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Old 11-11-2020, 03:03 PM   #16
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GOP election official in Philly denies any fraud and states that they tried to run down fraud allegations and found them unsubstantiated.
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Old 11-11-2020, 03:25 PM   #17
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GOP election official in Philly denies any fraud and states that they tried to run down fraud allegations and found them unsubstantiated.
Keep drinking the kool aid!
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Old 11-11-2020, 04:20 PM   #18
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I thought the election of 2016 was stolen because of fraud. Were you all lying then or are you lying now?

I think Hillary was going to challenge the results but backed off. I don't think she backed off from the goodness of her black heart.
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Old 11-11-2020, 04:30 PM   #19
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None. But they did allege interference by Russians in sowing suppression and confusion in the election process. Kinda, well not kinda, a different thing. But to republicans and Trumpys nuance doesn’t exist. There were allegations of fraud in the 2018 GA senate election by Abrams and her people. But Fox and Republicans uniformly denied that voter fraud even existed. They also said it was unpatriotic to claim the US elections process had fraud.
The election was on November 8, 2016. On November 9, 2016 Hillary Clinton conceded the election to Donald Trump.

Hillary Clinton called on her supporters to accept the US election result on Wednesday, as she delivered a concession speech in New York in which she pressed Donald Trump to hold fast to American values.

“Donald Trump is going to be our president,” she said, speaking at the New Yorker hotel in Manhattan. “We owe him an open mind and a chance to lead.”


Trump won with 306 Electoral Votes. Biden currently has 290 and could end up with 306 EVs. Clinton showed a great deal of class in her concession. Donald Trump has no class.
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“There’s a great human capacity for inventing things that aren’t true about elections,” said Frank LaRose, a Republican who serves as Ohio’s secretary of state. “The conspiracy theories and rumors and all those things run rampant. For some reason, elections breed that type of mythology.”

“Kansas did not experience any widespread, systematic issues with voter fraud, intimidation, irregularities or voting problems,” a spokeswoman for Scott Schwab, the Republican secretary of state in Kansas, said in an email Tuesday. “We are very pleased with how the election has gone up to this point.”

The New York Times contacted the offices of the top election officials in every state on Monday and Tuesday to ask whether they suspected or had evidence of illegal voting. Officials in 45 states responded directly to The Times. For four of the remaining states, The Times spoke to other statewide officials or found public comments from secretaries of state; none reported any major voting issues.

GA Lt. Gov says no fraud.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/polit...ntv/index.html

Election fraud is the big lie of the Republicans but even their Secretaries of State deny its existence.
Did you believe the Russian Collusion? That was quite an invention, built and marketed by the Democrats.
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Did you believe the Russian Collusion? That was quite an invention, built and marketed by the the Democrats.
Will Trump be President come January 20?
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Will Trump be President come January 20?
No. But the asterisk has already been applied to bidens illegitimate election win.
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Will Trump be President come January 20?
Maybe, Maybe not. But if Biden is he'll fuck a lot of shit up, because that's what Biden does.
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He will start by unfucking all the stupid shit DJT did. And will probably do a lot more stupid shit before he is out, he has already started on that.
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Did you believe the Russian Collusion? That was quite an invention, built and marketed by the Democrats.
Actually it was initiate by the Republicans. I think it was the Rubio campaign.
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No. But the asterisk has already been applied to bidens illegitimate election win.
Does one get to serve 4 years as president with an asterisk?
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No. But the asterisk has already been applied to bidens illegitimate election win.
Trump has 10 asterisks at least.
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I must have forgotten. I think you have. What voter fraud did Democrats say cost them the election i 2016?

I think a reasonable person can assume that when Democrats called Trump an illegitimate President, we can assume they were talking about fraud without using the word though I have no doubt many Democrats used that word. I think that saying Trump was a Russian agent, they were implying if not outright using the word, that he committed election fraud.



How many days did Al Gore contest the election results?
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I think a reasonable person can assume that when Democrats called Trump an illegitimate President, we can assume they were talking about fraud without using the word though I have no doubt many Democrats used that word. I think that saying Trump was a Russian agent, they were implying if not outright using the word, that he committed election fraud.



How many days did Al Gore contest the election results?

about a month before he finally conceded.
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GOP election official in Philly denies any fraud and states that they tried to run down fraud allegations and found them unsubstantiated.

The bigger question in Penn. is, did the Gov. and then the Penn. SC, make an unconstitutional ruling by making a decision to alter election rules when that is the sole jurisdiction of the Legislature? What if the SC of the US rules ( I have the feeling they will take the easy way out and call it a moot point all things considered but they shouldn't ) says that none of the votes that came in after the election closed on election day, can be counted? Maybe it will not reach a threshold to change the outcome but that doesn't mean it isn't important to know that the election process in Penn. was constitutional or not.


You did make a point about fraud being a legal term which implies intent, but I ask myself, how does a Gov. probably with a law degree and the SC of Penn. not know what the constitution says about what they did? They didn't "intend" to make an unconstitutional ruling? Really? They were just ignorant of the law? Really?


I'm still waiting to hear how "if" a dead person voted, that wasn't fraud on somebodies part. At the end of this process, if nobody can prove a dead person voted as some Democrats are claiming, then and only then will I acknowledge that no fraud happened in the case of dead people voting but I think I'll wait for the courts to tell me that.
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