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Old 01-07-2013, 10:23 PM   #16
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If the economy treads water for 8 years, then we are no better than Japan in the 1990s. Obama cannot leave office lie that and be considered a success.

The clock is running.
If?

Are you blind? We had a huge housing bubble, we will be lucky to tread water for the next four years. It will take at least that long to work that sum through the system. And And And...nothing has really been done to change the current system.It will just happen again and again and again
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Old 01-08-2013, 06:03 AM   #17
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I agree, Bush is a "slimeball."
Totally agree. The massive debt we have is because of the spending of the Republicans and Bush in his first 6 years in office, then two wars and a couple of stock market crashes thanks to their policies.
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Old 01-08-2013, 08:11 AM   #18
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Even I will agree with that. Problem is, Obama is making the problem worse, not better.
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Old 01-08-2013, 08:19 AM   #19
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Default QUOTE OF OBAMA'S LOST DECADE...

"we are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.."

Barack Hussein Obama.

This quote was prescient....it was a clear communication of the radical ideas that Obama intended to govern by. America is now in her lost decade because of his re-election. The middle class will be destroyed by Obama and his agenda of transformation.
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Old 01-08-2013, 08:46 AM   #20
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Totally agree. The massive debt we have is because of the spending of the Republicans and Bush in his first 6 years in office, then two wars and a couple of stock market crashes thanks to their policies.
BigLouie, you certainly hit upon part of the problem. George W. Bush was one of the two most fiscally irresponsible presidents in history.

But guess who the other one is. I suppose you think it was perfectly OK for Obama, with cooperation from Pelosi's complaisant congress, to lard up the budget much further in FY2009? And to what end?

Obama obviously owes his 2008 victory to the myraid failures of Republicans over the previous half-dozen years. But the electorate "hired" him to fix things, not just continue with more of the same while adding new deficit spending and other problems of his own.

"Those guys spent like drunken sailors on shore leave. It's just terrible! We can do much better than that. We can spend like drunken SMU trust fund brats!"
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Old 01-08-2013, 09:13 AM   #21
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Default republicans were suckered on the sequester

there is just a fundamental difference in mindset and world-view and what constitutes good and evil between obama and his ilk and conservatives

according to obama, we dont have a spending problem, we have a tax problem
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YEP....and here is the quote:
Obama to Boehner: "We Don't Have a Spending Problem"
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybens...oblem-n1483016

Amazing isn't it ???????????

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there is just a fundamental difference in mindset and world-view and good and evil between obama and his ilk and conservatives

according to obama, we dont have a spending problem, we have a tax problem
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Old 01-08-2013, 09:27 AM   #23
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Obama to Boehner: "We Don't Have a Spending Problem"

He's got that down.
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Good for him. Bush fucked the world. And you assholes supported him while he did it.

Now you're trying everything you can try to shift the stench to Obama.

Sorry, you sanctimonious dipshits. OWN THIS!
Bush was and still is a decietful thug. So what should Obama do? Fight to reverse the damage that asshole caused or keep blaming him so you and guys like you can feel better.
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Obama should fight to reverse the damage. Problem is, he is making the damage worse. Dammit!
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Bush was and still is a decietful thug. So what should Obama do? Fight to reverse the damage that asshole caused or keep blaming him so you and guys like you can feel better.
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Is your dick longer than your memory?

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/was...paign-strategy

Ryan Rudominer, spokesman for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee adds: "In his 1984 convention address, Republicans' hero Ronald Reagan blamed Democrats for everything under the sun despite their having the White House for only four of the previous 16 years. Just as Ronald Reagan made that race a choice in a tough economy four years into his presidency, House Democrats are aggressively defining the choice for voters in 2010 about the dangers of going back to Bush."
Will it work? Reagan biographer Craig Shirley doesn't think so. "Reagan was arguing for continuing the good times. Obama will be arguing for continuing the bad times," he says.
But pollster John Zogby sees a win. "The Democrats can indeed use the 1984 Reagan. Reagan's numbers during and after the 1982 recession were very low, and he did lose seats. But the 1984 Democrats had nothing new to say. They were still a party of interests and dominated more by their social activists, and Reagan could indeed run on results and change," he says.
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He wasn't blaming Carter, he was blaming the House Democrats.
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He wasn't blaming Carter, he was blaming the House Democrats.
Read the article and do some research before commenting next time you senile old SOB...


"In 1984, Reagan was still blaming Jimmy Carter and it worked," says a Democratic leadership aide. "We'll not just blame [Bush] but point out that the best indication of what they'll do is what they've done."
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Old 01-08-2013, 09:23 PM   #30
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"The problems we inherited were far worse than most inside and out of government had expected; the recession was deeper than most inside and out of government had predicted. Curing those problems has taken more time and a higher toll than any of us wanted."


Reagan's 1983 State of the Union:
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