Paul Ryan's Black Girlfriend and Liberals

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by TexTushHog

I think it speaks well of him that he had an AA girlfriend. Not all Republicans are racist, though all racists are likely Republicans.

Another contender for stupidest post of all time. Congratulations, TTH.

[JD Barleycorn]

Hey, I had two black girlfriends but we don't talk about that. I actually thought of them as the girl as I rescued from the rainstorm and the niece of a friend of mine.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by TexTushHog

I think it speaks well of him that he had an AA girlfriend. Not all Republicans are racist, though all racists are likely Republicans.

What about the racist blacks that hate white people? Are they Republicans?

New Black Panther Field Marshal: Whites ‘Should be Thankful We’re Not Hanging Crackers By Nooses…Yet’

According to National Field Marshal for the New Black Panthers King Samir Shabazz:
•“I love white-on white-crime, because that is the best crime.”
•“I hate the g*ddamn white man, woman, and child, grandma, aunt, uncle, Pappa Billy Bob, and whoever else.”
•“You should be thankful we’re not running around here hanging crackers by nooses and all that kind of stuff — yet, yet, yet”
•He has a “wet dream about killing the g*ddamn cracker.”
•“We don’t allow faggots and lesbians” in the New Black Panther Army
•Envisions a world where every black person is “ready to bang on this cracker”
•Wants to take over neighborhoods “block by block” so “crackers…or even the developer” would be scared to come into them
•“We’re taught to send this cracker to the cemetery… so kiss ‘em goodbye”



http://texasfred.net/archives/16723

[Dawgs]

Yep, but if you say anything bad about it, you are racist

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

What about the racist blacks that hate white people? Are they Republicans?

New Black Panther Field Marshal: Whites ‘Should be Thankful We’re Not Hanging Crackers By Nooses…Yet’

According to National Field Marshal for the New Black Panthers King Samir Shabazz:
•“I love white-on white-crime, because that is the best crime.”
•“I hate the g*ddamn white man, woman, and child, grandma, aunt, uncle, Pappa Billy Bob, and whoever else.”
•“You should be thankful we’re not running around here hanging crackers by nooses and all that kind of stuff — yet, yet, yet”
•He has a “wet dream about killing the g*ddamn cracker.”
•“We don’t allow faggots and lesbians” in the New Black Panther Army
•Envisions a world where every black person is “ready to bang on this cracker”
•Wants to take over neighborhoods “block by block” so “crackers…or even the developer” would be scared to come into them
•“We’re taught to send this cracker to the cemetery… so kiss ‘em goodbye”



http://texasfred.net/archives/16723

According to TTH, these guys must be Republicans.

[joe bloe]

I think those guys are members of Black Racists for Romney, a very confused group of people.

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

I think those guys are members of Black Racists for Romney, a very confused group of people.

what are those who dont prosecute these peoples transgressions ?

[joe bloe]

Is Eric Holder a racist? As Sarah Palin would say, you betcha!

[Pharmaguy729]

We can always go back to a little history of racism in this country.... Woodrow Wilson, a progressive, hosted a showing of Birth of a Nation in the White House... which the movie was basically seen as a recruiting tool for the KKK. Planned Parenthood, founded by Margaret Sanger, also coincedentally a Progressive, was founded in her own words to induce forced sterilization of blacks in this country since they were undesirable. PP likes to distance themselves from their dirty little history now though. LBJ, the President who signed civil rights and voting rights acts, the same acts he blocked in 1957 while Senate Majority Leader, on the reason why he signed them when he was President.... "so we will have those ni**ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years".... now which party has the racist history?

[Guest050715-1]

Originally Posted by Dawgs

And for Ryan at one time having a black girlfriend, come on what's this got to do with the state of our country or what he may do with it? Some people just like digging shit up that has nothing to do with nothing.

Because black racism is ok didn't you know? The whole article is nothing but pure racist nonsense. Institutional "righteous" racism, and all PC for that matter, needs to be dialed back. And affirmative action needs to be closed down as a failed experiment for some and a God send for others, but nonetheless, it's time has come and gone. The fact that Ryan has had a black girlfriend is not even noteworthy. Who cares.

[Guest050715-1]

Originally Posted by Old-T

Unfortunately that is far too simplistic when you try to apply it to the real world. The insidious little problem comes to play in two places:

1. "No special treatment" assumes everyone starts roughly equal. If not, then some people are starting with "special treatment" whether you like it or not.

2. This quickly leads to the question of whose version of "the same" do we select for everyone?.

It is that simple. We as a society need to turn off the PC and racist machine. All men are created equal has been mutated in to equal outcome for all men. That's just not the way it is. I vested so very much more in my child than others vested in theirs. My daughter has come out ahead, emotionally, mentally, physically as well as socially and financially, because of it. It's just that simple.

Originally Posted by Munchmasterman

Since none of these points are discussed in the blog, it looks like everything is about race and projecting to you.

I just have one question, smart guy.

Who is called a racist in the blog?

Paul Ryan, Sen. Thurmond and some other white guy named Dobb. I'm calling the author a racist.

[timpage]

Originally Posted by TexTushHog

I think it speaks well of him that he had an AA girlfriend. Not all Republicans are racist, though all racists are likely Republicans.

Same. My opinion of the guy goes up a notch (from zero).

[TexTushHog]

Every definition of racism I studied in both political science and philosophy noted that racism was directed at a racial minority. Therefore, minorities can't be guilty or racism. They can be guilty of racial discrimination, which is a different concept, or of having ill feeling towards those who dislike them because of their race, including those who are themselves not guilty of treating them unequally . I will certainly concede that there are some of that ilk in the Democratic Party. Perhaps the definitions have changed in the last 30+ years, but I doubt it.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by TexTushHog

Every definition of racism I studied in both political science and philosophy noted that racism was directed at a racial minority. Therefore, minorities can't be guilty or racism. They can be guilty of racial discrimination, which is a different concept, or of having ill feeling towards those who dislike them because of their race, including those who are themselves not guilty of treating them unequally . I will certainly concede that there are some of that ilk in the Democratic Party. Perhaps the definitions have changed in the last 30+ years, but I doubt it.

Bullshit. It's a good thing you weren't sworn in; you would have perjured yourself.

Here are all the definitions of racism I could find. NOT ONE of them says that racism is always directed at a minorities.

rac·ism/ˈrāˌsizəm/

Noun:

• The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as...
• Prejudice or discrimination directed against someone of a different race based on such a belief.

rac·ism

   /ˈreɪsɪzəm/ Show Spelled[rey-siz-uhm] Show IPA
noun 1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.

3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

rac·ism

noun \ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-\

Definition of RACISM

1
: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

2
: racial prejudice or discrimination

rac·ism (rszm) n. 1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

I vested so very much more in my child than others vested in theirs. My daughter has come out ahead, emotionally, mentally, physically as well as socially and financially, because of it

Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

That is a good and proper thing to do. I was not in any way addressing that part of equal/unequal.

We as a society need to turn off the PC and racist machine.
Completely agree with that part.

All men are created equal has been mutated in to equal outcome for all men. That's just not the way it is.
Of course it doesn't mean "equal outcome"; outcome depends upon things such as work, dedication, and sometimes a lot of dumb luck. I have no issue with that. But that is not the issue, it is "equal starting line".

It's just that simple.
What fantasy world do you live in? It sure isn't the real world.

REAL WORLD: School systems where the teachers are not competent and the materials are bad (one I saw recently talks about "The upcoming Clinton-Dole debates". Average reading/writing level of a 4.0 HS grad: 6th grade. Less than 20 miles away is the school district that pays 2x as much and takes most the good teachers from that rural district. There the ave 4.0 HS grad reads well above the 12th grade level. The first school offers ZERO math classes at or above calculus. The second school offers no less than 4. Do not tell me that those kids are "created equal" as they enter the work force or try to get into good colleges. Of course there are some kids who can survive in spite of that situation, but it is in spite of.

REAL WORLD: Infant mortality rates that would shock a 3rd world country in a county where it's a 4 hr drive to the nearest clinic since the "local" one (2 hrs away) was closed for funding reasons. Less than 100 miles away they are expanding one of 4 major hospitals with the money "saved" by closing the clinic. (Before you yell, "100 miles isn't 4 hours away", yes it is when you are not a crow, and when many of the roads are so wash-boarded you can't do much above 20 mph).

REAL WORLD: Eliminate bus routes after 4 PM. Let's see: does this effect everyone equally, or only those who ride mass transit--often because they can't afford a car+gas+insurance+parking+.... .

I tell you what: let's change the rules starting tomorrow:

TRANSPORTATION: No road repairs paid for by municipal, state, or fed governments; if dirt roads are good enough for some, they should be good enough for all. Get rid of special treatment for some. Eliminate FAA and air traffic controllers from the gov't work force. There is lots of evidence that towns can survive just fine without airports.

EDUCATION: All public schools will teach the same set of classes. No exceptions. No field trips or cultural opportunities because it isn't available to all. While we are at it, all sports teams will be co-ed, including football. This is about equal treatment for all. And the basketball team will be chosen by lottery among those who want to play--those with "tall" genes should not be gives special advantages.

NATIONAL LANGUAGE: All government business, contracts, voting, and education will only be conducted in Choctaw. It is fair, and we sure don't want to bend over backwards for the upstart immigrants. We were here first and they should have to learn OUR language or they can go back where they came from!
Olivia, if you don't agree with these then admit you aren't really for "no special treatment", you are actually for deciding what the right "standard treatment" should be for everyone.

And while you are at it, what DO you think "all men are created equal" means in a practical sense. Who is the standard bearer we use for "equal"? I tried to make education, transportation, and language "equal" in my examples above, but I suspect you would not approve.

No, it is not that simple. Life is complicated.