An Eye for an Eye

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

If you believe this, Old-T, please explain why the socialist education system in Finland is currently being touted by liberals as the one to emulate.

What does that have to do with any of this?

j-b said "Multi-culturalism is what shattered Yugoslavia. Strength doesn't come from diversity. It comes from unity."

Just pointing out that the 3 I mentioned--Haiti, Cuba, N Korea--are about as homogeneously unified as you can find--but I doubt they meet j-b's idea of strong countries.

It seems a big leap from that to Finnish education.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Old-T

What does that have to do with any of this?

j-b said "Multi-culturalism is what shattered Yugoslavia. Strength doesn't come from diversity. It comes from unity."

Just pointing out that the 3 I mentioned--Haiti, Cuba, N Korea--are about as homogeneously unified as you can find--but I doubt they meet j-b's idea of strong countries.

It seems a big leap from that to Finnish education.

Check out Finland: it's "number one" in homogeneity, and the liberals are claiming more money and more societal control is all they need to put the U.S. education system on par with the Finnish education system. Of course, they really downplay the "homogeneity" part. It doesn't fit their mindset. Just an FYI.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Check out Finland: it's "number one" in homogeneity. Just an FYI.

Don't forget, according to TheAustinEscorts, Norway is the homeland of the master race.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by Old-T

What does that have to do with any of this?

j-b said "Multi-culturalism is what shattered Yugoslavia. Strength doesn't come from diversity. It comes from unity."

Just pointing out that the 3 I mentioned--Haiti, Cuba, N Korea--are about as homogeneously unified as you can find--but I doubt they meet j-b's idea of strong countries.

It seems a big leap from that to Finnish education.

Homogeneity is part of the formula for a successful country. It's obvioulsy not the only thing that matters. It helps if you're not a communist dictatorship.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Check out Finland: it's "number one" in homogeneity, and the liberals are claiming more money and more societal control is all they need to put the U.S. education system on par with the Finnish education system. Of course, they really downplay the "homogeneity" part. It doesn't fit their mindset. Just an FYI.

Interesting, I have not seen the discussion about Finnish education. I seriously question the cause and effect aspect of homogeneity and education in any case, and I suspect it is not the biggest reason why their education system is what it is (good or bad). And to assume the model that might work well in Finnland would work well in the US is a serious leap of faith. Still don't know whether it matters to j-b's comment.

Originally Posted by joe bloe

Don't forget, according to TheAustinEscorts, Norway is the homeland of the master race.

I truly have no clue what this comment has to do with your point. Absolutely none.

Originally Posted by joe bloe

Homogeneity is part of the formula for a successful country. It's obvioulsy not the only thing that matters. It helps if you're not a communist dictatorship.

Progress--you are acknowledging that "goodness" is not a function of one variable. But that does not explain why such a diverse cultural country as the US could ever do well. Almost half the original colonies were formed by cultural groups that fought to escape the control of another cultural group in England or another existing colony. The salve culture vs non-slave culture split the country for another 100+ years.

It isn't about "a single culture makes for strength". The British have been a hybred since Roman times. China has added/absorbed numerous cultures for thousands of years and has had as many years of being "strong" as any country I can think of. There are examples and counter examples all across the cultural axis.

[CuteOldGuy]

Well, I see my original point was lost somewhere around the second post.

[Old-T]

True. This group has some serious ADD symptoms.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Well, I see my original point was lost somewhere around the second post.

How can we see your point, we're all blind!

[gnadfly]

About 4 months ago the Feds discovered a plot very high up Iranian military men to bomb spots in Washington DC in an attempt to kill some Saudis. It was all over the news. They had even identified by name in the people in Iran.

What happened to that story?

[dilbert firestorm]

buried very deeply eye suspect.....

[WTF]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

buried very deeply eye suspect.....

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Old-T

Interesting, I have not seen the discussion about Finnish education. I seriously question the cause and effect aspect of homogeneity and education in any case, and I suspect it is not the biggest reason why their education system is what it is (good or bad). And to assume the model that might work well in Finnland would work well in the US is a serious leap of faith. Still don't know whether it matters to j-b's comment.

It wasn't directed at JB's post. It was directed at your post about countries known for their homogeneity.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

It wasn't directed at JB's post. It was directed at your post about counties known for their homogeneity.

OK. Guess that sort of makes sense, but since it was j-b's homogeneity post originally it probably applies to both. I still don't really get if you are pro-Finnish model or anti. I hadn't commented on education, and don't know enough about the Finnish model to comment.