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Natalie Reign · 01-03-2011, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Whispers

I need a "Poor Baby" at times!

::Pats your back:: There, there, darlin'. Everything's going to be alright. Poor baby.

knotty man · 01-03-2011, 04:55 PM

as far as the "ass kissing, or just sympathy and comfort for ANYONE being ripped off. its their choice to post as well as their right to post.whether it be here or in some dipshit co ed thread about aspd vs. eccie. we all have the right to do it as long as we are respectful of each other. if you dont like it you have the right to ignore it just as others have the right to ignore the incessant idiotic threads started by others in the co ed forum. what we dont have the right to do . is tell others what they should and should not post in their replies as well as in their threads. if this were true ,im sure the co ed forum would certainly have alot fewer assinine idiotic meritless threads.
and to keep this on topic. max, glad you safe. you go ahead and do your thang! whatever your policy is . if the guy truly wants to see you and respects you he'll follow what you ask for. and if not. im sure with your track record,you wont lack for gents worthy of you time and companionship.... im done PEACE!

Maxeen Monroe · 01-03-2011, 05:13 PM

I actually think the thread in the alert section is going well. I don't think it's a poor baby thread at all. I think it's a bunch of adults considering, pondering and debating.

As for more info, the ladies can have all of the info on this guy they want. Details were placed in the alert as much as I can give per rules.

I am also glad I put it in alerts so that he knows the info is out there for the ladies and if he wants to defend himself he can.

I didn't think this thread was ALL about me but clearly some points were.

I'm sorry if it confuses you that I'm saying I am now asking for no envelopes. I think that's pretty clear.

I feel very confident my clients will understand how and why that came to be.

Whispers · 01-03-2011, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by knotty man

and to keep this on topic. max, glad you safe. you go ahead and do your thang! whatever your policy is . if the guy truly wants to see you and respects you he'll follow what you ask for. and if not. im sure with your track record,you wont lack for gents worthy of you time and companionship....

Kissing Maxine's ass is not the topic here.....

Love that last remark though.....

SOME gals ARE rather selective but all it normally takes to be "worthy" of a provider's time and companionship is to have the price of admission.....

Those that are truly "worthy" tend to get time and companionship for free or as the result of being a repeat client.... i don't think too many ladies stop and think, "Ya know... That Wussy Boy never spends money on me but he sure says nice things about me.... Maybe I should go have dinner with him!".... Nope... Just doesn't happen!

Whispers · 01-03-2011, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxeen Monroe

I think it's a bunch of adults considering, pondering and debating.

With some kissing and posing thrown in.....

It just doesn't belong in an alert... An alert should have the facts and any response as well as first hand information...... Someone should not have to wade through pages of crap to get the story.

knotty man · 01-03-2011, 05:29 PM

if you truly feel all it takes to be worthy of her time and companionship is the price of admission....pony up! or shut up! i triple dog dare ya. put your tongue on the frozen pole!!

davidsmith0123 · 01-03-2011, 06:31 PM

There are conventions in many business activities, and they usually have a logical basis. At many restaurants I eat first and then pay for the meal (but not at many BBQ places). My hair gets cut before I pay. On the other hand, I pay before I enjoy the amusement park. And convention is that we provide the envelope to a provider before we enjoy the 'meal'. (Interesting that even in the civvie world, the convention is dinner first.)

There are risks in any transaction, and who bears what risk depends in part on the conventions and in part on other institutional details. At a restaurant if I don't like the meal I might get the management to take a variety of actions to make me less unhappy, but such action is at the management's discretion and is influenced by considerations of reputation and repeat business as well as the specifics of the situation. I could try to refuse paying but the management has recourse to the legal system, making it costly for me to walk without paying. Restaurants bear some risk by waiting for payment, but the risk is attenuated by the legal system.

For a provider, legal recourse is out of the question, making it more important for a provider to ask for payment up front. If a client is unhappy I imagine many quality providers will make some attempt to make it right, to the extent she thinks reasonable and possible given the situation, and again with regard for reputational and repeat business implications. But the lack of legal recourse seems one big reason for the 'envelope first' convention.

While discussing conventions can be interesting, arguing about conventions and trying to change them is often pointless. It takes a lot of market power for an individual to change a market convention.

Whispers · 01-03-2011, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by knotty man

if you truly feel all it takes to be worthy of her time and companionship is the price of admission....pony up! or shut up! i triple dog dare ya. put your tongue on the frozen pole!!

I didn't say her.... You are trying to make this about Maxeen and that is not what it is about... Maybe you should try reading a little and getting someone to help you with the hard parts......

I see plenty of gals.... and spend my money in a slightly different fashion..... But when it comes to "Time and Companionship".. I get plenty of that without having to pay directly for it......

Maybe YOU should pony up and go get laid and you'll find some if it coming your way as a result of spending money rather than kissing ass?

Go see a gal you like a half dozen times in a month you won't have to kiss ass here on the boards...... Get out and meet some people from the community and you'll have people to pay attention to you without needing to be here whining or even having to be shelling out money.....

Or go spend some time with your buddy... ya'll seem to make a good couple....

knotty man · 01-03-2011, 06:38 PM

bwock bwock bwock. someones chicken!! you dont wanna be my buddy!!

Guest031411-2 · 01-03-2011, 06:45 PM

Interestlingly, I have found that not using an envelope lately has made things easier. Just leave the cash in view and with a glance they can tell its all their. Not like using an envelope protects us in anyway. And seriously, except for hobbying, I don't need to keep any plain white envelopes in the house.

I had one mishap several years ago where I had stopped at the atm and split the withdrawal into 2 separate envelopes. Counted the envelopes twice and still ended up giving the lady the smaller (and shorted) envelope. I did, however, the very next day drive the balance due up to her - no, I didn't make her come to me or meet halfway, it was my error. It was incumbent upon me to make it right.

knotty man · 01-03-2011, 06:49 PM

your such a joke, this is comical! i normally got you on ignore but its TFF to watch you try and gather your thoughts only to come back with some lame ass insults. honestly, your mind cant function any better than that. lemme help... how bout you talk about my lil dick, or better yet insult my momma. ohh! i got it!! we start a thread called "your provider is soooooo fat...." i gotta go rack some balls and take dees fools moneys lol

knotty man · 01-03-2011, 06:52 PM

oops sorry mods and maxeen. i forgot this was an alerts forum. just got caught up in the moment. im thru. back on topic!

Whispers · 01-03-2011, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by davidsmith0123

For a provider, legal recourse is out of the question, making it more important for a provider to ask for payment up front. If a client is unhappy I imagine many quality providers will make some attempt to make it right, to the extent she thinks reasonable and possible given the situation, and again with regard for reputational and repeat business implications. But the lack of legal recourse seems one big reason for the 'envelope first' convention.

And that may very well be the "convention" with some here but it is not the norm across the hobby as I've experienced it... But that is not what this thread is about....

While discussing conventions can be interesting, arguing about conventions and trying to change them is often pointless. It takes a lot of market power for an individual to change a market convention.

Amazing that so few seem to get it..... I have no interest in changing any ladies idea about how they do their business..... I pay after..... I recommend guys adopt that practice for their own personal safety.... If I mistakenly see a lady that expects payment up front I thank them for their time and excuse myself.... I've seen hundreds... reviewed OVER 300... I've lost count of how many ladies over the years and I simply never pay up front... never have had to... never will..... So personally.... I don't see it as any "convention" as you state it

This thread is about the inequality of reactions when ladies receive less then expected pay and when men receive less than expected services.....

as well as suggesting Alerts should be limited to the facts surrounding the event...

Whispers · 01-03-2011, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by knotty man

your such a joke, this is comical! i normally got you on ignore but its TFF to watch you try and gather your thoughts only to come back with some lame ass insults. honestly, your mind cant function any better than that. lemme help... how bout you talk about my lil dick, or better yet insult my momma. ohh! i got it!! we start a thread called "your provider is soooooo fat...." i gotta go rack some balls and take dees fools moneys lol

See you at Fast Eddies.... Oh ... wait... Will I know which of the girls you are?.... never mind... someone will point you out I'm sure!.....I think it's gonna get crowded over there... I keep getting texts and one of them said he needed to go just so he could see a "Walking Pussy"

You have a little dick? So do I .. See.... we have that in common..... IF you just had a set of balls under yours we could get along!.....

Whispers · 01-03-2011, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Natalie Reign

::Pats your back:: There, there, darlin'. Everything's going to be alright. Poor baby.

See.... Natalie understand me!

I know she's got a guy in her life but if he ever screws up and pisses her off I'm gonna get her drunk, let her cry on my shoulderand pick up the pieces......

errr... is that.. pick up a piece?....

Actually I might need to try to KEEP her drunk......