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01-07-2023, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX
No one "allowed" the Russians to invade Ukraine. Maybe, just maybe, if Trump had stood up to Putin instead of kissing his ass at every turn, Putin would not have been so emboldened to invade the Ukraine.
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That is a total lie that Democrats keep telling. Trump actually kept Putin in check by expanding fossil fuel output of the United States and providing Europe another source of energy than getting it from Russia.
But Democrats don't like to look at facts that contradict their big lie.
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01-07-2023, 07:52 AM
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Voted Libertarian, so no. As for policy, singularly, a much more conservative approach to spending and taxation.
Seems clear to me that we will go the way of failed and authoritarian governments if we do not negotiate our politics with at least some boundaries of moral respect for our institutions, allies and humanity. Trump's "courage" to take on sensitive issues, IMHO, over time revealed he is a one trick pony with "Asshole Tactics" that clearly are a strong negotiating tool and have personally served him well in business.
Issues in the next election to include consideration of the costs of these political tactics. Treating immigrants harshly
publicly strong arming allies for political gain
Inflaming racial tensions
Misusing power for personal gain
Denying anything that conflicts with your agenda
Personally, a swing somewhere back to the middle that incorporates some of Trumps red power to get things done at any cost with a more; nuanced, respectful, humane and collaborative use of power. Democracy and and capitalism are powers that this country helped show the world. Our political system is revealing that we are failing at harnessing and channeling those powers in anything but a short term way.
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01-07-2023, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by farmstud60
That is a total lie that Democrats keep telling. Trump actually kept Putin in check by expanding fossil fuel output of the United States and providing Europe another source of energy than getting it from Russia.
But Democrats don't like to look at facts that contradict their big lie.
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Trump talked softly but wielded a big stick, that was his foreign policy approach. For example, while other Presidents hid behind foot thick bulletproof glass, Trump strolled across the 38th parallel like it was a walk in Central Park. Dems and their surrogates like to hold on to words and ignore actions, Trump’s actions were FAR tougher on our adversaries. Plus, he was seen as a little crazy, and certainly unpredictable, which caused people to think twice about pissing off the US. All our current, weak leadership does is embolden hostile actors. Putin would’ve never gone on offense (like he did with Bush, Obama, and now Biden) with Trump in office, in fear of having a JDAM parked in his living room.
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01-07-2023, 10:01 AM
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Policy and its implimentation is what counts. Good hair, personality, wit and charm (or the lack thereof) does not get the job done.
During the previous administration, the unflex of illegal aliens was unacceptable, but being managed at a fraction of the cost now being proposed. And it looks as though that money will be spent to streamline and facilitate the continued influx of illegals into the nation's interior.
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01-07-2023, 10:08 AM
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The influx could be stopped, for a pittance, overnight with the correct reaction to those who disrespect our borders.
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01-07-2023, 12:09 PM
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The influx could be stopped, for a pittance, overnight with the correct reaction to those who disrespect our borders.
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That may be . . . but a significant change in policy and emphatically implementing that change would also work. . . . it did before.
Stop the violins.
Imagine whirled peas.
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01-07-2023, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by farmstud60
That is a total lie that Democrats keep telling. Trump actually kept Putin in check by expanding fossil fuel output of the United States and providing Europe another source of energy than getting it from Russia.
But Democrats don't like to look at facts that contradict their big lie.
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Total BS.
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01-07-2023, 02:01 PM
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Putin didn't invade Ukraine during Trump's administration. But Putin is invading Ukraine during Biden's administration. Furthermore Biden has been funneling money and equipment to Ukraine, in essence America is fighting Russia via Ukraine.
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Pure speculation on your part. Yes, the U.S. and many other countries are aiding the Ukraine with money and equipment.
Do you object to the aid?
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01-07-2023, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jacuzzme
Trump talked softly but wielded a big stick, that was his foreign policy approach. For example, while other Presidents hid behind foot thick bulletproof glass, Trump strolled across the 38th parallel like it was a walk in Central Park. Dems and their surrogates like to hold on to words and ignore actions, Trump’s actions were FAR tougher on our adversaries. Plus, he was seen as a little crazy, and certainly unpredictable, which caused people to think twice about pissing off the US. All our current, weak leadership does is embolden hostile actors. Putin would’ve never gone on offense (like he did with Bush, Obama, and now Biden) with Trump in office,
in fear of having a JDAM parked in his living room.
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Most experts in foreign affairs considered Trump to be a failure in his 4 years in office. He talked big and accomplished little.
Trump’s Final Foreign-Policy Report Card
A look back at four years of big ambitions, a handful of successes—and many more failures.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/01/05...y-report-card/
Trump Ratings Remain Low Around Globe, While Views of U.S. Stay Mostly Favorable
Trump foreign policies receive little support
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2...tly-favorable/
Trump's foreign policy report card is full of failing grades
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ailing-grades/
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01-07-2023, 08:01 PM
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[QUOTE=SpeedRacerXXX;1063066645]Pure speculation on your part. Yes, the U.S. and many other countries are aiding the Ukraine with money and equipment.
Do you object to the aid?[/QUOTE]
You're dam right I object to it. The only reason why Biden is dipping into America's resources for Ukraine is because he's indebted to Ukraine for the deals he made with the Ukrainian Government for his stupid Son Hunter while he was VP. America has no reason to involve itself with Ukraine. Ukraine and Russia are two highly corrupt countries who wouldn't lift a finger for America if we were in a crisis. There is a method to this madness and it has nothing to do with any humanitarian effort.
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01-07-2023, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by farmstud60
That is a total lie that Democrats keep telling. Trump actually kept Putin in check by expanding fossil fuel output of the United States and providing Europe another source of energy than getting it from Russia.
But Democrats don't like to look at facts that contradict their big lie.
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The only "big lie" was Donald Chump's election fraud claims. Everything else IMO is just your typical political mudslinging bullshit.
Democrats lie. Republicans lie. What else is new in politics? Congress has become a soap opera now with all of the silly ass drama. Who needs "Days of Our Lives" when you can just watch C-Span?
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01-08-2023, 05:01 AM
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Total BS.
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Total truth, open your eyes, study history, get news from Commodity sources instead the DNC propaganda news of NBC and CNN.
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01-08-2023, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Lucas McCain
The only "big lie" was Donald Chump's election fraud claims. Everything else IMO is just your typical political mudslinging bullshit.
Democrats lie. Republicans lie. What else is new in politics? Congress has become a soap opera now with all of the silly ass drama. Who needs "Days of Our Lives" when you can just watch C-Span?
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While both parties lie, the press covers for Democrats.
C-span is almost worthless to watch as well as the politicians words are often so different from their actual actions.
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01-08-2023, 06:54 AM
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[QUOTE=Levianon17;1063066907]
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Pure speculation on your part. Yes, the U.S. and many other countries are aiding the Ukraine with money and equipment.
Do you object to the aid?[/QUOTE]
You're dam right I object to it. The only reason why Biden is dipping into America's resources for Ukraine is because he's indebted to Ukraine for the deals he made with the Ukrainian Government for his stupid Son Hunter while he was VP. America has no reason to involve itself with Ukraine. Ukraine and Russia are two highly corrupt countries who wouldn't lift a finger for America if we were in a crisis. There is a method to this madness and it has nothing to do with any humanitarian effort.
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There is absolutely no proof that Biden benefitted in any way from Hunter's involvement with the Ukraine. You keep making these ridiculous claims with zero proof.
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01-08-2023, 07:41 AM
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[QUOTE=SpeedRacerXXX;1063067105]
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Originally Posted by Levianon17
There is absolutely no proof that Biden benefitted in any way from Hunter's involvement with the Ukraine. You keep making these ridiculous claims with zero proof.
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I have proof, because I can see whats going on. That's all the proof I need. I don't rely on bogus Polls or bullshit articles from Liberal publications that claim everything is a Conspiracy.
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