NBA in the cici world

[Keyhole Arc Blow]

Originally Posted by Cpalmson

No Blacks Allowed-- i.e. Providers who won't see a "Brother".

I'm one of those "to each their own" types. I don't care if a provider is NBA or not. I just assume she has seen a lot of cock in her life. Who cares what color it was.

I'm an equal opportunity hobbyist when it comes to the ladies; however, for some odd reason, I have yet to meet a lady of color. It isn't for a lack of trying. I know there are several black ladies out there that I want to see. Just haven't been able to work anything out.

Ah ok, for some reason I kept thinking "no black assholes". I always thought shouldn't it be no assholes period?

Might sound bad on my part but since I'm not black NBA hasn't bothered me, I don't really care on way or the other either.

[darkknight]

I'm always amazed at how many people there are who have nothing constructive to add will take the time to point out there are similar threads, like one of those had an answer that everyone agreed on. But almost no one says anything when "does size matter?" or "What's your favorite position" gets asked for the umpteth time, with very similar answers given. Is it that hard to ignore a thread you don't want to talk about but others do?

Anyway civvy life dating is simply a whole different ball of wax. It actually is about who you are attracted too physically and/or emotionally, but whether or not skin color matters tends to be more about how superficial you are in your dating choices. If you are looking for a more serious relationship, physical attributes are probably less of a concern.
In the hobby world it generally boils down to 1) Flat out full blow racism 2) perceived stereotypes that one chooses not to challenge. ie Black guys are always doing... 3)Fear of the unknown. 4)Marketing to clients that will hold seeing black guys against you. 5) Scammers afraid of a beatdown.

The rationalizations i see commonly on these type of threads may have actually occurred on a few rare occasions but for many it's just a ready made excuse, that few will challenge, for those looking to save face.

Most here go out of our way to keep our hobby life and non-hobby life as separate as possible so what you do in you civvy life is probably 180 degrees from what you might do in your hobby life, and visa versa. Escorts are seeing guys they wouldn't talk to OTC, must less do what they do BCD. Hobbyest are not choosing escorts on how well they cook, raise children or emotional support they could provide, but on more superficial traits and BCD activities.

[game1]

Originally Posted by darkknight

I'm always amazed at how many people there are who have nothing constructive to add will take the time to point out there are similar threads, like one of those had an answer that everyone agreed on. But almost no one says anything when "does size matter?" or "What's your favorite position" gets asked for the umpteth time, with very similar answers given. Is it that hard to ignore a thread you don't want to talk about but others do?

Anyway civvy life dating is simply a whole different ball of wax. It actually is about who you are attracted too physically and/or emotionally, but whether or not skin color matters tends to be more about how superficial you are in your dating choices. If you are looking for a more serious relationship, physical attributes are probably less of a concern.
In the hobby world it generally boils down to 1) Flat out full blow racism 2) perceived stereotypes that one chooses not to challenge. ie Black guys are always doing... 3)Fear of the unknown. 4)Marketing to clients that will hold seeing black guys against you. 5) Scammers afraid of a beatdown.

The rationalizations i see commonly on these type of threads may have actually occurred on a few rare occasions but for many it's just a ready made excuse, that few will challenge, for those looking to save face.

Most here go out of our way to keep our hobby life and non-hobby life as separate as possible so what you do in you civvy life is probably 180 degrees from what you might do in your hobby life, and visa versa. Escorts are seeing guys they wouldn't talk to OTC, must less do what they do BCD. Hobbyest are not choosing escorts on how well they cook, raise children or emotional support they could provide, but on more superficial traits and BCD activities.

Not only do I agree in what you said, but in non hobby life, people are more willing to get to know each other, where as in hobby life you really can't, so some lean toward some of the things said.

[rcinokc]

Originally Posted by Brooke Wild

Because NBA hoes are pimped and cannot talk to any other black man other then daddy ...

Or they plan on giving shitty service and know a black man will fuck a bitch up and cause a scene while a nice professional white man will just leave and cut his losses ...

Or because they plan on doing a cash and dash and they know bubba will fuck their ass up behind $200 bucks while the white man will just be "thankful' he made it out of there alive.

There are many reasons girls are NBA and you can bet for damn sure 99% of them don't have a damn thing to do with not actually "liking" black men or not being attracted to black men as they claim .. most NBA hoes are fucking plenty of black dick for free.

A few months ago I rented my place out for all star in Houston and I wanted to check out the guy who was going to rent it (he was a rapper) so I found my way to his instagram page and I damn near spit my soda all over the screen when I saw 5 or 6 well know eccie providers all over him and his crew (all of them were NBA providers and work together out of Dallas, but travel all the time) ... one even started a thread on this matter swearing that she didnt see back men only because she was not attracted to them and wants to ensure she gave her clients her all ... yeah right ... she was SURE attracted to black men in these pictures. I'd post some from the instagram account here but I think that would be considered outting.

Originally Posted by JohnnyCap

perhaps...

its a way of saying to the old affluent racist, pay me daddy, my pussy is free of black dick

but there really isnt anything behind it, any black man that asks politely gets in too

These are probably as close as you will ever get to the truth.

[Jewish Lawyer]

Since only about 1% of white men are rich and/or powerful, and the rest of us have to work for a living like everyone else, NBA policies are probably mostly anti-black rather than pro-white. Everyone in our society has been sufficiently trained to never be pro-white, anyway, except for racists, which everyone knows they are supposed to hate.

[Guest110516]

Originally Posted by darkknight

I'm always amazed at how many people there are who have nothing constructive to add will take the time to point out there are similar threads, like one of those had an answer that everyone agreed on. But almost no one says anything when "does size matter?" or "What's your favorite position" gets asked for the umpteth time, with very similar answers given. Is it that hard to ignore a thread you don't want to talk about but others do?

The rationalizations i see commonly on these type of threads may have actually occurred on a few rare occasions but for many it's just a ready made excuse, that few will challenge, for those looking to save face.

I've commented about those other threads (e.g. does size matter), but not about their frequency. Others have commented about their frequency.

My problem with this thread is that when a provider gives an answer, it is generally dismissed as not real or as an excuse/rationalization. The only "real" answers that seem to be acceptable are, "I'm a racist" or "My pimp doesn't allow it." Maybe, the criteria for a real answer need to be revealed.

[darkknight]

Originally Posted by emptywallet

I've commented about those other threads (e.g. does size matter), but not about their frequency. Others have commented about their frequency.

My problem with this thread is that when a provider gives an answer, it is generally dismissed as not real or as an excuse/rationalization. The only "real" answers that seem to be acceptable are, "I'm a racist" or "My pimp doesn't allow it." Maybe, the criteria for a real answer need to be revealed.

In a world of fantasy "real answers" are a rare thing. Doesn't mean it not worth having the discussion. If you don't have the discussion you are never going to get any answers. Whether or not it's the one you want to hear or one that you accept.

The problem I have with the "Oh, not this again" response is that it is dismissive to the person asking the question and to anyone who does want to discuss the subject. And I mean that for any topic not just this one.

This topic in particular is not one that affect everyone so not everyone will feel the need to chime in, not even all those who are affected will chime in but those who wish too talk about shouldn't be made to feel their concerns aren't worth discussing anymore.

The biggest problem with this type of thread is few can remain civil in the discussion. One troll will light the fire then it all heads down hill with name calling and slurs. If you can ignore the flaming trolls you may be able to have an adult conversation about a touchy topic.

And it's not like everyone takes peoples answers to other topics as gospel truth. Some will be honest, some will rationalize, some will flat out lie a few will even convince themselves of their own lies, just like on most topics here.

Look no one here is going to solve this problem ( or very many of the other problems involving this lifestyle). Providers that truly are racist most likely won't ever change, others may if they stop an think about why they are making this decision, so whether you get "real" or "BS' answers it at least it give you something to think about, if you aren't afraid to think about it. Maybe that gets you a step closer to an acceptable answer. Maybe not. Maybe you get someone to rethink their views for the better.

[LNK]

Originally Posted by darkknight

The problem I have with the "Oh, not this again" response is that it is dismissive to the person asking the question and to anyone who does want to discuss the subject. And I mean that for any topic not just this one.<snip>

The problem I have with this type of thread is that, even when brought back in a moderate, thoughtful tone, it never does go anywhere, and nearly always does devolve into a pissing/flaming match, and no real answers are discovered. Ignoring for the moment that there already is a designated sticky for this exact discussion.

I believe it's possible that someone will come along and say, "I've read all 2000+ replies in the NBA Superthread, here are some original thoughts on the subject, discuss." And the chances of that happening are about as low as you might guess. I read enough of the NBA Superthread to know that there was discussion of civvy vs. hobby life.

I'm not dismissing the OP, I'm dismissing the chance of any really new, original thoughts/ideas/positions/whatever coming out of this.

This and other lightning rod topics are exactly the same. Don't believe me? Go start a thread on an audiophile board about how much better tubes are than solid state. Or vice versa, makes no difference. Provide completely new, well-thought-out subjective and/or objective proof for your position. Then duck, FAST!

Originally Posted by darkknight

In a world of fantasy "real answers" are a rare thing. Doesn't mean it not worth having the discussion. If you don't have the discussion you are never going to get any answers. Whether or not it's the one you want to hear or one that you accept.

See above. There aren't any "answers". It just devolves, eventually, then gets appended to the Superthread.

Which is where the OP should really have posted his OP, because people who do want to keep discussing the topic all look for new posts on the subject there.

And yes, I know I didn't have to click on it. Comes from being a mod, and knowing that people don't want to post in a sticky, they want their very own thread. And while I haven't posted to it, nor read the whole thing, I do keep watch from the corner of one jaded eye on the Superthread.

[darkknight]

Originally Posted by LNK

This and other lightning rod topics are exactly the same. Don't believe me? Go start a thread on an audiophile board about how much better tubes are than solid state. Or vice versa, makes no difference. Provide completely new, well-thought-out subjective and/or objective proof for your position. Then duck, FAST!



See above. There aren't any "answers". It just devolves, eventually, then gets appended to the Superthread.

Yes I've long known that internet forums are a poor arena for intelligent debate. But that's another topic itself. I take part of the blame. My minor observation is becoming focus of this thread which wasn't the intent. Though I did address the original topic in my first post, so I hope the discussion can get back on topic, even if it's just briefly.

[Guest110516]

Originally Posted by darkknight

In a world of fantasy "real answers" are a rare thing. Doesn't mean it not worth having the discussion. If you don't have the discussion you are never going to get any answers. Whether or not it's the one you want to hear or one that you accept.

The problem I have with the "Oh, not this again" response is that it is dismissive to the person asking the question and to anyone who does want to discuss the subject. And I mean that for any topic not just this one.

This topic in particular is not one that affect everyone so not everyone will feel the need to chime in, not even all those who are affected will chime in but those who wish too talk about shouldn't be made to feel their concerns aren't worth discussing anymore.

I agree the topic is worth discussing, and I think real answers were provided in that other thread (the thread starter here did not). That's why that other thread was made into a sticky thread. The topic can be discussed there ad infinitum, and it always stays on the first page. I think this thread has two faulty premises: 1) that real answers were not provided in that other thread and 2) that this thread differs significantly from that other thread.

[Guest022315]

Originally Posted by darkknight

I'm always amazed at how many people there are who have nothing constructive to add will take the time to point out there are similar threads, like one of those had an answer that everyone agreed on. But almost no one says anything when "does size matter?" or "What's your favorite position" gets asked for the umpteth time, with very similar answers given. Is it that hard to ignore a thread you don't want to talk about but others do?

Anyway civvy life dating is simply a whole different ball of wax. It actually is about who you are attracted too physically and/or emotionally, but whether or not skin color matters tends to be more about how superficial you are in your dating choices. If you are looking for a more serious relationship, physical attributes are probably less of a concern.
In the hobby world it generally boils down to 1) Flat out full blow racism 2) perceived stereotypes that one chooses not to challenge. ie Black guys are always doing... 3)Fear of the unknown. 4)Marketing to clients that will hold seeing black guys against you. 5) Scammers afraid of a beatdown.

The rationalizations i see commonly on these type of threads may have actually occurred on a few rare occasions but for many it's just a ready made excuse, that few will challenge, for those looking to save face.

Most here go out of our way to keep our hobby life and non-hobby life as separate as possible so what you do in you civvy life is probably 180 degrees from what you might do in your hobby life, and visa versa. Escorts are seeing guys they wouldn't talk to OTC, must less do what they do BCD. Hobbyest are not choosing escorts on how well they cook, raise children or emotional support they could provide, but on more superficial traits and BCD activities.

Actually it is covered in the super thread which is why this is a beaten to death topic. The OP was just lazy no big deal

[game1]

Whether someone thinks it's covered or not, most don't seem to have a problem repeating bbfs super threads, or the rate discussion, what for some reason there's a problem with this. And I don't think things were covered, it was more of an arguement than a civil conversation, most of it based on stereotyping in the super thread. But also this topic is a little different, I think ( and I don't want to put words in the op mouth or misinterpret his meaning) but it is more about the life outside the hobby.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by game1

Whether someone thinks it's covered or not, most don't seem to have a problem repeating bbfs super threads, or the rate discussion, what for some reason there's a problem with this. And I don't think things were covered, it was more of an arguement than a civil conversation, most of it based on stereotyping in the super thread. But also this topic is a little different, I think ( and I don't want to put words in the op mouth or misinterpret his meaning) but it is more about the life outside the hobby.

Agree on all counts. And it's nice to see this one stay more of a conversation than an argument.

[Guest110516]

Originally Posted by game1

Whether someone thinks it's covered or not, most don't seem to have a problem repeating bbfs super threads, or the rate discussion, what for some reason there's a problem with this. And I don't think things were covered, it was more of an arguement than a civil conversation, most of it based on stereotyping in the super thread. But also this topic is a little different, I think ( and I don't want to put words in the op mouth or misinterpret his meaning) but it is more about the life outside the hobby.

I agree with you and darkknight that we should be equally dismissive (or not dismissive) of all redundant threads (i.e. threads that are covered in super/sticky threads).

I don't know. This kinda brings it right back to the other thread...

Originally Posted by buzzworm86

...but white women will date men of color in the civi world, what is the big deal about the "provider" world....I just want to know what happens in the provider world that has many providers with the signs (NBA)...let's try to find out "what gives" in the civi world and why the NBA in the hobbie?

Doesn't sound like a focus on the civi world to me.

[Randall Creed]

Big, thick, long, hard [and sometimes bare] black cock sliding into tight, wet white, barely accommodating pussy, leaving thick gooey cum oozing out is an image many guys in the hobby DO NOT want to picture. Well, maybe if it's a handsome, well established, civil black man with an average to small dick...it MIGHT be somewhat acceptable. But when it's BBC from a big, strong, bubba-lipped, 'Willie T' from the ghetto, who just got out the pen last week, tearing up little 'Amy', who's never had anything over 4", with a look of mild (or not so mild) discomfort on her face, that's an image that might send them into a hulking out fit. OR if she looks like she's enjoying it, that may be even worse.

It'd be one thing if this was your niece or daughter in this business and you feeling some kind of way about it. But we're all adults and, outside of one of two of us, none of us have any relatives in this business. Who really cares who others are banging? They don't belong to you.