The GOP vote to eat their own

[eyecu2]

Quite honestly Berry I didn't post in the sandbox a whole lot earlier. I never thought burning anything down is ok. I understand that the frustration of civil unrest usually bubbles out and sometimes riots happen. They ain't good, but they do happen. Ppl who act out, no matter the reason, need to be held accountable so that innocent people who are harmed are not only at others mercy. As far Ashley is concerned, I don't know exactly how far away she was from the person who shot her, but she was not supposed to be there, and paid the ultimate price for that. Also that person was not convicted of a wrongful shooting so there is that. I don't like that she was shot and am actually you all aren't more concerned that MORE ppl were not shot. When ppl break into the chamber and glass is breaking, and your a person with a gun there to protect the members, it's sorta amazing more of that didn't happen.

Not happy with any riots or ppl being hurt or shit being burned.

[bambino]

Cheney and Kinsinger will be out of politics in November. They did it to themselves

[chizzy]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

Quite honestly Berry I didn't post in the sandbox a whole lot earlier. I never thought burning anything down is ok. I understand that the frustration of civil unrest usually bubbles out and sometimes riots happen. They ain't good, but they do happen. Ppl who act out, no matter the reason, need to be held accountable so that innocent people who are harmed are not only at others mercy. As far Ashley is concerned, I don't know exactly how far away she was from the person who shot her, but she was not supposed to be there, and paid the ultimate price for that. Also that person was not convicted of a wrongful shooting so there is that. I don't like that she was shot and am actually you all aren't more concerned that MORE ppl were not shot. When ppl break into the chamber and glass is breaking, and your a person with a gun there to protect the members, it's sorta amazing more of that didn't happen.

Not happy with any riots or ppl being hurt or shit being burned.

my handle is chizzy

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by chizzy

my handle is chizzy

Sorry Chizzy. Apologies brov

[Jacuzzme]

As far Ashley is concerned, I don't know exactly how far away she was from the person who shot her, but she was not supposed to be there, and paid the ultimate price for that.

So we can shoot someone just for being somewhere they shouldn’t (the definition of trespassing) now, IYO? Can you imagine how many dead blm marauders there would’ve been last summer by that standard?

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

So we can shoot someone just for being somewhere they shouldn’t (the definition of trespassing) now, IYO? Can you imagine how many dead blm marauders there would’ve been last summer by that standard?

That depends on where you are and which set of laws apply. Whether there was fear or honest presumptions.

[Jacuzzme]

So do a bunch of animals bashing in windows to get in and loot a footlocker qualify? Clearly someone locked inside would fear for their life, so opening up on them before they get through the window should be perfectly acceptable.

[HDGristle]

Animals don't qualify as people to be looters. Are we talking about people acting as looters?

Consult the laws in the relevant jurisdiction

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Animals don't qualify as people to be looters. Are we talking about people acting as looters?

Consult the laws in the relevant jurisdiction

... Crikey! ... you slipped out of that question quicker
than Matumbu the King Brown. ... uh... a snake.

And IF one o' those wild deers around here crashes
thru me window - maybe I have to shoot him.

But, a person? ... surely won't do them much harm
until I see if they brought any beer with them.

#### Salty

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

As far Ashley is concerned, I don't know exactly how far away she was from the person who shot her, but she was not supposed to be there, and paid the ultimate price for that. Also that person was not convicted of a wrongful shooting so there is that.

You do realize of course she was posing no danger to the coward who shot her. There was a barrier between them, and she brandished no weapon. She actually was trying to stop some people from committing vandalism.

And the fact that the coward who shot her was not convicted is a joke. There was no real investigation. No trial. Nothing. The Capitol Police and the libtards wanted to sweep it under the rug after "an internal investigation"

Of course Ashley was white and the officer black. Imagine if the races were reversed and Ashley was black and the officer white. We would have had Black Lives Matter morons burning down cities, rioting and looting for months on end.

If you want to read a balanced view of her shooting, read this

https://www.lawfareblog.com/evaluati...-ashli-babbitt

"We are scholars who have studied policing for a combined four decades and experts in police tactics and the use of force who have testified in state and federal courts, and we’ve noticed legal and factual complexities that have gone largely unacknowledged. Applying the typical legal framework, we have serious reservations about the propriety of the shooting. "

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

So do a bunch of animals bashing in windows to get in and loot a footlocker qualify? Clearly someone locked inside would fear for their life, so opening up on them before they get through the window should be perfectly acceptable.

I think that if you were a footlocker employee and someone broke in to steal, you'd be justified to shoot them if you were in fear of harm. But I'd also say that they instruck employees to not get physical with thieves just like corporate owned stores let that occur. They don't want shootouts at stores over a pair of shoes or a Slurpee. But in the case of Babbitt, I imagine she was acting in such a way that it was seen as threatening. Don't want to get shot? Don't stand in front of a gun. Don't be in a place that has armed guards and locked doors, and then wonder how the fuck did that happen!!?? The same way Rittenhouse was able to defend himself, that guard felt threats to himself or others, and acted. He was found not guilty of any crimes by a judge.

Moral of the story-Break-in and think you are gonna be by sheer numbers bullet-proof & find out what might happen. Probably not a good idea.

[Chase7]

I’ll be donating to Harriet Hagerman to help defeat Cheney

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by Chase7

I’ll be donating to Harriet Hagerman to help defeat Cheney

LOTS of people will.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by bambino

Cheney and Kinsinger will be out of politics in November. They did it to themselves

Bam - and they both know it too and are on a revenge mission - all the more reason they deserved to be censured

Hell read this:

Liz Cheney Snubs Voters To Mingle With Reporters Instead, Calling Constituents ‘Crazies’

https://thefederalist.com/2022/02/09...uents-crazies/

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

Ashley Babbitt was one of those people, and while it's sad that she was shot, it was her actions that caused that.

What a SHAM - do you support this SHAM investigation?

"Cop Who Killed Ashli Babbitt Never Interviewed By Investigators, Now Back In Charge Of House Security"

Byrd then answered a series of questions by Holt about the shooting, but what he told the friendly journalist he likely never told investigators. That’s because he refused to answer their questions, according to several sources and documents reviewed by RealClearInvestigations.

In fact, investigators cleared Byrd of wrongdoing in the shooting without actually interviewing him about the shooting or threatening him with punishment if he did not cooperate with their criminal investigation.

“He didn’t provide any statement to [criminal] investigators and they didn’t push him to make a statement,” Babbitt family attorney Terry Roberts said in an RCI interview. “It’s astonishing how skimpy his investigative file is.”

Roberts, who has spoken with the D.C. MPD detective assigned to the case, said the kid-glove treatment of Byrd raises suspicions the investigation was a “whitewash.” The lawyer’s account appears to be backed up by a January 2021 internal affairs report, which notes Byrd “declined to provide a statement,” D.C. MPD documents show.

Asked about it, a D.C. MPD spokeswoman confirmed that Byrd did not cooperate with internal affairs agents or FBI agents, who jointly investigated what was one of the most high-profile officer-involved shooting cases in U.S. history.

“MPD did not formally interview Lt. Byrd,” deputy D.C. MPD communications director Kristen Metzger said. And, “He didn’t give a statement while under the U.S. Attorney’s Office investigation.”

https://thefederalist.com/2022/01/12...ow-walks-free/