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Old 03-01-2022, 06:47 PM   #16
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Mitch McConnell?

He has been as ardent a Trump Defender as there is.. In deed.

Right-Wing Qanoners seize on a couple of slight disagreements Mitch has voiced about Trump, and are ready to hang McConnell. Us against Them runs shallow in their circle.

you don't know shit about Mitch. i'm from Kentucky and every 6 years for decades now bumper stickers and signs come out like this ..





they haven't succeeded in ditching him yet. they never will . Mitch is a political opportunist .. he said it best in 2016 when he said about Trump .. "he won the RNC nomination because he got the most votes".


then he went against Trump after he left office.


mitch is almost as good at going with the political flow as Slick Willie Blythe and that's saying something


baahhahahahaaaaaaaa
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Mitch and his Commie wife will be strung up.

Trump said so
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Old 03-02-2022, 04:55 PM   #18
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You're full of vegemite. I don't know where you get your info from (since you're afraid to tell us) but it isn't accurate.

There is this;
Trump Did One Thing While in Office To ‘Drain the Swamp.’ He Just Revoked It.
No explanation was given for Trump’s decision to rescind the order, in the dying hours of his administration.
His critics always saw Donald Trump’s campaign promise to “drain the swamp” as little more than a catchy motto to help him win the 2016 election — and in the dying hours of his presidency, on Wednesday morning, he proved them right.

Moments after issuing 143 pardons and commutations to friends, allies, rappers, and corrupt lawmakers, Trump rescinded Executive Order 13770, which had banned appointees of the administration from lobbying the government for five years or ever working for foreign governments after they left their posts."

https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjpx...ust-revoked-it

And this;

How Trump abandoned his pledge to ‘drain the swamp’
‘The 45th President’: One in a series looking back at the Trump presidency

On a Friday evening in late September, President Trump huddled with high-dollar donors, lobbyists and corporate executives in a private room at the hotel he owns in Washington, where attendees took turns pitching the president on their pet issues.
Trump was there to raise big money for his reelection effort. The price of admission: as much as $100,000 per person to get in the door.
For his guests, it was a chance to make the most of what has emerged as a signature feature of Trump’s Washington: the ability of wealthy donors to directly lobby the president.
One talked to him about solar panels; another about business loans, according to two people who participated and, like others interviewed for this report, spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private interactions. At least one guest was told by Trump to follow up with White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, conveniently seated nearby.
One attendee’s plea on behalf of an obscure railway project in Alaska in need of federal approval appeared to get immediate results.
Just after midnight, mere hours after the campaign fundraiser,Trump tweetedthat it was his “honor to inform you that I will be issuing a Presidential Permit for the A2A Cross-Border rail.”
“Congratulations to the people of Alaska & Canada!” he added, noting that the state’s congressional delegation was supportive of the move.The presidential permitwas officially issued three days later.
Trump’s rapid action after the Sept.25 fundraiser — one of dozens of high-dollar donor events he has headlined while in office — emblemizes how much he has abandoned his 2016 pledge to “DRAIN THE SWAMP.”
In the closing weeks of that election, Trump led cheering supporters in chants of that slogan, promising that he would completely disrupt the culture of Washington. He warned of the power of lobbyists and political donors who he said effectively bought off elected officials. He told voters he was uniquely prepared to take on the issue, because he knew personally as a contributor how the system worked.
“When you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do,” he told the Wall Street Journalin 2015.
But during his four years in office, Trump has taken few steps to clean up Washington. He has instead presided over a norm-shattering expansion of private interests in government.
The government has had to spend money at Trump’s private hotels as his family has traveled around the globe. Trump sidestepped rules that had been designed to prevent nepotism, allowing his son-in-law to serve in a top government role. He has touted companies run by supporters and allies who received government contracts. His administration has allowed former lobbyists to serve in jobs in which they have oversight of policies that affect their former employers.
Among the five pledges Trump made to “drain the swamp” and curtail the influence of lobbyists in a major campaign speech in October 2016, a Washington Post review found that he sought to address only two, through an executive order in January 2017 — which contained a major loophole.
Craig Holman, a lobbyist for the government watchdog group Public Citizen, had initially expressed cautious optimism about Trump’s ethics pledge in 2017. He now says the president has worsened Washington’s profiteering culture in nearly every way.
“The whole administration has taken Trump’s tone — self-dealing, self-enriching, enriching your friends and families — that’s smart, if you listen to Trump,” he said.
Judd Deere, a White House spokesman, said in a statement that the president has followed through on his promises, casting “the swamp” as those who have opposed Trump’s agenda.
“President Trump has fought tirelessly in his effort to make Washington accountable to the American people — that can be seen not only in his government ethics reforms, but also in his push to drain the swamp of its tired, failed, recycled ideas, such as working to end endless wars, tearing up disastrous trade deals that shipped our jobs overseas, rolling back burdensome regulations and expediting permit approvals, and putting an end to uncontrolled immigration,” he said. “And that is why the Swamp has fought so hard against this President every step of the way.”
Rich contributors have long had access to elected officials in Washington, but as president, Trump has dropped any pretense that they should not be afforded special treatment.
Donors and others seeking access appear routinely at his private clubs in Florida and New Jersey, where they have buttonholed the president on the patio or golf course.
The ability of outside favor-seekers to influence Trump has at times worried administration officials. A group of Mar-a-Lago members sought to shape the direction of the Department of Veterans Affairs, as the former VA secretary detailed in a book. Donors attending fundraisers at his Bedminister club weighed in on the GOP tax bill, according to people familiar with internal discussions.
Meanwhile, lobbying firms that can claim access to Trump’s inner circle have thrived.
Barry Bennett, a 2016 Trump campaign adviser and lobbyist for foreign interests, said business for him was booming before the corona virus pandemic.
The president’s attacks on the swamp have been effective in one way, he said: “To the extent that Washington is less popular, and people are more angry at their government, that’s been the effect of the Trump presidency.”
'I know the system'
When Trump launched his presidential bid, he distinguished himself from rivals for the Republican nomination by saying he would fund his own campaign, eschewing the support of donors who he said corrupted the political system by seeking favors in exchange for their contributions. The argument proved powerful with voters.
“I will say this — [the] people [who] control special interests, lobbyists, donors, they make large contributions to politicians and they have total control over those politicians,” he said at a Republican primary debate in March 2016. “And frankly, I know the system better than anybody else and I’m the only one up here that’s going to be able to fix that system, because that system is wrong.”
He likewise termed super PACs, which can accept unlimited amounts of money, a “disaster.” “They’re a scam,” he said at a debate in October 2015. “They cause dishonesty.”
Trump unveiled the phrase “drain the swamp” in a speech in Green Bay, Wis.,in October 2016, wielding it as a weapon against Democrat Hillary Clinton, who was benefiting from a network of wealthy donors that she and former president Bill Clinton had cultivated over four decades.
“There were a lot of Democrats that Trump may not have beaten with that message,” said Charles R. Black Jr., who has worked as a Republican lobbyist and consultant for nearly five decades. “The message worked — but it worked especially because of who she was.”
It was quickly a hit with Trump’s most enthusiastic supporters, entering the lexicon of call-and-response cries at his signature rallies. It remains one of the most popular chants and resonant messages, campaign aides say.
“We’re going to go to Washington. We’re going to drain the swamp,” Trump said at a North Carolina rally in 2016. As the crowd picked up the chant — “Drain the swamp! Drain the swamp!” — Trump explained that when he first heard the phrase, he hated it. He thought it was “hokey.” But then he said he noticed how crowds responded.
“The place went crazy,” he said, adding: “Now I love the expression. I think it was genius.”
By then, Trump’s original promises to use his own wealth to power his campaign had crumbled.
He ultimately reported spending $66 million of his own money on his winning campaign, only a small portion of the more than $564 million he raised by the end of 2016. By July 2016, he began appearing at fundraisers for a super PAC supporting his election.
Trump made no pretense of self-funding his 2020 campaign.
Instead, he spent four years attending closed-door events for his wealthiest supporters, raising millions of dollars for his campaign and the America First super PAC.

Some of the country’s most powerful individuals have lent their properties for Trump’s gilded fundraising events, from the California hillside mega-mansion of Oracle founder Larry Ellison to the Hamptons beachfront palace of hedge fund manager John Paulson. The entry fee for some: as high as $580,600 a person, with much of the money flowing to the Republican National Committee, which as a party committee can accept large contributions. Many of the events are at Trump’s private clubs or hotels, where donors both contribute to his campaign and stay or dine at his properties.
Donors have gotten access not just to Trump at these events, but also to a range of senior Cabinet officials such as Labor Secretary Eugene Scalia, Interior Secretary David Bernhardt and Trump advisers such as Peter Navarro, Kellyanne Conway, Bill Stepien and Corey Lewandowski, invitations show.
Donor pitches
While his predecessors typically kept their remarks at donor events short and scripted, Trump speaks loosely and profanely — even discussing sensitive military operations and vulgarly describing political foes.
“It’s like a rally speech, but with a lot more swearing,” one regular attendee said.
At a campaign fundraiser held Thursday at the JW Marriott in Nashville, one donor made a point of praising Trump for his work draining Washington’s swamp, according to an attendee.
“I had no idea how deep it was. I had no idea how mean it was,” Trump responded, speaking to a crowd of supporters who had paid as much as $250,000 to be in the room.
Among those in attendance at the Sept.25 event at Trump’s hotel in Washington was Mead Treadwell, a former lieutenant governor of Alaska and vice chair of Alaska-Alberta Railway Development Corp., the company attempting to build a 1,600-mile railway to link a port in Anchorage to Canada. It requires federal approval because it would cross the border.
The project is still in its early phases, but company officials have said having the permit in hand will be key to raising additional money and moving forward.
Treadwell said he spoke to Trump at the event about the project’s potential benefits to Alaska. He said the company had lobbied for the White House to take over the approval process from the State Department, where it had previously resided. The White House agreed in February and the issue was fully briefed for White House lawyers five or six months ago, he said. Then the company waited.
Treadwell attended as a guest of the fiancee of the railway company’s chairman, he said. He said his comments were brief, thanking Trump for considering the project — and the White House for taking it over.
Treadwell noted that Alaska’s governor and congressional delegation back the project and had been lobbying the White House for the approval, and that he believed their input was what probably spurred the president.
Sen. Dan Sullivan (R-Alaska) also spoke to Trump on the day of the fundraiser, presenting a one-page memo explaining the proposal and telling the president that the rest of the delegation supported it, according to a person with knowledge of their conversation. Sullivan did not respond to a request for comment.
Still, Treadwell said, the tweet was surprising.
“I can’t tell you how or why the White House made the decision when they did,” he said. “All I can say is, we’ve had a long series of consultations on this.”
He added: “I don’t think there was any quid pro quo.”
A White House official said the project has state support, the permit had already gone through a review process and its approval was unrelated to the fundraiser.
The ability of high-dollar donors to shape Trump’s views was put into sharp relief earlier this year, when one time Trump supporter Lev Parnas released recordings of events.
In the recordings, one donor could be heard proposing the president hold a summit meeting with Kim Jong Un, the leader of North Korea, at a South Korean golf course he owned. Another donor, who owns a Canadian steel company, pushed Trump to limit steel imports to the United States.
‘Once this is over, we’ll be kings’: How Lev Parnas worked his way into Trump’s world — and now is rattling it
Parnas and his business partner Igor Fruman, who were working with Trump lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani, urged the president to recall the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, whom they viewed as unfriendly to interests of a new natural gas company they had formed.
“Get rid of her! Get her out tomorrow. I don’t care. Get her out tomorrow,” Trump could be heard immediately instructing an aide after the two made the request.

Parnas, now a sharp critic of Trump, has been charged with campaign finance violations and defrauding investors in his company. He has denied wrongdoing. Parnas said it was widely understood by donors that they were paying for face time with Trump.
“Everyone knew that about Trump — all it took was that one minute, if he liked it,” he said. “It was okay to spend a million dollars on a dinner. Because that dinner could make your whole life.”
A lobbying loophole
It was eight days after Trump’s inauguration, and he was sitting in the Oval Office surrounded by top aides such as then-White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, issuing one of his first executive orders. The presidential directive addressed one of his major “drain the swamp” planks: a promise to curb lobbyists.
“Most of the people standing behind me will not be able to go to work” after they leave government, Trump said.
The order addressed one of his campaign promises when it came to lobbying: It required senior executive branch officials to sign a pledge that they will never in their lifetime work as registered foreign lobbyists.
But when it came to lobbying overall, the order had a loophole: It prohibited former executive branch appointees only from lobbying the agencies where they had served, not the government overall.
Overall, Trump has largely failed to fulfill the pledges he made in his Green Bay “drain the swamp” speech. He had promised he would push Congress to pass a five-year lobbying ban into law so it could not be lifted by a future president. But he never proposed such legislation. Nor did he ask Congress to impose a similar five-year lobbying ban on its members, as he had promised he would in 2016.
In addition, he never tried to seek to “close all the loopholes” used by former government officials who get around registering as lobbyists by calling themselves “consultants” and “advisers.” And he never acted on his pledge to stop foreign lobbyists from campaign fundraising — and in fact, has benefited from their financial support.

As his promises to curtail lobbying have faded, Trump allies who can offer insight to private interests have flourished.
“People who know how Washington and the administration works, those people are always going to be valuable,” Bennett said.
Priebus, for example, has been paid up to six figures for private speeches to describe Trump’s decision-making process, according to people with knowledge of the speeches. Priebus declined to comment.
Other Trump allies have worked as traditional lobbyists.
Take David Urban, a Trump campaign adviser in 2016 and 2020, who has counseled the president on senior personnel matters and politics, often in weekend phone calls, and has regularly flown on Air Force One.
His lobbying clientele in the Trump era has included a range of companies with interests before the government, including the weapons giant Raytheon, T-Mobile and By teDance, the parent company of mobile app TikTok, which was targeted by the Trump administration.
Urban did not respond to requests for comment. He recently went to work for ByteDance full time.
Former New Jersey governor Chris Christie, a longtime adviser who served as Trump’s coach before this fall’s presidential debates, has earned nearly $200,000 lobbying for the Puerto Rican power authority this year, as well as for health systems that were seeking coronavirus-related government funding and a shipping conglomerate, according to lobbying records.
Trump has long railed against Puerto Rico but decided earlier this year to grant the territory nearly $13 billion in aid.
In an interview, Christie said he had only personally lobbied the president once — on behalf of a legal client, who was given a pardon last year. He said he had never lobbied the president for business clients but deals with White House and agency officials.
Christie said he had “no idea” if his advocacy on Puerto Rico led Trump to agree and grant the country aid this fall, partially for the grid: “He has never told me that directly.”
Backed by foreign lobbyists
Perhaps one of the most successful figures in the Trump lobbying era has been Brian Ballard, who got his start with Trump lobbying for his company in Florida.
In the past four years, he has lobbied the federal government on behalf of dozens of clients, including private prison company Geo Group, which in 2017 moved its annual leadership conference to a Trump-owned property, as well as Uber and Amazon, public records show.
According to tallies by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, Ballard’s firm has earned $58.8 million in lobbying fees since 2017.
Ballard has made so much money that Trump aides have complained he has too much access to the president and his administration, according to three officials.
In a statement, Ballard said he “has thrived by building an exceptionally talented and bipartisan team that has followed the same tradition of effective, ethical representation that we have long-established in Florida.”
After 20 years in Florida, he said he had opened an office in Washington “at the direct request of many of our Florida clients.” The expansion of his lobbying business came, he wrote, in 2017 — the same year Trump took office.
Among those who have sought his help are a number of foreign governments, including Albania, Azerbaijan, the Dominican Republic, Kosovo, the Maldives, Mali, Turkey, Qatar and Zimbabwe, records show.
Despite his ties to foreign countries, he has played a lead role in the president’s fundraising operation as finance vice chairman of the Republican National Committee, helping raise millions for Trump’s reelection. Two of his employees, former Florida attorney general Pam Bondi and Susie Wiles, have worked for the president’s political operation. Bondi has gone from working as a Ballard employee to a White House lawyer, back to a Ballard employee and campaign adviser.
Ballard’s fundraising efforts are exactly the kind of activities that Trump promised to stamp out in 2016.
In his Green Bay speech, Trump claimed of Clinton that “her international donors control her every move.”
“I am going to ask Congress to pass a campaign-finance reform that prevents registered foreign lobbyists from raising money in American elections,” he said at the time.
But once in office, Trump never proposed to Congress any sort of campaign finance overhaul — much less legislation that would bar foreign lobbyists from political fundraising.
Another prominent fundraiser for Trump’s reelection campaign, David Tamasi, has lobbied for the nation of Georgia and Kosovo’s Foreign Affairs Ministry. Tamasi declined to comment.
Meanwhile, some of the president’s top allies have been ensnared in investigations related to foreign lobbying.
Elliot Broidy who served as deputy finance chairman of the Republican National Committee in 2017, pleaded guilty Tuesday to acting as an unregistered foreign lobbyist for Malaysian and Chinese government interests.

Trump’s former campaign chairman Paul Manafort admitted to federal prosecutors that he failed to register as a lobbyist for a Ukrainian political party. So did Trump’s deputy campaign manager Rick Gates.
A senior White House official said that with his 2017 executive order, Trump accomplished all that is within his authority to curb lobbying, including instituting a five-year ban for former officials lobbying their former agencies and expanding the definition of lobbying.
However, government watchdog groups said the minimal lobbying restrictions that Trump put in place have done little to stop Washington’s revolving door culture.
Trump’s order prohibited appointees who had been lobbyists within two years before their appointment from participating in business related to topics of interest to their former clients for two years.
But a report compiled by Public Citizen in March 2018 — only 14months into the administration — found that 133 former lobbyists had been appointed to the Trump administration. They included 60 who had lobbied within two years of joining government and 35 of those former lobbyists were appointed to oversee the specific topics about which they had previously lobbied.
Last year, ProPublica found that at least 33 former Trump administration officials had found ways to essentially lobby after leaving government, despite the supposed five-year ban on such activities. Some styled themselves consultants and advisers — the kind of end run around the rules that Trump once railed against.
“It’s a meaningless piece of paper that was just put out to live up to the ‘drain the swamp’ promise,” Holman said of the executive order. “No one takes it seriously.”

Black, the veteran Washington lobbyist, said some agencies initially held lobbyists at arm’s length — agreeing to speak by phone and email, but not accepting meetings, for example.
But he said Trump was such an unknown quantity in Washington that it is not surprising that lobbyists who had relationships with him and top aides would benefit.
As for purging the city of special-interest influence, he said: “That’s probably a century-long project, if you wanted to take it on.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...f1a_story.html


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... G'day, Movers and Shakers

... So Bill Barr is out there with his-own new book,
a real page-turner where he surely bad-mouths
President Trump for being blue with Barr's
own laziness.

... Barr's "investigation" into the voter fraud
didn't happen - the FBi and DOJ told Barr that
they wouldn't co-operate. Bullshit. Where are you getting this shit?... So for him - that was that.

Same-way that Barr would NOT seek to prosecute
James Comey for pushing the FAKE dossier and
the bullshit "collusion" narrative.You don't have a clue. Barr misrepresented the Mueller Report in Trump's favor, big time. This was in Mar. of 2019, over a year and a half before Trump let him go.
Plus your uneducated ass doesn't even bring up the action Comey might have been prosecuted for.


Trump was voted-on to do exactly what He said
He'd do - "Drain the Swamp"... And Bill Barr,
like so many career "political" government agents
- WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH draining anything.

Trump surely told Barr then to "take a walk"
and Barr resigned the next day.

Just another "All Talk - No Cock" government "politician"
with NO backbone... Seeking approval of the liberal
"country club" crowd.

### Salty

Every claim you've made in your post has been debunked. Especially who benefitted from the "Trump" swamp.

Disputing Trump, Barr says no widespread election fraud

WASHINGTON (AP) — Disputing President Donald Trump’s persistent, baseless claims, Attorney General William Barr declared Tuesday the U.S. Justice Department has uncovered no evidence of widespread voter fraud that could change the outcome of the 2020 election.

Barr’s comments, in an interview with the The Associated Press, contradict the concerted effort by Trump, his boss, to subvert the results of last month’s voting and block President-elect Joe Biden from taking his place in the White House.

Barr told the AP that U.S. attorneys and FBI agents have been working to follow up specific complaints and information they’ve received, but “to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.”

The comments, which drew immediate criticism from Trump attorneys, were especially notable coming from Barr, who has been one of the president’s most ardent allies. Before the election, he had repeatedly raised the notion that mail-in voting could be especially vulnerable to fraud during the coronavirus pandemic as Americans feared going to polls and instead chose to vote by mail.

More to Trump’s liking, Barr revealed in the AP interview that in October he had appointed U.S. Attorney John Durham as a special counsel, giving the prosecutor the authority to continue to investigate the origins of the Trump-Russia probe after Biden takes over and making it difficult to fire him. Biden hasn’t said what he might do with the investigation, and his transition team didn’t comment Tuesday.

Trump has long railed against the investigation into whether his 2016 campaign was coordinating with Russia, but he and Republican allies had hoped the results would be delivered before the 2020 election and would help sway voters. So far, there has been only one criminal case, a guilty plea from a former FBI lawyer to a single false statement charge.

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Under federal regulations, a special counsel can be fired only by the attorney general and for specific reasons such as misconduct, dereliction of duty or conflict of interest. An attorney general must document such reasons in writing.

Barr went to the White House Tuesday for a previously scheduled meeting that lasted about three hours.

Trump didn’t directly comment on the attorney general’s remarks on the election. But his personal attorney Rudy Giuliani and his political campaign issued a scathing statement claiming that, “with all due respect to the Attorney General, there hasn’t been any semblance” of an investigation into the president’s complaints.
Other administration officials who have come out forcefully against Trump’s allegations of voter-fraud evidence have been fired. But it’s not clear whether Barr might suffer the same fate. He maintains a lofty position with Trump, and despite their differences the two see eye-to-eye on quite a lot.

Still, Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer quipped: “I guess he’s the next one to be fired.”

Last month, Barr issued a directive to U.S. attorneys across the country allowing them to pursue any “substantial allegations” of voting irregularities before the 2020 presidential election was certified, despite no evidence at that time of widespread fraud.

That memorandum gave prosecutors the ability to go around longstanding Justice Department policy that normally would prohibit such overt actions before the election was certified. Soon after it was issued, the department’s top elections crime official announced he would step aside from that position because of the memo.

The Trump campaign team led by Giuliani has been alleging a widespread conspiracy by Democrats to dump millions of illegal votes into the system with no evidence. They have filed multiple lawsuits in battleground states alleging that partisan poll watchers didn’t have a clear enough view at polling sites in some locations and therefore something illegal must have happened. The claims have been repeatedly dismissed including by Republican judges who have ruled the suits lacked evidence.

But local Republicans in some battleground states have followed Trump in making unsupported claims, prompting grave concerns over potential damage to American democracy.

Trump himself continues to rail against the election in tweets and in interviews though his own administration has said the 2020 election was the most secure ever. He recently allowed his administration to begin the transition over to Biden, but he still refuses to admit he lost.

The issues they’ve have pointed to are typical in every election: Problems with signatures, secrecy envelopes and postal marks on mail-in ballots, as well as the potential for a small number of ballots miscast or lost.

But they’ve gone further. Attorney Sidney Powell has spun fictional tales of election systems flipping votes, German servers storing U.S. voting information and election software created in Venezuela “at the direction of Hugo Chavez,” – the late Venezuelan president who died in 2013. Powell has since been removed from the legal team after an interview she gave where she threatened to “blow up” Georgia with a “biblical” court filing.

Barr didn’t name Powell specifically but said: “There’s been one assertion that would be systemic fraud and that would be the claim that machines were programmed essentially to skew the election results. And the DHS and DOJ have looked into that, and so far, we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that.”

In the campaign statement, Giuliani claimed there was “ample evidence of illegal voting in at least six states, which they have not examined.”This article is from Dec. 2020. There still is no evidence to support these claims.

Full Coverage: Election 2020
“We have many witnesses swearing under oath they saw crimes being committed in connection with voter fraud. As far as we know, not a single one has been interviewed by the DOJ. The Justice Department also hasn’t audited any voting machines or used their subpoena powers to determine the truth,” he said.

However, Barr said earlier that people were confusing the use of the federal criminal justice system with allegations that should be made in civil lawsuits. He said a remedy for many complaints would be a top-down audit by state or local officials, not the U.S. Justice Department.

“There’s a growing tendency to use the criminal justice system as sort of a default fix-all,” he said, but first there must be a basis to believe there is a crime to investigate.

“Most claims of fraud are very particularized to a particular set of circumstances or actors or conduct. ... And those have been run down; they are being run down,” Barr said. “Some have been broad and potentially cover a few thousand votes. They have been followed up on.”

https://apnews.com/article/barr-no-w...1a9061a6c7f49d
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... Blimey! ... "Debunked" by the Washington Post - in a sad
opinion-piece, no less... ... And also by the AP.

Two bastions of truth and honesty.... And pushing the Steele dossier!

... Really, Skep? ... The Post and the AP??

Couldn't you at least surely find SOMETHING from
The New Yorker or the Huffington Post??

How Sad...

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In other words, you can't refute it. You're a liar, plain and simple.
I noticed you didn't supply your source or any information that backs your version. Your post proves your word is worthless.
If these sources were so unreliable, it would be easy to show examples of that claim. But you can't do that either. Come back when you can do more than sputter.
Just because Trumpys believe your unsupported bullshit doesn't mean anyone else does.
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Salty doesn’t post links, because he knows he can’t prove anything Tucker told him to think. He’s a sad case.
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Had anyone bet that the first response to that article would be to attack the MSM, they’d be big winners now.

Thanks, “mate,” for confirming your gross inability to defend the indefensible.
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Old 03-03-2022, 08:05 AM   #23
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Look at you sad loser lads here - pushing your phony lies
about Trump every day - Comey should have been prosecuted
himself for all the false claims about Trump and the Russians.
But no matter - FIRED off the job - like other corrupt agents
of the Democrat party...

Clapper and Brennan on CNN and MSNBC every odd-night telling America
that PROOF of "collusion" was coming any day now --- while in PRIVATE
there testifying that they saw or knew of NO COLLUSION between Trump and Russia. ... There's yer liberal honesty.

They HAVE the FBI and DOJ e-mails that SHOW that they KNEW
the dossier was PHONY when they were lying to the FISA court.

You phony lads ARE AWARE that Trump did NOT collude with Russia,
correct? ... Funny that NONE of you actually have to stones
and backbone to admit it.

Not so funny to we conservatives here... We surely understand
yer lack of truth and honesty... We see it every day as you
flail-about defending Sleepy Joe as he ruins the country.

So save yer phony outrage for next year - when the voter fraud
evidence is shown - when Repubs surely control Congress and
investigations won't be so easily wicked-away.

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... Sometimes they HIDE being part of The Swamp.

John McCain surely tryed to hide it.
Brett Kavanaugh not really tryin' to hide it.
Mitch McConnell and Mitt Romney CAN'T hide it. ...

#### Salty
John McCain seemed to be right about the Baltic States.

Trumps treaty to withdraw from Afghanistan was the precursor to Putin invading Ukraine
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Treaty? What treaty? I must have missed that one. Treaties have to be ratified by 2/3 of the US Senate, right?

Oh wait, it's just wtf posting another bald-faced lie.

Never mind.
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Treaty? What treaty? I must have missed that one. Treaties have to be ratified by 2/3 of the US Senate, right?

Oh wait, it's just wtf posting another bald-faced lie.

Never mind.
Treaty/Deal....is that all you got. I'm sure you're used to hearing that.

Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo meeting with Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, now the Taliban's de facto political leader, in Doha, Qatar, in September 2020. Photo: U.S. Department of State/Handout/Anadolu Agency via Getty Images
A number of former senior Trump officials have sought to distance themselves from the Taliban peace deal that was signed in February 2020, with chaos erupting after the militants took control of Afghanistan this week.

Why it matters: The agreement has come under new scrutiny for laying the groundwork for the U.S. military's withdrawal from Afghanistan, which coincided with a sweeping Taliban offensive that ended in the fall of Kabul on Sunday.

The big picture: The Trump administration agreed to withdraw from the country by May 1, 2021, if the Taliban negotiated a peace agreement with the Afghan government and promised to prevent terrorist groups like al-Qaeda and the Islamic State from gaining a foothold.

Biden said he had to follow through with the agreement or risk new conflicts with the Taliban in the spring, which might have required an additional troop surge into Afghanistan. However, Biden's decision to push back the withdrawal date to Aug. 31 shows that he had the ability to refashion some parameters of the agreement.
Biden blamed the Trump administration this week for the chaos in Afghanistan, saying the former president emboldened the Taliban and left the insurgency group "in the strongest position militarily since 2001."
Biden acknowledged, however, that he ultimately would have tried to withdraw all troops from Afghanistan even if Trump had not struck a deal with the Taliban, and that he saw no way to complete a withdrawal "without chaos ensuing."
What they're saying
Former UN ambassador Nikki Haley, who resigned from the Trump administration before the agreement was finalized, tweeted Wednesday: "Negotiating with the Taliban is like dealing with the devil."

Flashback: Haley praised Trump's goal of reaching a deal with the Taliban in January 2018, and she was still in the administration when it started seeking direct talks with Taliban officials in July 2018.
Former acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller told Defense One this week that Trump's agreement was actually a "play" to mask his administration's true intentions, which were to broker a Taliban-led government that would allow a small number of U.S. troops to remain in the country to conduct counterterrorism missions.

Miller's claims come despite Trump repeatedly publicly revealing his desire to end the Afghanistan War and his significant troop reductions in the final months of his administration.
Lisa Curtis, a former senior National Security Council official who sat alongside Afghanistan envoy Zalmay Khalilzad during the negotiations with the Taliban, told AP: "The Doha agreement was a very weak agreement, and the U.S. should have gained more concessions from the Taliban."

Former Defense Secretary Mark Esper, who was fired by Trump in November 2020, said he believed at the time the agreement was signed that it should have been "conditions-based," which is in part why he later objected to Trump's call for a Christmas homecoming for U.S. troops.

Esper told CNN that although Biden is responsible for the outcome in Afghanistan, Trump "undermined" the agreement and weakened U.S. leverage in negotiations by impatiently calling for troop reductions in the country.
John Bolton and H.R. McMaster, two former Trump national security advisers known for their hawkish views, have lambasted both Trump and Biden for the withdrawal — though both have long been critical of the Taliban agreement.

"Our secretary of state [Mike Pompeo] signed a surrender agreement with the Taliban," McMaster said on Bari Weiss' podcast. "This collapse goes back to the capitulation agreement of 2020. The Taliban didn’t defeat us. We defeated ourselves."
Bolton told CNN: "Had Trump been re-elected, he’d be doing the same thing. On this question of withdrawal from Afghanistan, Trump and Biden are like Tweedledee and Tweedledum."
The other side: Pompeo, the only U.S. secretary of state to meet with Taliban officials in person while at the signing ceremony of the agreement in Doha in September 2020, told Fox News he does not believe the negotiations legitimized the Taliban and that the Trump administration never trusted the group to begin with.

Pompeo also insisted the agreement was conditions-based and that the Trump administration would have retaliated against the militant group if it did not follow through with its guarantees.
However, Trump in October 2020 had been calling for all troops to be home by Christmas that year. Violence in the country, primarily from improvised explosive devices, had already started surging the last few months of the Trump administration, according to the United Nations.
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Mitch and his Commie wife will be strung up.

Trump said so
Trump hired a Commie?

You Drain the Swamp babies sure seem to think Donnie is never at fault for hiring all these so called swamp creatures.

Do you pray at the alter of the Donald? ...or at your local urinal?
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Treaty/Deal....is that all you got.

No, that's not all. You can't spell, you can't think, you can't put up drywall without hiring illegals, and you can't wipe your pimply ass without injuring yourself. That's just for starters. Want more?

But thanks for walking back your stupid post and admitting you're a liar who deliberately called a loose, conditional agreement with a non-state belligerent a "treaty".

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Biden said he had to follow through with the agreement... However, Biden's decision to push back the withdrawal date to Aug. 31 shows that he had the ability to refashion some parameters of the agreement...

Biden blamed the Trump administration this week for the chaos in Afghanistan...

Biden acknowledged, however, that he ultimately would have tried to withdraw all troops from Afghanistan even if Trump had not struck a deal with the Taliban...
^^^ And thanks for the cut & paste job showing everyone what a lying jackass Biden is!

Only you forgot to mention how the US Army just issued a 2,000+ page report chronicling all of Biden's fuck-ups as Commander in Chief during the disastrous Afghan withdrawal. Our POTUS is such a stand-up guy that he "rejected" the report in its entirety without even reading it!

Even CNN's Jake Tapper was outraged!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PleEPgE7mgs


But at least our senile incompetent POTUS still has ass-licking lackeys like you to help shift the blame whenever he bungles every decision that comes his way!
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In other words, you can't refute it. You're a liar, plain and simple.
I noticed you didn't supply your source or any information that backs your version. Your post proves your word is worthless.
If these sources were so unreliable, it would be easy to show examples of that claim. But you can't do that either. Come back when you can do more than sputter.
Just because Trumpys believe your unsupported bullshit doesn't mean anyone else does.
He and lustylad are experts at changing the subject.

They never argue the veracity of the article....but instantly try and shoot the messenger.

Pitiful
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Old 03-03-2022, 02:14 PM   #30
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^^^ And thanks for the cut & paste job showing everyone what a lying jackass Biden is!

Only you forgot to mention how the US Army
There was a suicide bomber, Einstein. Not much you can do about those.

Both Biden and Trump agreed to withdraw from Afganistan....the Army wouhave had us there forevermore.

So if you want to blame or credit anyone....do so to both. But you're too hypocritical to do that.

The article showed how both sides lied. That you only see one....is probably due to Trump cum in one eye.


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No, that's not all. You can't spell, you can't think, you can't put up drywall without hiring illegals, and you can't wipe your pimply ass without injuring yourself. That's just for starters. Want more?

But thanks for walking back your stupid post and admitting you're a liar who deliberately called a loose, conditional agreement with a non-state belligerent a "treaty".
You haven't a clue who I hire...if I hire or even if I build anything. Do you complain about grammar down at your favorite Gloryhole? Jesus..I bet dicks hate to see your mouth when they pop through the hole.
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