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01-18-2014, 03:48 PM
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The question should be, what gives the government the right to invade your right to privacy without a valid search warrant. Your phone being your personal property and as such an extension of your person should not be subject to a search without probable cause and a valid warrant. Just having a phone in your possession shoud not be cause even if you are arrested unless there is reasonable proof that you used your phone in the particular crime for which you were arrtested.
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01-18-2014, 03:52 PM
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The fucking constitution grants no specific right to privacy, btw.
it's been argued forever, and certain rights have been defined by interpretation.
Fourth Amendment protects against illegal search and seizure. But...
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01-18-2014, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ExNYer
The Supreme Court is going to review a couple of cases where the police searched the phone of some one they were arresting and found evidence:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/u-supreme-c...194336271.html
But I doubt very much that they will completely eliminate the ability of cops to look at what is on your phone. In fact, they might not change the law at all.
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"Under court precedent, police are permitted to search at the time of an arrest without a warrant, primarily to ensure the defendant is not armed and to secure evidence that could otherwise be destroyed. In the past, it has applied to such items as wallets, calendars, address books and diaries."
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The problem is that people simply store too much stuff - especially text, e-mails and pictures - on their phones.
You are looking like an idiotic, yankee racist on this one. How many guys on this board have a bunch of texts from providers scheduling appointments, giving directions, etc. Not to mention pictures of BCD activities. Can you imagine IBH's embarrassment when the police find all those pictures of him blowing trannies?
You are looking like an idiotic, yankee racist on this one. So, if you have bad shit on your phone, delete it as soon as you see the flashing red lights. But, if you are pretty certain you are going to get arrested, it might be wisest to get out of the car and smash the phone on the ground BEFORE they put the cuffs on you.
You are looking like an idiotic, yankee racist on this one. If the cop asks why you did that, say "My asshole boss keeps calling me at all hours of the day. I lost my temper."
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All of the pertinent information is available at the phone company, and accessible if needed by a warrant.You are looking like an idiotic, yankee racist on this one.You are looking like an idiotic, yankee racist on this one. You are looking like an idiotic, yankee racist on this one.You are looking like an idiotic, yankee racist on this one.You are looking like an idiotic, yankee racist on this one. You are looking like an idiotic, yankee racist on this one.You are looking like an idiotic, yankee racist on this one.
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01-18-2014, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BJerk
All of the pertinent information is available at the phone company, and accessible if needed by a warrant.You are looking like an idiotic, yankee racist on this one.You are looking like an idiotic, yankee racist on this one. You are looking like an idiotic, yankee racist on this one.You are looking like an idiotic, yankee racist on this one.You are looking like an idiotic, yankee racist on this one. You are looking like an idiotic, yankee racist on this one.You are looking like an idiotic, yankee racist on this one.
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I knew it... LOL
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01-19-2014, 07:24 AM
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The Constitution was not written to grant rights to people. The Constitution was written to establish a form and function of government and to establish limitation on the government, not to control the rights of the people. The so called Bill of Rights that is the first through the tenth amendments are not granting rights but limiting the control of government over the people. The people retain all rights including the right to privacy.
So if, as you believe, the Constitution grants rights, where is the one that grants the right to not be offended.
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01-19-2014, 11:33 AM
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All of the pertinent information is available at the phone company......
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Explain to me then why in the Zimmerman/Martin case the police had to get the phone company to help them crack the code to get into Trayvon's phone?
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01-19-2014, 12:04 PM
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Explain to me then why in the Zimmerman/Martin case the police had to get the phone company to help them crack the code to get into Trayvon's phone?
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because the pertinent information was at the phone company ..... DUH
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01-19-2014, 01:46 PM
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Hardly, dumbshit, some of the pertinent information that was listed is sometimes is only in the phone - NOT solely in the phone companies computers.
Nice try dumbshit troll.
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01-19-2014, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by The2Dogs
The Constitution was not written to grant rights to people. The Constitution was written to establish a form and function of government and to establish limitation on the government, not to control the rights of the people. The so called Bill of Rights that is the first through the tenth amendments are not granting rights but limiting the control of government over the people. The people retain all rights including the right to privacy.
So if, as you believe, the Constitution grants rights, where is the one that grants the right to not be offended.
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Ozombies like "gubmint control" they are some good "sheepeoples".
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01-19-2014, 04:31 PM
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Hardly, dumbshit, some of the pertinent information that was listed is sometimes is only in the phone - NOT solely in the phone companies computers.
Nice try dumbshit troll.
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I was a cell phone Froggy, the intel stored in the memory ie pertinent information that gets decoded by the people that sell or make the phone ... where would you suggest the cops take the phone ? Dairy Queen ?
and you need to learn the definition of troll, dumbshit.
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01-19-2014, 06:49 PM
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Your sister said to thank you for helping her *master* her trade in all of those *private family sessions* you had together, you racist, dumb-fuck Yankee jackass, and she apologizes for charging you week after week the whole of your allowance. Therefore, you really shouldn't call your cheap, double-bagger, whoring-sister a "tranny", you racist, dumb-fuck Yankee jackass.
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More "so is your sister" humor from the tranny fuckee.
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01-19-2014, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by gnadfly
You could just put a screen lock code on your phone and refuse to reveal it to them. My guess is they are going to have to at least charge you with a crime and get a warrant to search the phone before they attempt to break the code.
Edit: Smashing a phone is likely a "red flag" to an officer. You would have to damage the phone severely in make it unsalvageable. Most people would just break the screen and not damage the internals.
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Smashing the phone may be a red flag, but then again, refusing to tell them the password to unlock the phone is likely also red flag. And whan I say "smash". I mean SMASH. Hard into the ground and then stomp on it.
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All of the pertinent information is available at the phone company, and accessible if needed by a warrant.
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Actually, no. If you don't sync the phone with the cloud, they won't know who you contacts are. And that is a BIG deal. The iPhone has contacts that are only on the phone if you are smart enough to refrain from syncing it.
Text messages will be stored by the phone company, but that just means do NOT text with providers or text about any illegal activities. If you are engage in illegality, you should only be TALKING to the other party, not texting.
Also, destroying the phone will make it near impossible to figure out your account anyhow. They can't turn the phone on to even get your number. If they ask for your phone number, give them your real world cell number. Let them prove it was a different phone you broke.
Most important of all, the smashed phone should NOT be in your name. Get one of those cash-only burner phones. If it isn't in your name and your smashed it, they can't do shit.
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01-19-2014, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CJ7
I was a cell phone Froggy, the intel stored in the memory ie pertinent information that gets decoded by the people that sell or make the phone ... where would you suggest the cops take the phone ? Dairy Queen ?
and you need to learn the definition of troll, dumbshit.
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So now you agree that much of the pertinent information is inside the phone and are changing the argument to the decoding information. Nice. Glad you see it the way I originally stated it. During the Zimmerman/Martin trial, the Martin phone was locked out. The phone company helped them unlock the phone and the IT guys for the police did the rest. The IT guy was fired because he was ordered to not turn over all the information retrieved on the phone.
Dumbshit. CBJ7 = troll.
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Smashing the phone may be a red flag, but then again, refusing to tell them the password to unlock the phone is likely also red flag. And whan I say "smash". I mean SMASH. Hard into the ground and then stomp on it.
Actually, no. If you don't sync the phone with the cloud, they won't know who you contacts are. And that is a BIG deal. The iPhone has contacts that are only on the phone if you are smart enough to refrain from syncing it.
Text messages will be stored by the phone company, but that just means do NOT text with providers or text about any illegal activities. If you are engage in illegality, you should only be TALKING to the other party, not texting.
Also, destroying the phone will make it near impossible to figure out your account anyhow. They can't turn the phone on to even get your number. If they ask for your phone number, give them your real world cell number. Let them prove it was a different phone you broke.
Most important of all, the smashed phone should NOT be in your name. Get one of those cash-only burner phones. If it isn't in your name and your smashed it, they can't do shit.
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What is and is not on the phone varies from phone, providers and how the phone is set up.
There's software to not just lock out the phone but to encrypt the data on the phone. The software and I'm not talking the std software from the cell phone, is very sophisticated.
I don't know about your phone exNYer but they can ID my phone by the numbers on the label behind the battery. The only way I'm going to be able to destroy it is by tossing it in a very hot fire - literally a burner. Even sticking it in the Microwave oven may not damage the sim card enough.
What I'm talking about is if the cops stop you for say soliciting (male POV). Make it difficult for them. I'd like to know how many regular johns who had their phone taken actually had a warrant issued by the police to break into the phone. For a female, same thing.
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01-19-2014, 08:15 PM
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[QUOTE=gnadfly;1054865366]So now you agree that much of the pertinent information is inside the phone and are changing the argument to the decoding information. Nice. Glad you see it the way I originally stated it. During the Zimmerman/Martin trial, the Martin phone was locked out. The phone company helped them unlock the phone and the IT guys for the police did the rest. The IT guy was fired because he was ordered to not turn over all the information retrieved on the phone.
Dumbshit. CBJ7 = troll.
nope, I said the pertinent info was in the phone from the get go .. that's why I said it was the reason the cops took it to the phone company .. read the thread sport.
ain't too sharp are ya gonadfly .... you're a moron, ... too stupid to be a troll.
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01-20-2014, 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ExNYer
More "so is your sister" humor from the tranny fuckee.
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The racist, dumb-fuck Yankee jackass is still calling his cheap, double-bagger, whoring-sister a "tranny".
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