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Old 05-31-2022, 03:06 PM   #16
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Yet the rage whining will continue until they find every one of the 3,000,000 illegal votes that Clinton beat Trump’s cartoon ass with.

And then they’ll all be fake too.

The only bigger fool than the fool is the fool who follows him. No fooling!
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Old 05-31-2022, 03:34 PM   #17
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Actually Muller is way ahead of Durham on the conviction count.

Trumps personal lawyer. His Campaign manger. Mike Flynn....or did Trump pardon him before he got convicted!

If you boys want a objective take on the truth....I suggest you quit listening to DJT.
... We KNOW what the truth is, mate.
And so do you. ... You know what happened here.

... Trump - at least - got plain honesty on his side.

Hillary, the Media, the Democrats, and the FBI don't.

And that's the difference.

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Old 05-31-2022, 03:52 PM   #18
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... Trump - at least - got plain honesty on his side.
And the biggest dummy on ECCIE is Saltynutz. You sir are an idiot to believe a single word from Trump and Trumpys.
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Old 05-31-2022, 04:29 PM   #19
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And the biggest dummy on ECCIE is Saltynutz. You sir are an idiot to believe a single word from Trump and Trumpys.
Salty's a wise man, but he's definitely got a blind spot for Trump. He thinks he doesn't cheat at golf!
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Old 05-31-2022, 04:40 PM   #20
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Salty's a wise man, but he's definitely got a blind spot for Trump. He thinks he doesn't cheat at golf!
He actually believes Trump promise that he'll only put the tip in....over and over and over again!
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Old 05-31-2022, 05:20 PM   #21
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The culprit here is Durham.

If he is so naive, or stupid, to seat a Jury like this, he deserves to get his ass kicked.

The system has spoken.

Durham just went from “the Enforcer” to “cocktail party joke” with two words………NOT GUILTY.
Nothing matters when criminals run the country.
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Old 05-31-2022, 05:48 PM   #22
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Salty may be completely gone.

"Good evening Mr. Epps. If any of your team is caught or captured, we will disavow any knowledge of your actions."
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Old 05-31-2022, 05:50 PM   #23
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Nothing matters when criminals run the country.
2016 to 2020
then pardons
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Old 05-31-2022, 06:35 PM   #24
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Nothing matters when criminals run the country.
Do you Trumpers ever admit defeat?

If you read the evidence needed for a guilty conviction, you'd realize that Durham never should have brought charges.

But I suspect had he not brought charges you'd be crying about Durham in cahoots with the deep state.
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Do you Trumpers ever admit defeat?

If you read the evidence needed for a guilty conviction, you'd realize that Durham never should have brought charges.

But I suspect had he not brought charges you'd be crying about Durham in cahoots with the deep state.
Everyone in Politics is Deep State to some degree or another even Trump. If you think there are Heroes in Politics then you're crazy.
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A lot of crooks, but possibly no one did it better than Tom Delay
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Old 05-31-2022, 09:42 PM   #27
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... We KNOW what the truth is, mate.
And so do you. ... You know what happened here.

... Trump - at least - got plain honesty on his side.

Hillary, the Media, the Democrats, and the FBI don't.

And that's the difference.

### Salty
.... Wouldja look at that!

Surely must o' struck a nerve with you lads.
Who again must twist and contort your-selves to
swallow whatever honesty and pride you once had
to again cover for the Dems and the Media.

What's it like to have to come here each day - and tell
us that Joe Biden is doing a good job - and all the
high inflation and petrol-gas prices are Trump's fault??

And that Hillary did nothing wrong with lying to
the FBI about Trump and Alfa Bank and Russian collusion?
('Course it surely seem the FBI was "in on it".)

While you tell us that parents have no right to question
what teachers wanna teach to the joeys.

And that it's okay that BLM and Antifa burned down citys
and townes - and police houses and cars. Mostly peaceful protests.

... Really? ... What's it like to support those things??

I'd surely like to know. 'Cause it's NOT what I support.
And nor do the other conservatives here.

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Old 05-31-2022, 09:43 PM   #28
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I pride myself on being a pretty good law layman, having never been to law school kinda guy but this one has me stumped.


Everybody knows Sussman lied but "was it material to the case"? Huh? Yeap. that's the explanation I keep hearing.


Two facets to the case they say must be met. Did he lie? Yes he did. Was it material to the case? I guess fucking not but then this jury could have rendered it's verdict in 5 minutes on the first day.


Polls suggest that 95 of the people eligible to sit on that jury, supported Hillary. Hell, one juror has a kid playing on the same soccer team as Sussman's kid. WTF? Surely Durhams lawyer must have run out of peremptory strikes during voir dire.


So I'm listening to a couple of my favorite "go to guys" on this stuff, Johnathon Turley and Andrew McCarthy and both found fault with Durham. I'm still trying to figure all this out but McCarthy suggests that it all comes back to Durham "believing that the FBI was duped" instead of "being it on it from the get go". Excuse me? How the fuck could anybody believe, with all that we know about Comey's FBI, that they didn't know this was all bullshit and were not duped but here was their chance to make something out of nothing.


So I guess my question is, "how is being duped" helpful to Sussman and why the hell was his lie "not material" to the case.


Various legal minds are arguing tonight that Durham, while not getting the win, got plenty of information on the record regarding Hillary giving the thumbs up on giving this made up bullshit, to the FBI and media, straight from the mouth of her campaign directer Robbie Mook.


Next up, some Russian guy who lied 5 times to the FBI about the Steele dossier. Maybe that is what it will take, 5 lies instead of one.


Anyway, this will all come in handy when Jim Jordan cranks up the investigations in the house next year.
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Old 06-01-2022, 07:07 AM   #29
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I pride myself on being a pretty good law layman, having never been to law school kinda guy but this one has me stumped.


Everybody knows Sussman lied but "was it material to the case"? Huh? Yeap. that's the explanation I keep hearing.


Two facets to the case they say must be met. Did he lie? Yes he did. Was it material to the case? I guess fucking not but then this jury could have rendered it's verdict in 5 minutes on the first day.


Polls suggest that 95 of the people eligible to sit on that jury, supported Hillary. Hell, one juror has a kid playing on the same soccer team as Sussman's kid. WTF? Surely Durhams lawyer must have run out of peremptory strikes during voir dire.


So I'm listening to a couple of my favorite "go to guys" on this stuff, Johnathon Turley and Andrew McCarthy and both found fault with Durham. I'm still trying to figure all this out but McCarthy suggests that it all comes back to Durham "believing that the FBI was duped" instead of "being it on it from the get go". Excuse me? How the fuck could anybody believe, with all that we know about Comey's FBI, that they didn't know this was all bullshit and were not duped but here was their chance to make something out of nothing.


So I guess my question is, "how is being duped" helpful to Sussman and why the hell was his lie "not material" to the case.


Various legal minds are arguing tonight that Durham, while not getting the win, got plenty of information on the record regarding Hillary giving the thumbs up on giving this made up bullshit, to the FBI and media, straight from the mouth of her campaign directer Robbie Mook.


Next up, some Russian guy who lied 5 times to the FBI about the Steele dossier. Maybe that is what it will take, 5 lies instead of one.


Anyway, this will all come in handy when Jim Jordan cranks up the investigations in the house next year.
good post

the top of the doj and fbi were not dissimilar to the jury

all corrupted by their own desires
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Old 06-01-2022, 07:23 AM   #30
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Everyone in Politics is Deep State to some degree or another even Trump. If you think there are Heroes in Politics then you're crazy.
I never said there were heroes in politics.

And I agree....that includes Trump.

I've never understood his supporters thinking he was some heroic politician. He just another politician.
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