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Old 11-02-2021, 03:59 PM   #16
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What good is making more money when bills are through the roof. Winter isn’t even here yet, I predict lots more Let’s Go Brandon when everybody’s heating bill doubles.
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Old 11-02-2021, 05:51 PM   #17
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And the Fed keeps buying the bonds. Quantitative easing.
Just a variation of printing more money.
This inflation crap is here for a few years. Nobody will quote my guys prices of aluminium and steel truckloads more than 4 months out.
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Old 11-02-2021, 06:24 PM   #18
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To quote Barack Obama...I got the economy going into the right direction for Trump. So....Trump got the economy going in the right direction for Biden though Biden has done his best to slow it all down. I guess the question is, how much does inflation detract from the stock market overall?
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Old 11-02-2021, 08:09 PM   #19
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Over $1 TRILLION at risk if China delists from US markets en masse (Asia Financial)

Around 248 Chinese companies listed on US exchanges will be forced to delist in about three years if they do not comply with audit norms Congress has ordered the SEC to enforce.

It's unlikely Beijing will bend to DC's will. Chinese companies have been prohibited from complying with US audit requests since July, Asian Financial reports.

US investors hold around $1.1 trillion in Chinese stocks and around $100 billion in debt instruments. Mutual investments are totaled to as much as $3.3 trillion, as of the end of 2020.

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Old 11-02-2021, 09:34 PM   #20
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Of course the usual naysayers will chime in on how the economy is falling apart under this administration.


It is falling apart, why else would Democrats and Independents start to abandon Joe Biden? They are either gullible rubes falling for a "right wind conspiracy" play or they are starting to see who they voted for and they don't like what they see.


As to your statement. Wanna make sure I do that. I'm did a search and asked "is the stock market the economy or vice versa"? And you know what I got back? I'll post it here but I think you are the one that keeps telling how dangerous it is to click on "any link from anybody" so I'll tell you what literally every comment from EVERYBODY says, "No, the stock market is not the economy and the economy is not the stock market".



I'm pretty damn sure I heard Joe Biden say but since it doesn't appear in a Google search, it must not exist but I know he said it.


You do know the "market" includes people who thrive and make money on losing. "The market, bless their hearts, knows how to "make money" in ways that the average working man, I include myself in that category, don't. Well, I do a little since my 401k is returning me at a rate of 24% for at least the last year, probably more.



It is entirely possible that in this instance, both can be true and can be reasonably understood as to why if only one had bothered to GOOGLE "is the stock market and the economy the same thing" and waiting for a "consensus" before jumping on the k-board, might know.





https://www.google.com/search?client...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
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Old 11-02-2021, 09:39 PM   #21
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Not even one sensible reply. Dow Jones near record highs. A real fact.
Must be ALL those accomplishments that BRANDON has done...but you refuse to tell us about...
The us about the coattails of BRANDON the Virginia followed??
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Old 11-02-2021, 09:43 PM   #22
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It is falling apart, why else would Democrats and Independents start to abandon Joe Biden? They are either gullible rubes falling for a "right wind conspiracy" play or they are starting to see who they voted for and they don't like what they see.


As to your statement. Wanna make sure I do that. I'm did a search and asked "is the stock market the economy or vice versa"? And you know what I got back? I'll post it here but I think you are the one that keeps telling how dangerous it is to click on "any link from anybody" so I'll tell you what literally every comment from EVERYBODY says, "No, the stock market is not the economy and the economy is not the stock market".



I'm pretty damn sure I heard Joe Biden say but since it doesn't appear in a Google search, it must not exist but I know he said it.


You do know the "market" includes people who thrive and make money on losing. "The market, bless their hearts, knows how to "make money" in ways that the average working man, I include myself in that category, don't. Well, I do a little since my 401k is returning me at a rate of 24% for at least the last year, probably more.



It is entirely possible that in this instance, both can be true and can be reasonably understood as to why if only one had bothered to GOOGLE "is the stock market and the economy the same thing" and waiting for a "consensus" before jumping on the k-board, might know.





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He's just a simp for BRANDON...I'm still waiting on him to tell us JUST ONE accomplishment of his...AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN.
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Old 11-02-2021, 10:14 PM   #23
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At one point the two piss plodders would say that the stock market is no indication of a good economy and that only retarded, uneducated, white supremacist trump supporters would think so
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Good point. Stocks skyrocketed in places like Venezuela and Zimbabwe when hyperinflation hit, although hopefully we'll never go there.

When one year T-bills yield 0.14% and inflation is 5.4%, like now, what are you going to do with your money? If you sit still you lose 5.26% per year. So you invest in stocks. But what if inflation isn't transitory? What if the Fed has to raise interest rates to 7%? Well it becomes harder to justify high P/E multiples for stocks. So maybe share prices go down. Time will tell.
The Fed will never raise it that high again
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Old 11-03-2021, 06:53 AM   #25
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Good point. Stocks skyrocketed in places like Venezuela and Zimbabwe when hyperinflation hit, although hopefully we'll never go there.

When one year T-bills yield 0.14% and inflation is 5.4%, like now, what are you going to do with your money? If you sit still you lose 5.26% per year. So you invest in stocks. But what if inflation isn't transitory? What if the Fed has to raise interest rates to 7%? Well it becomes harder to justify high P/E multiples for stocks. So maybe share prices go down. Time will tell.
the fed is supposed to be dialing back their monthly bond and mortgage backed securities purchases of 120 billion per month

they have announced a "tapering" of 15 billion per month

when that starts interest rates would seemingly rise

the interest rate rise is meant to temper inflation although the fed doesn't like to say stuff like that

where rates will wind up no one knows as the economy , the supply chain, any furthering of our sino conflict and the chaos of dimocrat rule all exacerbate the fears that cause inflation

and then the fed is at the mercy of fear
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Must be ALL those accomplishments that BRANDON has done...but you refuse to tell us about...
The us about the coattails of BRANDON the Virginia followed??

You don't even realize the accomplishment of the Dow Jones reaching record highs.



The Trump administration took credit every chance they could. Now the Biden administration has trumped them.
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Old 11-03-2021, 09:21 AM   #27
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After All - vm
It is All 'Trump's Fault"!
your very own final fall-back excuse for everything fiden adn your democraticommunist party screw UP

LOL

Sad - such indoctrinated foolishness from teh democraticommunist minions.
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Old 11-03-2021, 09:23 AM   #28
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Market always gets better , When everything cost more ,Just ask the fed ,, This is startin to look like 1913 ,the fed private bankers running the show hmm
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Old 11-03-2021, 09:55 AM   #29
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You don't even realize the accomplishment of the Dow Jones reaching record highs.



The Trump administration took credit every chance they could. Now the Biden administration has trumped them.

Point to a single thing that would indicate that the markets are rising due to a Biden policy?



Could it be the announcement on day one that America would no longer pursue our own energy initiatives in favor of going hat in hand BACK to Saudi Arabia, pleading them to produce more of that "cleaner burning fossil fuel" and costing us more money to import what we already have in the ground? And FYI, our oil burns as well if not better than Saudi and Russian oil. FYI less consumption might do what Democrats want done but swapping the same amount of use but buying it from Saudi and Russia and not using our own is the highest degree of stupidity that can be reached.

Could it be Biden's disastrous pull out of Afghanistan which prompted the British Parliament to rise and condemn an American President for his actions without full consultation with our allies? Could that be why the markets are rising or could it be that "the markets" see opportunity in chaos which is exactly what Biden and company have brought.


Look at the polls, open your eyes. Nothing now happening in the markets has anything to do with what Joe Biden is doing and if the elections last night doesn't open your eyes to this, I don't know what will.


Biden "the markets have nothing to do with the economy". Of course they do to some degree, but the economy and markets don't always sink up. There has to be a reason why markets are rising in what looks like a disastrous economic future for America.


Let's go Brandon
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Point to a single thing that would indicate that the markets are rising due to a Biden policy?



Could it be the announcement on day one that America would no longer pursue our own energy initiatives in favor of going hat in hand BACK to Saudi Arabia, pleading them to produce more of that "cleaner burning fossil fuel" and costing us more money to import what we already have in the ground? And FYI, our oil burns as well if not better than Saudi and Russian oil?
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actually the anti energy policies of biden did cause a segment of the stock market to rise

the oil and gas producers

with the price of oil and natural gas skyrocketing the stock prices of producers did go up

but it was at a high cost to americans

and then gets tangled in the general inflation that causes higher stock prices for a time
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