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Old 12-19-2019, 07:49 PM   #16
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Old 12-20-2019, 06:06 AM   #17
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germany reunited was a mistake.
So East Germany should still be under Russian rule?

Looks as if Trump will give Putin the whole of Europe...

All of the ME except for Saudi Arabia and maybe Israel.

Of course he has given them Venezuela and Cuba can't be far behind to fall back in Putins sphere of influence.


Oh and Russia did not interfere in the 2016 elections...Putin told the Donald that Ukraine did!

They too, soon will fall to Russia...much like the United States has
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Old 12-20-2019, 06:33 AM   #18
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So East Germany should still be under Russian rule?

Looks as if Trump will give Putin the whole of Europe...

All of the ME except for Saudi Arabia and maybe Israel.

Of course he has given them Venezuela and Cuba can't be far behind to fall back in Putins sphere of influence.


Oh and Russia did not interfere in the 2016 elections...Putin told the Donald that Ukraine did!

They too, soon will fall to Russia...much like the United States has
What an active imagination some TDS'ers have these days.
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Old 12-20-2019, 07:55 AM   #19
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What an active imagination some TDS'ers have these days.
I suppose you agree with what comrade dilbert said?
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ftw forgot = The Crimea!!!
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ftw forgot = The Crimea!!!
Oebsy forgot ... HITLERS!

Rexsy didn't.
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Those who knoweth not history - are condemned to repeat it
DPST's preach socdialism rather than the hard facts of understanding History- and its' ramifications on societies today.

usual worthless waste of bandwidth - YR-Hoe
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Oh and Russia did not interfere in the 2016 elections...Putin told the Donald that Ukraine did!
and?

you would rather believe the continually corrupt Ukraines DIDN'T interfere? these people who gutlessly stopped investigating Hunter Biden, when Sleepy Joe begged them to? the Ukraine whose President wouldn't do more than smile, when asked if there was a quid pro quo? you believe Hilary Clinton, who paid for the Steel Dossier?
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Old 12-21-2019, 12:12 AM   #25
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So East Germany should still be under Russian rule?

you basically misconstrued what I said.


E. Germany would not be under russian rule.


E. Germany would have been an independent commie state, albeit on short legs like a number of communist east European countries.
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and?

you would rather believe the continually corrupt Ukraines DIDN'T interfere? these people who gutlessly stopped investigating Hunter Biden, when Sleepy Joe begged them to? the Ukraine whose President wouldn't do more than smile, when asked if there was a quid pro quo? you believe Hilary Clinton, who paid for the Steel Dossier?
I believe the facts....Russia did a full bore distortion campaign and Ukraine had a fucking mid level government employee write a opposition oped against Trump.

That is like the difference between Lightening and a Lightening Bug.
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you basically misconstrued what I said.


E. Germany would not be under russian rule.


E. Germany would have been an independent commie state, albeit on short legs like a number of communist east European countries.
Where do you think E Germany obtained support from pre wall coming down?
Costa Rica?
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germany reunited was a mistake.
You're nuts. Reuniting under communist rule would have been a "mistake". Reuniting as it did as a Western capitalist democracy belonging to NATO was a huge triumph and success - and a tribute to the agile diplomacy of Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush.
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So East Germany should still be under Russian rule?

Looks as if Trump will give Putin the whole of Europe...

All of the ME except for Saudi Arabia and maybe Israel.

Of course he has given them Venezuela and Cuba can't be far behind to fall back in Putins sphere of influence.


Oh and Russia did not interfere in the 2016 elections...Putin told the Donald that Ukraine did!

They too, soon will fall to Russia...much like the United States has
Europe should pay for their own defense and save themselves from Putin.

The Donald is doing them a favor getting them to spend more on defense.

Israel is a greater strategic interest for the United States so we should continue to assist them.
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Old 12-21-2019, 08:19 PM   #30
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You're nuts. Reuniting under communist rule would have been a "mistake". Reuniting as it did as a Western capitalist democracy belonging to NATO was a huge triumph and success - and a tribute to the agile diplomacy of Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush.

not nuts. I think they should be permanently divided.



absorbing E. Germany who after 50 years under commie rule were culturally different from their western peers.


there is a lot of resentment in the former E. Germany on how it was handled. they have not caught up economically with their western peers.



a united Germany is much more dangerous due to the mischief they are tempted to make.



It gave them a free hand to screw Yugoslavia & Serbs with their antics.


they are also largely behind the EU project which was meant as a backdoor way to control much of continental Europe.
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