024 general election. That in turn will fire up Democrats like they've never been fired up before. They'll vote in massive numbers, outperforming the polls. And the United States may become a one party state, at the federal level, if Republicans continue to hitch themselves to the Trump Train.
Judge Luttig is correct. Barrack Obama, Donald Trump, and Joe Biden were very divisive presidents. They've pulled America apart at the seems.
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i'm impressed. i can't recall watching a so-called legal expert like Luttig be completely right in one sentence then be completely wrong in the next. most impressive!
let's just focus on what he got completely wrong and why. his contention that Trump incited a insurrection is nonsense. and he should know that. there is nothing in Trump's Jan 6th speech that can even remotely be considered "inciting the overthrow of the Government".
NONSENSE! this person knows or should know that Trump very well could have said ..
"Go burn down the Capitol!!"
which of course we all know Trump never said any such thing. he actually said "peacefully protest". not once did Trump say anything that would or could be considered "inciting an insurrection".
Trump shouldn't even be charged for what happened on Jan 6th and Luttig knows why.
Brandenburg v Ohio
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio
it's disingenuous for a person who was a judge and twice considered for the Supreme Court not to know Brandenburg v Ohio and what that ruling means. he knows perfectly well what the ruling means.
Luttig is a "Never Trumper" conservative and every word he says about Jan 6th and Trump is tainted by this fact.
even the FBI doesn't consider Jan 6th an insurrection now. because it wasn't.
it was nothing more than a rabble that started a riot.
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Originally Posted by VitaMan
The damage Trump has done to the democratic process around the world is incalculable.
The images of the US Capitol riot on Jan 6 have been shown around the world...with Trump urging them on.
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just another riot what's the big deal?