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07-07-2011, 08:54 AM
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Could it be providers care more than civilians?
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Don't know about "care more", but I do think they actively pay more attention and have more experience with different guys in different moods.
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07-07-2011, 09:50 AM
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Guys: Have you set your bar high for civilian women when it comes down to looks,personality, & performance in the bedroom. Would you consider dating a civilian woman that was attracted to you..but she does not measure up to all of the beautiful providers that you have been with. How has the hobby changed your outlook on dating/relationships with civilian women.
Ladies: How do you feel about guys setting their bar real high once they have plenty of great dates with providers? Do feel flattered when guys use you to set the bar in their civilian dating life?
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Interesting questions. Let me ask the question, if you watch a lot of porn do you expect your average everyday civilian woman to be like the porn stars you watch when in the bedroom? Same thing applies to the escort world. It is all fantasy, not reality. I don't see it as a compliment but more so someone who may be out of touch with what is reality.
Just my take on this..
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07-07-2011, 10:07 AM
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Interesting questions. Let me ask the question, if you watch a lot of porn do you expect your average everyday civilian woman to be like the porn stars you watch when in the bedroom? Same thing applies to the escort world. It is all fantasy, not reality. I don't see it as a compliment but more so someone who may be out of touch with what is reality.
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I agree with you from a looks perspective, of course taste varies, but is it unrealistic for me to want that kind of sexual performance with my partner.
Believe it or not not all men want what hobbyists want.
The main problem to me seems to be how to determine if your partner is interested in that kind of sexual relationship prior to marriage for example. My only solutions would be some very frank discussions, but then you have to reconcile that with your feelings.
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07-07-2011, 10:28 AM
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I agree with you from a looks perspective, of course taste varies, but is it unrealistic for me to want that kind of sexual performance with my partner.
Believe it or not not all men want what hobbyists want.
The main problem to me seems to be how to determine if your partner is interested in that kind of sexual relationship prior to marriage for example. My only solutions would be some very frank discussions, but then you have to reconcile that with your feelings.
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Like anything when relationships are concerned communication is key. If you ask your partner, girl friend, lover, wife if they would like to experiment with anal sex, what happens if you are told flat out "no". Does that mean you scrap the whole relationship because she isn't interested in anal sex? What if she is not into giving fellatio on a regular basis if at all?
A friend of mine said this once to me, and I have to agree to a certain extent. "Today it seems we live in such transient times, that relationships and sex have become disposable".
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07-07-2011, 10:41 AM
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Of course there are different expectations in a civie vs. Provider.
The provider (a good one) is going to go out of her way to knock your socks off. The motivation is money of course. She wants you to come back for more. The civilian lady is a whole other thought process. She wants to really get to know you, learn your quirks, what makes you tick, etc.
I expect much better BCD with a provider. One of my best BJ's ever is from a civie I know. Top notch civie girls exist but keep in mind that most likely won't be as abundunt as a provider. A provider's job is all sexual. The civilian's is much more than sexual....
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07-07-2011, 11:52 AM
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EA, I am talking about in my own experience. Many civilian gals can for surpass most providers in everyway but the top providers who have a gorgeous face, perfect body, great attitude, super bcd skills and are very experienced are hard to match. Experience of the provider means a lot and many civilian gals just dont have that varied experience. Of course, if you have great chemistry with a civilian gal who is a total passionate nympho and she has a "perfect" body and face, that probably will be hard to beat by almost any provider. In general, the best of the providers of which there are very few, do set the bar high for most civilian gals.
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07-07-2011, 12:05 PM
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After having been in the business for approx. 9 months, I find that it has affected me in my personal civilian dating life. :-( I don't want to get too deep though. Sigh!
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I avoid dating.. I cant give my whole while in this biz. I dont want to lie and hide it or not want to come home and not want do my man because I was done all day.. lol Or put my man at a higher risk of STD's etc because of this job.. No matter how careful you are or how often you get checked nothing is fool proof.
Funny even though Im a "provider" Im still a civi. All ladies are we weren't born hookers. Im a civi with a different kind of job. Im still just a regular girl thats wants love etc like the rest.. just not while Im in this job.. I do think it takes a certain kind of civi girl to do this kind of work and do it well.
I would say its almost hard to compare as 2 different thought processes are going on, one is emotional and one is a job. Two different ball games.
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07-07-2011, 12:14 PM
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This is nuts Women are Women. Some providers are great others not so much. Same in the civilian sector. Just the Civi is more time and trouble.
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Funny even though Im a "provider" Im still a civi. All ladies are we weren't born hookers. Im a civi with a different kind of job. Im still just a regular girl thats wants love etc like the rest.. just not while Im in this job..
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07-07-2011, 12:22 PM
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This is nuts Women are Women. Some providers are great others not so much. Same in the civilian sector. Just the Civi is more time and trouble.
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Yes, we are a civi with a different kind of job. So weird to me even to say "civi".. I have a job just like any other lady in the world. There are some ladies that couldnt do this job just like some ladies who cant wait tables..
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07-07-2011, 08:38 PM
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In many ways, the hobby does give some an unrealistic view ,when it comes to what is expected in civie relationships. I would think in the hobby you see a provider for the great sex and in a civie relationship it could be that same way with communication and expressing upfront your likes and dislikes. If a civie cares for you, trust you and wants to be with you. There is nothing she won't do for you sexually.............and that is true in any relationship. IMHO
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07-07-2011, 09:10 PM
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Hobbyists also have to keep their expectations grounded when it comes to dating in the civie world. The majority of hobbyists (myself included) are no hunks. We can fuck who we want here b/c looks don't matter. You may have to give that BBW a second look or the gal with mommy marks or be a lonely old man lol
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07-08-2011, 07:56 AM
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Hobbyists also have to keep their expectations grounded when it comes to dating in the civie world. The majority of hobbyists (myself included) are no hunks. We can fuck who we want here b/c looks don't matter. You may have to give that BBW a second look or the gal with mommy marks or be a lonely old man lol
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What I highlighted is the main reason why I can never see myself dating in the civie world. It would be really hard for a guy to lower his standards in the civie world when he has been having hot times with Top Shelf Providers that gives you mind blow expereinces.
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07-08-2011, 08:02 AM
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What I highlighted is the main reason why I can never see myself dating in the civie world. It would be really hard for a guy to lower his standards in the civie world when he has been having hot times with Top Shelf Providers that gives you mind blow expereinces.
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I agree but take the money that we pay them out of the equation and so is the provider. I have been in the P4P world 18 of 35 years on this earth and can say that no matter how hot of a time with a provider nothing beats the feelings from a civie who TRULY loves you.....
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07-08-2011, 08:19 AM
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sixxbach, don't you think that is because you perhaps are in love with the civie. I do know that sex is better when I am emotionally invested.
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07-08-2011, 08:33 AM
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I agree but take the money that we pay them out of the equation and so is the provider. I have been in the P4P world 18 of 35 years on this earth and can say that no matter how hot of a time with a provider nothing beats the feelings from a civie who TRULY loves you.....
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sixxbach, don't you think that is because you perhaps are in love with the civie. I do know that sex is better when I am emotionally invested.
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I could understand the emotion part in the civie world.. But for me nothing beats the Spontaneous Excitement that you get with a provider.
I get the Ultimate High knowing that I can get any type of woman that I want to fulfill my needs without the drama you receive in civie relationships.
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