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Old 04-23-2013, 07:10 AM   #16
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And the WH rationale for supporting the middle class tax hike ?????

"TO LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD".................

Said Jay Carney, spoken like a true statist............
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:29 AM   #17
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It was Obama's phony pledge; NOT the GOP.
Thats right, Whirlyjizz... Just ask Grover!
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:31 AM   #18
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It was Obama's phony pledge; NOT the GOP.
Thats right, Whirlyjizz... Just ask Grover!

Your continued used of words like "Obamas war on the middle class" is right out of the Teapuke talking points. you need to start bringing something constructive to this discussion. otherwise, nobody will believe you're telling the truth!

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Old 04-23-2013, 08:32 AM   #19
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lighten up Yssup you'll blow a gasket, but I guess you guy's like callin each other names, but my taxes went up at the first of the year and I'm not in the upper 2% income bracket and I'm concerned that there are taxes we don't know about with the Obamacare thing
Federal, state or local? Do you even know?
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:35 AM   #20
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Amazing. The Obamatons will defend ANYTHING Obama does. Scary.

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Raising taxes on the middle class + Raising regulations/mandates on the middle class + Raising debt on the middle class = Obama's War On The Middle Class !
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BTW; true to the deceitfullness of the Obama Democrats, the internet tax bill is called:

"The Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act, or CISPA".......................

Very much the manner Obama called his other tax on the middle class the "Affordable Health Care For America Act".......

Fucking deceitful liars..................
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Old 04-23-2013, 09:49 AM   #23
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btw, theres more where this came from
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:57 PM   #26
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BTW; true to the deceitfullness of the Obama Democrats, the internet tax bill is called:

"The Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act, or CISPA"...
Huh??

CISPA is not the "internet tax bill." It's a proposed law that's putatively intended to address issues relating to cyber security, and has nothing to do with taxes. You're conflating (or are confused by) two completely unrelated issues.

The "internet tax bill" is called the Marketplace Fairness Act. Perhaps that's an unfortunate name, given congress's record. It's easy to see why many people might take a look at the word "fairness" in the bill's title and reflexively assume that it has nothing to do with "fairness."

But actually, it does.

Either you are OK with state sales taxes, or you are not. If you are, then why would you argue that one class of merchants (online retailers) should enjoy a large competitive advantage over another, simply by dint of the fact that its members do not have to collect state sales tax?

Some opponents of the bill express concerns that reporting requirements would place an onerous burden on small businesses and seriously impact their prospects for success. That's another bogus argument. For one thing, many small online merchants sell thru Amazon, which will quite happily handle tax collection matters for them, as well as give them maximum exposure in the marketplace. Many others utilize eBay, which will certainly respond to the challenge in similar ways. Sellers who choose to go it alone will easily be able to implement newly developed tax-reporting software.

This should not be considered a partisan "conservative vs. liberal" issue.

It's simply a matter of equity.
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:55 PM   #27
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They are right. CISPA is not the internet tax bill. CISPA is about something else.

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