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Old 06-12-2015, 02:55 AM   #16
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I have an idea to thwart their evil plan. Instead of spending tons of money and time trying to prove voter suppression, spend a smaller percentage of those assets identifying voters without ID, and take them to get one. It would cost less, and take less time. But it would also prevent ineligible voters from voting. That is a problem for some candidates.
Oh please. Point me to information that documents widespread voter fraud.
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Old 06-12-2015, 01:59 PM   #17
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I have an idea to thwart their evil plan. Instead of spending tons of money and time trying to prove voter suppression, spend a smaller percentage of those assets identifying voters without ID, and take them to get one. It would cost less, and take less time. But it would also prevent ineligible voters from voting. That is a problem for some candidates.
"...problem for some candidates." Like it would be for woomby / undercunt / rustballoon knot with all his multiple votes for himself in the poll on "Who likes the asshat woomby" .
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Old 06-12-2015, 05:32 PM   #18
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Lazy people don't get to vote? Holy shit, that knocks out at least half of the population.

I'll say what I've always said. The GOP voter suppression laws are despicable and designed to circumvent the Constitution in order to suppress the votes of folks who traditionally support Democrats.

Unfortunately for the judge who wrote the opinion, it will now go up on appeal to the 5th Circuit....who will reverse it.
First, I will admit that I didn't even read the OP. Why waste my time if he won't even put in his two cents worth. However, have you forgotton the democratic poll taxes, polling tests, and Jim Crow laws?
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Old 06-12-2015, 07:06 PM   #19
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Don't forger gerrymandering judy........
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Old 06-12-2015, 07:46 PM   #20
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First, I will admit that I didn't even read the OP. Why waste my time if he won't even put in his two cents worth. However, have you forgotton the democratic poll taxes, polling tests, and Jim Crow laws?
You've obviously forgotten that those were when the democratic party was conservative. Democrats weren't always liberal and republicans weren't always conservative. You must have context when looking at things.

http://www.livescience.com/34241-dem...platforms.html
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Old 06-12-2015, 07:52 PM   #21
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Oh please. Point me to information that documents widespread voter fraud.
So..it only counts if its "widespread"? Not if it happens at all?

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/...-diego-county/

Ok.. now SHOW ME where there is ANY "wide spread" number of voters prevented from casting a ballot by voter ID laws.

Or can you just claim it happens without evidence and we should believe you?
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Old 06-12-2015, 07:54 PM   #22
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historically, all of these voter suppression schemes were designed to prevent people from voting who legally ought to have the right to vote. It's fucking un-American.
Is REQUIRING a VOTER to prove they are alive and the person registered on the roll before they vote also "un-American'?

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/...-diego-county/
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So..it only counts if its "widespread"? Not if it happens at all?

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/...-diego-county/

Ok.. now SHOW ME where there is ANY "wide spread" number of voters prevented from casting a ballot by voter ID laws.

Or can you just claim it happens without evidence and we should believe you?
you are not familiar with the burden of proof, obviously. If you're going to enact voter ID laws to combat fraud, the burden of proof is on you to prove fraud in the first place. Nice try.
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Old 06-12-2015, 08:30 PM   #24
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you are not familiar with the burden of proof, obviously. If you're going to enact voter ID laws to combat fraud, the burden of proof is on you to prove fraud in the first place. Nice try.
I provided PROOF of voter fraud. If you are going to claim Voter ID laws causes suppression, the burden of proof is on YOU to prove suppression.

NICE TRY!!
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I provided PROOF of voter fraud. If you are going to claim Voter ID laws causes suppression, the burden of proof is on YOU to prove suppression.

NICE TRY!!
Negative. You did not prove widespread voter fraud. And the ID laws are being called for BECAUSE of fraud. So the burden of proof is still on you.
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Negative. You did not prove widespread voter fraud.
Just like you did not prove WIDESPREAD VOTER SUPPRESSION.

Care to try again? In fact.. there are studies showing that the minority turn out WENT UP after voter ID was implemented. Did you know that or did you need me to SHOW IT TO YOU via links yet again?
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Old 06-12-2015, 08:44 PM   #27
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Negative. You did not prove widespread voter fraud. And the ID laws are being called for BECAUSE of fraud. So the burden of proof is still on you.
So.. what's the minimum acceptable amount of voter fraud WOMBY? 5? 50? 500? 5000? 5 million? How much?

And how much "voter suppression" is allowable?
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So.. what's the minimum acceptable amount of voter fraud WOMBY? 5? 50? 500? 5000? 5 million? How much?

And how much "voter suppression" is allowable?
Widespread fraud. And no suppression should be 'allowable'.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/11/up...abt=0002&abg=0

http://mediamatters.org/research/201...oter-fr/201382


http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnwasi...tic-deception/
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So is it your admission that "Fraud is allowable'.. so long as it isn't "widespread".. with you and the Dems defining what "widespread' is?

ROFL. you folks are hilarious.
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You've obviously forgotten that those were when the democratic party was conservative. Democrats weren't always liberal and republicans weren't always conservative. You must have context when looking at things. [/URL]
Your attempt at rewriting history is pathetic... CrowLover
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