State all options on menu or no?

[Ivy Chick]

Originally Posted by burkalini

Love the chocolate on your showcase though

Thank you. Its one of my favorites!

[White Tiger]

The more information, the better. I don't always look for things like Greek, CIM, etc., but when I'm in that frame of mind, I search for it. If it's not listed somewhere, say in the review, then I'll miss you. On the other hand, I'm like charlestudor--if I really think I want to see a certain provider, I do the research, reviews, other sites, hobby buddies, etc. It's particularly important to know what to expect for those of us who hobby when we travel a lot, like me, because we don't know the local market and usually don't have contacts there.

[HoneyRose]

Originally Posted by Cpalmson

What does listing activities have to do with LE? They already know you are providing an illegal service, so listing menu items doesn't help them any more.

Being an escort isn't an illegal service. Ads for escorts are even accepted in the telephone yellow pages.

The telephone book doesn't accept ads for illegal services (drugs for sale; hit men for hire; prostitution).

Some ladies even put disclaimers on their sites saying "Compensation is for my time only. Anything that happens between consenting adults is our own choice." or something like that.

Anyway, I certainly am not advertising any illegal services!

[London Rayne]

Well said Honey.

Actually yea it does tend to make more of a case in a court of law C man lol. Reviews are FICTION, and that is why they are housed on boards that don't take any responsibility for what's in them.

Putting a link to them is a hell of a lot better than having them word for word on a website...you are basically admitting and taking credit for them by doing that.

[London Rayne]

Originally Posted by Cpalmson

What does listing activities have to do with LE? They already know you are providing an illegal service, so listing menu items doesn't help them any more.

I do agree that reviews are the best way to get info-- especially to verify what is advertised. I also think it is appropriate for providers to discuss what can be expected, but I think it is okay to go to the R rated version

I'm sorry but you are wrong hon. If I get an email asking about what I offer in explicit detail, it will not be responded to...period. Admitting what you are doing before the guy even gets there is just plain stupid! Nothing on the internet is 100 percent secure...including these pms you guys think no one sees lol.

You are raising a red flag with most providers if you do so, but I digress. Even if she tells you "Yes" to everything you are asking about, she can still not provide it when you get there lol. What is the use of having an admition of guilt on record to boot? Just because she says greek is on the menu does not mean you will get it....it is always YMMV!

[Chica Chaser]

Originally Posted by Cpalmson

What does listing activities have to do with LE? They already know you are providing an illegal service, so listing menu items doesn't help them any more.

It has a lot more to do with the DA; to help make the case against the Provider. LE can target anyone they like and make an arrest. Its the DA that has to prove the case and a personal website, with explicit activities listed, goes a long way towards helping them.

To the original question, It doesn't matter to me if specific activities are listed or not. I may be very interested in seeing you but before you ever received a call from me I would already know what you do; from reviews, P411 and any back channel info I could obtain. In fact if you DO list specific activities on your site, I would probably rule you out for being too careless and/or non-discreet.

[Guest011914-1]

what I provide is between two consenting adults the donation is for my time and travel..nothing immoral..wicked grin

Originally Posted by Cpalmson

What does listing activities have to do with LE? They already know you are providing an illegal service, so listing menu items doesn't help them any more.

I do agree that reviews are the best way to get info-- especially to verify what is advertised. I also think it is appropriate for providers to discuss what can be expected, but I think it is okay to go to the R rated version

[Memory757]

Originally Posted by London Rayne

I'm sorry but you are wrong hon. If I get an email asking about what I offer in explicit detail, it will not be responded to...period. Admitting what you are doing before the guy even gets there is just plain stupid! Nothing on the internet is 100 percent secure...including these pms you guys think no one sees lol.

You are raising a red flag with most providers if you do so, but I digress. Even if she tells you "Yes" to everything you are asking about, she can still not provide it when you get there lol. What is the use of having an admition of guilt on record to boot? Just because she says greek is on the menu does not mean you will get it....it is always YMMV!

i agree with you on this. when i get explict emails or calls they result in deletion and a spot on my banned list.

[pjpenner]

I fully understand why a provider may feel very uncomfortable (for any number of reasons) by openly posting a menu of services. That's why I take a completely different approach ... even when there are sufficient reviews for me to make a preliminary judgment.

I email a Letter of Introduction of myself to the provider after I've made an initial contact. The Letter of Introduction includes my complete contact information, my P411 or RS2K verification data, recent provider references, my photo, some personal information, and my preferences and/or expectations of activities and the type of experience I enjoy. Though I'm a fanatic on discretion and privacy, I've discovered that providing complete information upfront to the provider without her having to beg for it (or spend a lot of time in research) has its own set of rewards.

I ask the provider to read and review the letter carefully and let me know if she thinks we will be compatible. I don't schedule an appointment until I receive her response.

This process has worked well for me. That being said, I understand this process may not be suitable for some gents or providers.

[burkalini]

Originally Posted by pjpenner

I fully understand why a provider may feel very uncomfortable (for any number of reasons) by openly posting a menu of services. That's why I take a completely different approach ... even when there are sufficient reviews for me to make a preliminary judgment.

I email a Letter of Introduction of myself to the provider after I've made an initial contact. The Letter of Introduction includes my complete contact information, my P411 or RS2K verification data, recent provider references, my photo, some personal information, and my preferences and/or expectations of activities and the type of experience I enjoy. Though I'm a fanatic on discretion and privacy, I've discovered that providing complete information upfront to the provider without her having to beg for it (or spend a lot of time in research) has its own set of rewards.

I ask the provider to read and review the letter carefully and let me know if she thinks we will be compatible. I don't schedule an appointment until I receive her response.

This process has worked well for me. That being said, I understand this process may not be suitable for some gents or providers.

Don't really want all that info laying out there in email. Who knows who is reading that. The net is not secure

[geck]

Originally Posted by Memory757

I think that le would be more likely to go after a provider who has everything under the sun listed then a provider who has none. its just more to build a case on i think, whether you speak of it or not.

i think reviews would be more safer and more accurate. that way the client knows from others what to expect. because as someone previously stated someone can say they will do everything but when they get there you get nothing like you expected.

Being very new to this, I initially appreciated the listings on the sites, but am finding myself paying more attention to the reviews. As a newbie, I don't think I'll be starting with providers unless they have several reviews.

I might imagine a new provider might need a list to get started, but then could drop it and just refer potentials clients to reviews.

I want to know what I'll get (or won't get). Having given it some thought, email might be a better way of verifying services. Nothing has been exchanged, so it may be better than doing it in person (?).

[JadeNow]

I DON'T list my menu items, but my reviews are EVERYWHERE!
If someone really wants to know, there are ways of finding out.
It has NOT limited me, I work as much as I want to.
I have been in business long enough to have a regular client base, and too many reviews to list.
I do try to keep current links on my site, but sometimes I can't keep up. I travel a lot, too...so you know what I mean.
I think once you've earned a reputation, it follows you, and men recommend you, etc. IMHO, it's not necessary to list menu items somewhere ANYONE can read them. I know reviews are able to be read on most sites by ANYONE, BUT, I DID NOT WRITE THOSE REVIEWS. Get the difference?
Best of luck to you out there!

[Memory757]

Originally Posted by pjpenner

I fully understand why a provider may feel very uncomfortable (for any number of reasons) by openly posting a menu of services. That's why I take a completely different approach ... even when there are sufficient reviews for me to make a preliminary judgment.

I email a Letter of Introduction of myself to the provider after I've made an initial contact. The Letter of Introduction includes my complete contact information, my P411 or RS2K verification data, recent provider references, my photo, some personal information, and my preferences and/or expectations of activities and the type of experience I enjoy. Though I'm a fanatic on discretion and privacy, I've discovered that providing complete information upfront to the provider without her having to beg for it (or spend a lot of time in research) has its own set of rewards.

I ask the provider to read and review the letter carefully and let me know if she thinks we will be compatible. I don't schedule an appointment until I receive her response.

This process has worked well for me. That being said, I understand this process may not be suitable for some gents or providers.

You sound like a providers dream for all clients. But for the clients safety since the net is not safe is to makse sure that the provider has reviews before sending that type of message.

[Max Rax]

I like to list options for my clients.

[geck]

Originally Posted by pjpenner

I fully understand why a provider may feel very uncomfortable (for any number of reasons) by openly posting a menu of services. That's why I take a completely different approach ... even when there are sufficient reviews for me to make a preliminary judgment.

I email a Letter of Introduction of myself to the provider after I've made an initial contact. The Letter of Introduction includes my complete contact information, my P411 or RS2K verification data, recent provider references, my photo, some personal information, and my preferences and/or expectations of activities and the type of experience I enjoy. Though I'm a fanatic on discretion and privacy, I've discovered that providing complete information upfront to the provider without her having to beg for it (or spend a lot of time in research) has its own set of rewards.

I ask the provider to read and review the letter carefully and let me know if she thinks we will be compatible. I don't schedule an appointment until I receive her response.

This process has worked well for me. That being said, I understand this process may not be suitable for some gents or providers.

I'd like to know what other providers feel about this. Would you prefer to get a detailed email?