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Old 01-21-2012, 08:18 AM   #16
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I think Romney might ask Hillary, both are leftists at heart who know the best way to boil a frog, unlike the POSITOO.
About 5 days ago there was chatter from both MSNBC and FOX about a dump Biden and get Hillary for VP movement. This indicates to me the Dems are getting nervous.
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Old 01-21-2012, 10:33 AM   #17
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About 5 days ago there was chatter from both MSNBC and FOX about a dump Biden and get Hillary for VP movement. This indicates to me the Dems are getting nervous.
I have heard that rumor several times- this rumor actually came up about a week after McCain choose Palin so it's been around for a minute- I think it's the Republicans that should be nervous- latest poll has Newt winning in S.C- I see no such scenario of Newt defeating Obama.
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Old 01-21-2012, 10:00 PM   #18
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About 5 days ago there was chatter from both MSNBC and FOX about a dump Biden and get Hillary for VP movement. This indicates to me the Dems are getting nervous.
I would be nervous with Biden as VP

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Old 01-22-2012, 07:52 AM   #19
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Let's see, if I was the Big "O" who would I feel safer with as VP, the guy who called me "clean" or the woman who casually brought up the possibility of my getting my ass shot so she could get the nomination. . . I'd better call Mr. Soros and ask. . .
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Old 01-23-2012, 02:46 AM   #20
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If Romney wins, Rubio, Jindal, and Santorum all make sense. Maybe Pawlenty.

If Gingrich wins, which I still consider somewhat unlikely, who knows what that goofy SOB will do. But Mitt would be a good choice. Huntsman, Santorum, Pawlenty. Rubio and Jindal lack geographical balance, but Clinton/Gore proved you don't have to have that. But it's hard to see any insider who has future aspirations of running accepting the nomination since Newt is so unpopular with the party establishment.
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Old 01-23-2012, 04:39 AM   #21
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But it's hard to see any insider who has future aspirations of running accepting the nomination since Newt is so unpopular with the party establishment.
I believe Newt should pick Palin to help balance out his ticket. Then we would have Dumb and Dumber!
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Old 01-23-2012, 07:17 AM   #22
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The VP discussion is likely to begin and end at Marco Rubio. The Hispanic population is the fastest growing segment in the USA and also the fastest growing voting block. Rubio is young, more conservative than Mitt, and will be the first Hispanic major office holder. I expect Barry the Intern to look for a Hispanic candidate or a female candidate to dump Joe the Foot in Mouth diseased VP.
joe manchin has more experience than obama, and more appeal. he'd balance the weasel's ticket...but if the dems wanted to win, they'd dump the weasel and draft manchin...
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Old 01-23-2012, 08:43 AM   #23
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Jindal & Rubio would not qualify for VP, their birth parents weren't citizens when they were born.
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Old 01-23-2012, 08:56 AM   #24
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Jindal & Rubio would not qualify for VP, their birth parents weren't citizens when they were born.
Both were born in the U.S. Both are citizens by birth per the current understanding and interpretation of the 14th Amendment.
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Romney will need a southerner with some charisma, maybe Marco Rubio, but I think Rubio needs more experience to be taken seriously. Possibly Jeb Bush. Jeb seems to be the only Bush with a brain. Maybe Michelle Bachmann or Bobby Jindal.

Gingrich needs someone to give the appearance of calmness and stability. Again, Jeb Bush would fit the bill. Possibly Pawlenty or Huntsman. But someone from Florida is the odds on favorite.

However, I don't expect to vote for either Romney or Gingrich, no matter who they choose.
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Old 01-23-2012, 02:11 PM   #26
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Yes, Jindal and Rubio both qualify as it doesn't matter where their parents were born or the legal status.

How about Mitch Daniels of Indiana? He was once touted as a possible presidential candidate.
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Old 01-23-2012, 08:50 PM   #27
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Both were born in the U.S. Both are citizens by birth per the current understanding and interpretation of the 14th Amendment.
yes, sure based on an incorrect interpretation of the admendment.
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Old 01-23-2012, 09:08 PM   #28
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yes, sure based on an incorrect interpretation of the admendment.
Right or wrong, it's been interpreted that way for over 100 years.

United States v. Wong Kim Ark

In the case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), the Supreme Court ruled that a person who:
  1. is born in the United States
  2. of parents who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of a foreign power
  3. whose parents have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States
  4. whose parents are there carrying on business and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity of the foreign power to which they are subject
becomes, at the time of his birth, a citizen of the United States by virtue of the first clause of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
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Old 01-23-2012, 09:10 PM   #29
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yes, sure based on an incorrect interpretation of the admendment.
Dilbert are you saying our President should not be?
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Old 01-24-2012, 09:59 PM   #30
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How about Mitch Daniels of Indiana? He was once touted as a possible presidential candidate.
Never understood the appeal do Daniels. He's a very poor speaker. Dull as he can be. I understand that he would lock up Indiana, but I just don't see it.
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