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04-12-2022, 11:22 AM
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Are you sure you ever served? .[/QUOTE]
I will give you a chance to take that back before I say “fuck you”.
I didn’t get drug off to Vietnam and damned near get my legs blown off in a useless god damned war to have to put up with a comment like that.
That being said, I agree with most of what you said.
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04-12-2022, 12:03 PM
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I didn’t get drug off to Vietnam and damned near get my legs blown off in a useless god damned war to have to put up with a comment like that.
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Then you should have more sense than expecting mano a mano arm wrestling.
logistically the Ukraines are fcuked. The Country will effectively cease to exist because the Polish border crossings cannot import the volume of goods that traveled into Ukraine via the Black sea. They are fcuked, I say again, are fcuked.
Logistics is what determines winner/loser in war. Every war, this won't be the exception.
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04-13-2022, 09:58 AM
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I gave you 24 hours to think about it, so I guess you would rather stick to your comment rather than admit your error.
So, fuck you.
Now we can get back to discussing political events.
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04-13-2022, 10:30 AM
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If you use Avogadros # THAt would be huge : A mole is defined as 6.02214076 × 1023.
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04-13-2022, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by texassapper
Then you should have more sense than expecting mano a mano arm wrestling.
logistically the Ukraines are fcuked. The Country will effectively cease to exist because the Polish border crossings cannot import the volume of goods that traveled into Ukraine via the Black sea. They are fcuked, I say again, are fcuked.
Logistics is what determines winner/loser in war. Every war, this won't be the exception.
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... Maybe you shoulda apologised, mate.
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04-17-2022, 06:02 AM
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Whoop! Day it is
Welp.. so now we have strategically made the decision to spend billions of our tax dollars - check that, our kids, grand kids and great grand kids tax dollars, to protect Ukraine's boarders (while our own remains wide the hell open, mind you) and all we ask in return is some vague IOUs from one of the most corrupt countries in the entire world. And least we forget, not just our own complicity in the corruption, but especially F Joe Biden's progeny as well as the sons of other prominent politicos - right here in the US of A.
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US invokes famous Lend-Lease Act
The Ukraine war has been leading to some peculiar historical reminiscences: The US Senate has now unanimously reactivated the famous Lend-Lease Act from World War II in order to be able to deliver weapons and other goods faster and more efficiently – this time to the most corrupt country in Europe: Ukraine. A corresponding bill was just passed in the US Senate.
Published: April 13, 2022, 8:50 am
Washington During World War II, the law allowed the US to provide military and non-military supplies to its allies without time-consuming procedural hurdles. Above all, Stalin’s Soviet Union benefited from this, as it only survived the German advance in 1941/42 thanks to flows of American aid supplies.
Even today, the “Ukraine Democracy Defense Lend-Lease Act of 2022” is intended to accelerate the transfer of war equipment and other militarily relevant goods to Ukraine by removing bureaucratic hurdles. Such a law effectively allows war supplies to be given away – the only provision being that the recipient country repays the United States at some point in the future.
This week, the US State Department announced an additional $100 million for the delivery of Javelin anti-tank guided missiles and other material to Ukraine. This brings US military aid to a total of $2,4 billion since the Russian operation began on February 24.
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PSA Reminder: F Joe Biden's disastrous and preposterous economic performance of last year was not caused by Russia invading Ukraine in the end of February of this year.
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04-17-2022, 08:37 AM
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[QUOTE
Are you sure you ever served?
I will give you a chance to take that back before I say “fuck you”.
I didn’t get drug off to Vietnam and damned near get my legs blown off in a useless god damned war to have to put up with a comment like that.
That being said, I agree with most of what you said.
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Entitled jerks have no respect, yet claim to know it all.
That one is one of the worst.
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04-17-2022, 12:05 PM
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Moles are only 7-8 inches long .
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lol
how many moles make 8 miles?.... 63,360 moles
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04-17-2022, 12:11 PM
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Entitled jerks have no respect, yet claim to know it all.
That one is one of the worst.
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Can we get back on the thread topic of how long a mole is before the principal comes into the playground to discipline us ?
Or maybe it's mole' ? In that case, does it make a difference to the tanks if it is chocolate or peanut based ?
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04-17-2022, 05:13 PM
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large convoys... is this normal for a military operation?
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Only if you're wildly overconfident of your control of the skies. I hear some A-10 pilots are looking at the photos and are getting blue balls.
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04-17-2022, 06:47 PM
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Only if you're wildly overconfident of your control of the skies. I hear some A-10 pilots are looking at the photos and are getting blue balls.
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which apparently the Russian air force has yet to accomplish. that should have been task 1 before troops even began rolling in, in most areas. the disputed eastern areas they had more leeway. the US gave them the gold standard modern battle plan in how we used air power before the land invasion in Iraq.
our air success didn't quite invalidate the old military axiom "you can't win a war with air power alone" but came damn close to it. so why wasn't Russia able to come anywhere close to this?
all the experts are shocked at Russia's inability to control the skies. their tanks not so much as they are all outdated designs and they have a huge numerical advantage over Ukraine. at least their tanks are not clearly superior as Ukraine's tanks are the same models as Russia. Yet they've been bogged down and even repelled in some cases.
before the Ukraine invasion Russia had about 12,000 tanks and the US about 6,000. the bulk of the Army's tanks are the M1 Abrams, vastly superior to the Russian T-72/80/90 despite upgrades. they have only a small number of their newest MBT the T-14 Armada. in a large scale tank engagement the US tanks could easily destroy the Russian tanks 3 to 1 or more. we know that from the Iraq wars.
even the dated M60 Patton tanks formerly used by the Marines and now mainly in National Guard units would be able to fare well against the Russian tanks minus the T-14 Armada. imagine what could happen if Ukraine had a few thousand M1 Abrams to go against Russian armor? that and their lack of control of the skies could be a humiliating situation for Russia, more so than it has been.
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04-17-2022, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
which apparently the Russian air force has yet to accomplish. that should have been task 1 before troops even began rolling in, in most areas. the disputed eastern areas they had more leeway. the US gave them the gold standard modern battle plan in how we used air power before the land invasion in Iraq.
our air success didn't quite invalidate the old military axiom "you can't win a war with air power alone" but came damn close to it. so why wasn't Russia able to come anywhere close to this?
all the experts are shocked at Russia's inability to control the skies. their tanks not so much as they are all outdated designs and they have a huge numerical advantage over Ukraine. at least their tanks are not clearly superior as Ukraine's tanks are the same models as Russia. Yet they've been bogged down and even repelled in some cases.
before the Ukraine invasion Russia had about 12,000 tanks and the US about 6,000. the bulk of the Army's tanks are the M1 Abrams, vastly superior to the Russian T-72/80/90 despite upgrades. they have only a small number of their newest MBT the T-14 Armada. in a large scale tank engagement the US tanks could easily destroy the Russian tanks 3 to 1 or more. we know that from the Iraq wars.
even the dated M60 Patton tanks formerly used by the Marines and now mainly in National Guard units would be able to fare well against the Russian tanks minus the T-14 Armada. imagine what could happen if Ukraine had a few thousand M1 Abrams to go against Russian armor? that and their lack of control of the skies could be a humiliating situation for Russia, more so than it has been.
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If the Ukrainians controlled the airspace, just think what a squadron of A-10’s could do to that fucking 8 mile long column.
But, alas, they don’t, so Ivan gets to keep up his heroic actions against women and children.
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04-17-2022, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackie S
If the Ukrainians controlled the airspace, just think what a squadron of A-10’s could do to that fucking 8 mile long column.
But, alas, they don’t, so Ivan gets to keep up his heroic actions against women and children.
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UKR has SU24 which are A10 equivalents. don't think they have enough of them or they have been shot down.
its likely the convoy is protected by a ring of AA and radar batteries nearby.
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04-17-2022, 11:40 PM
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Just remember, every piece of hardware that we give to Ukraine has to be replaced. How much does anyone want to bet that Biden hasn't come out with an order yet?
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