AND THE DIMWIT DEMOCRATS THINK THE GOP IS IN DECLINE....

[Fast Gunn]

We have already had this discussion, Senor Doofus.

You just want to quibble about the margins again as if that will somehow diminish the results.

The fact is that the Republicans brought in all their big guns and despite heavily outspending the Democrats, they still lost the election.

The election was settled at the ballot box.

We did not need the Supreme Court giving us the White House like you know who.

. . . It's time to accept the facts and support the President we have.

Originally Posted by TheDaliLama

Nixon won by 60% .Reagan won by 59%

Only a Dem would think that 50.4% is a mandate.

[Guest040616]

Originally Posted by Fast Gunn

We have already had this discussion, Senor Doofus.

You just want to quibble about the margins again as if that will somehow diminish the results.

The fact is that the Republicans brought in all their big guns and despite heavily outspending the Democrats, they still lost the election.

The election was settled at the ballot box.

We did not need the Supreme Court giving us the White House like you know who.

. . . It's time to accept the facts and support the President we have.

It might just be a coincidence but I do not recall Lama bitching and moaning in 2004 about GW openly claiming his mandate, despite having earned less than 51% of the vote. In his advancing years, Lama seems to be asshole deep in the pissy-assed, whiner delegation of losers, castoffs and misfits.

Perhaps it is because Lama's robe is too tight! He probably needs to take another trip to the Salvation Army for the latest in discarded Lama Wear.

[Whirlaway]

The Democrats were NOT "heavily outspent" in the 2012 election.

Here is my source:
http://money.cnn.com/2012/11/05/news...nce/index.html

Where is yours ?

Originally Posted by Fast Gunn

We have already had this discussion, Senor Doofus.

You just want to quibble about the margins again as if that will somehow diminish the results.

The fact is that the Republicans brought in all their big guns and despite heavily outspending the Democrats, they still lost the election.

The election was settled at the ballot box.

We did not need the Supreme Court giving us the White House like you know who.

. . . It's time to accept the facts and support the President we have.

[Whirlaway]

More proof that the GOP is kicking the Democrats asses in state elections and governance

North Carolina as the Blueprint for a Red-State Resurgence....

By FRED BARNES at Wall Street Journal On Line.

Democrats across the country are celebrating the re-election of President Obama and the pickup of two seats in the Senate and eight in the House. But in two formerly Democratic states, Republicans have much to be joyful about.

The GOP victory in North Carolina included the governorship, veto-proof majorities in the state Senate and House, control of 54 of the state's 100 counties, three new U.S. House seats, and a pivotal seat on the state Supreme Court. All this lifted Mitt Romney to a narrow victory in a state that Mr. Obama won in 2008.

It is premature to declare North Carolina a reliably red state, but Republicans are "positioned to be the dominant party in North Carolina for at least a decade if not beyond," says GOP consultant Marc Rotterman.

The same is true in Arkansas, the second-best state for Republicans in last month's election. Both states offer Republicans an opportunity to unseat Democratic senators in 2014. In Arkansas, the GOP trend has moved so quickly that Sen. Mark Pryor, who had no Republican opponent in 2008, is now considered highly vulnerable. In North Carolina, Sen. Kay Hagen, when matched against an unspecified Republican challenger, led just 45%-41% in a Public Policy Polling survey last month. The last Democratic senator to win re-election in North Carolina was Sam Ervin in 1968.

Republicans in the Tar Heel State were unified, with all elements of the party, including social conservatives, engaged with the various campaigns. The GOP ticket was ideologically balanced, with moderate gubernatorial candidate Pat McCrory at the top. The party, Republican campaigns, and GOP-oriented groups joined in a massive turnout operation. Republicans exploited every opening that Democrats gave them—and there were plenty.

The administration of incumbent Democratic Gov. Beverly Perdue—though not Ms. Perdue personally—was marked by scandals. The John Locke Foundation, a conservative think tank, uncovered numerous instances of misconduct and reported them in its publication, Carolina Journal. Gov. Perdue's job approval sank to 25%, making her the second-most unpopular governor in the country (behind Pat Quinn in Illinois).

That wasn't all. In 2007, Democratic House Speaker Jim Black was convicted of taking a $25,000 bribe. In 2009, the law license of Gov. Perdue's predecessor, Mike Easley, was suspended after his conviction on a campaign reporting violation, a felony. And this year, the state Democratic Party was hit by a sexual-harassment scandal.

"There was a culture of corruption because Democrats were in power for so long," says John Hood, president of the Locke Foundation. "And there were crooks."

The timing of these Democratic scandals was propitious for Republicans, who in 2010 captured the state legislature for the first time and earned the opportunity to reapportion legislative districts, also for the first time in the state's history. Republicans seized the moment, undoing more than a century of Democratic gerrymandering.

They forced the retirement of two Democrats in the U.S. House, Heath Shuler and Brad Miller, and helped cause the electoral defeat of a third, Larry Kissell. To improve GOP prospects, Republican incumbent Congressman Patrick McHenry agreed to have liberal Asheville shifted into his district. Having won his seat with 71% of votes in 2010, he still won re-election comfortably this year, 57%-43%.

The linchpin of the Republican sweep was Mr. McCrory, the gubernatorial aspirant. Mayor of Charlotte from 1995-2009, he lost a close contest for governor in 2008 but ran a nearly flawless race this time, significantly outspending his opponent and imposing his issues as the focus of the campaign. His message was simple: "We must fix North Carolina's broken economy and broken state government, and with new leadership we can bring about a Carolina comeback."

Given his reputation as a moderate, Mr. McCrory made a point of broadening his support by appealing to conservatives. He backed a voter ID law. More important, he endorsed an amendment on the ballot in the May primary that established traditional marriage as "the only domestic legal union" valid in the state. "You don't desert things like that," says Jack Hawke, Mr. McCrory's chief strategist. The amendment passed, 61%-39%.

The marriage issue energized evangelicals and social conservatives. "It kept them involved for the entire campaign," says Mr. Rotterman, the consultant. Mr. McCrory also overwhelmingly won independents, belying the notion that wooing social conservatives alienates others, independents especially.

Mr. Romney was a major beneficiary of the GOP success. Campaign buzz around a partial pullout of Obama operatives proved to be false, and in fact Mr. Obama expanded his North Carolina operation in the closing weeks, even dispatching Joe Biden and Bill Clinton to appear at rallies. The president likely would have won the state absent the boost that down-ticket Republicans gave Mr. Romney.

Now Mr. McCrory, the first Republican governor in two decades, must revive the state's economy, which has the nation's fifth-worst unemployment rate, at 9.3%. He wants to use tax reform to cut business and individual income taxes (top rate 7.75%) and tap the state's oil and natural-gas resources, all while overhauling state government. If he succeeds, he'll build a durable Republican majority.

Tom Jensen, the director of Raleigh-based Public Policy Polling, says the Democratic Party in North Carolina is "broken" and leaderless. But former four-term Gov. Jim Hunt remains active and the party's longtime alliance with big business is weakened but not dead.

In Arkansas, by contrast, the Democratic Party barely exists. With the Clintons gone, it has no center, and Republicans have swept to power in only two years. In 2010, Republican John Boozman ousted Democratic Sen. Blanche Lincoln, 58%-37%. This year, Republicans took the state legislature and Tom Cotton, the star Republican freshman of the 2012 class, won the state's last Democratic-held seat in Congress. Mr. Romney won Arkansas by 25 points. Democratic Gov. Mike Beebe is term-limited and leaves office in 2014.

The lesson from the two states where Republicans did the best in 2012 are hardly new ones. Party unity matters. There is no substitute for good candidates. Broad-gauge, inclusive conservative campaigns tend to prosper. Simple as that.

Mr. Barnes is executive editor of the Weekly Standard and a Fox News commentator.

A version of this article appeared December 8, 2012, on page A15 in the U.S. edition of The Wall Street Journal, with the headline: North Carolina as the Blueprint for a Red-State Resurgence.

[Whirlaway]

The left wing progressive agenda is being rejected in the majority of the 50 states; including many blue-states (see North Carolina above) !!!!!!!!!!

[Yssup Rider]

Looks like North Carolina done trended red on Nov. 6.

What's your fucking point, Jerkaway? Is this somehow supposed to make you feel better about the overwhelming Electoral ass whooping the "rising" GOP took on Nov. 6? Again, you refuse to face the facts. And the truth. Does this strengthen your resolve in the "new" Confederacy?

Deal with it. Or don't deal with it. Just understand that you have established a firm grasp on the title of the whiniest bitch in this forum and your endless pathetic mewling can't and won't change the shape of things to come.

"Dissent is patriotic. Whining, however, is the province of pussies...." Yssup Rider.

[Fast Gunn]

. . . Does it ever rain in Candy Land?

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[Whirlaway]

The facts of the November 6th election are nothing for you to celebrate...the political power is status quo....and you have no proof otherwise....

[Guest040616]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

The left wing progressive agenda is being rejected in the majority of the 50 states; including many blue-states (see North Carolina above) !!!!!!!!!!

Yet another "trending" faux paus on Whirly's part! North Carolina a blue state? Give me a friggin break.! With the notable exception of 1976 and 2008, NC has voted Republican in each election dating back to the 1960's.


North Carolina, one of the original 13 colonies, entered the Union in November 1789. The state did not participate in the 1864 election due to secession. Like many other southern states, North Carolina voted almost exclusively Democratic from 1876 through 1964 and almost exclusively Republican beginning in 1968. The initial shift was largely in response to white conservative voter uneasiness with the civil rights legislation passed in the mid-1960s, which was effectively exploited by the Republicans “southern strategy.” In 2008, Barack Obama reversed the trend of Republican dominance here (although just barely), defeating John McCain by about 14,000 votes out of 4.3 million cast (49.7% to 49.4%). It was the 2nd closest race of the 2008 election (behind Missouri). North Carolina will be a swing state to watch in 2012.

NORTH CAROLINA PRESIDENTIAL VOTING HISTORY

Last 12 Presidential Elections

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[Whirlaway]

Despite your delusion of a coming Socialist Utopia, here is the reality:

1. The 2012 election was the perfect status quo event. On November 6 Americans by the millions went through a massive exercise of going to the polls and voting, only to awake the next morning to find that nothing had changed—other than a welcome respite from the incessant phone calls from the campaign headquarters. There was the same president, the same majority party in the House of Representatives, and the same majority party in the Senate. John Boehner was still Speaker of the House, and Harry Reid Majority Leader of the Senate. Above all, the election offered no feeling of renewal, no sense of a new direction for public policy.

2. Obama made history in 2012 almost as much as he did in 2008. For the first time, an incumbent won re-election to a second term while receiving fewer votes than in his first election. All other victorious incumbents—most recently Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush—gained electoral strength, Obama lost it.

3. The relative position of the two parties nevertheless remains very close, and the nation evenly divided. Democrats have the edge "horizontally" at the national level, while Republicans have a large advantage "vertically" at the state level. The GOP holds 30 of the 50 governors and has full control (both houses of the legislature and the governorship) in 23 states compared to 12 for the Democrats. The United States is far from being anything like a pure blue nation. Republicans have both a legitimate claim and the power to exercise a significant role in governing.

4. It is a stretch to see a robust majority coalition in 50.4% of the population, especially for an incumbent president who had all the advantages of his office, faced no competition for the nomination, had more money to spend (without fear of being accused of buying an election), and had four years to build a formidable organization.

5. At the state house level the era of Progressive politics is being dismantled in Wisconsin, Indiana, Ohio, NJ, and now Michigan. Last night the State of Michigan put itself on track to get rid of the union closed shop rules that was choking off economic growth ! That's right, in the state that the UAW was born, unionization is being de-legislated ! All with the consent of Michigan citizens and their Tea Party representatives.

[Whirlaway]

In North Carolina, the Governor's office and State House has historically been in Democrat control.....thanks to a coalition of conservatives (tea party, evangelicals, etc), it no longer is.

The conservative GOP coalition will now control the legislative agenda in Raleigh.

[TheDaliLama]

Yep....and he didn't have a mandate either.

[Yssup Rider]

I generally date ladies...

[Guest040616]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

In North Carolina, the Governor's office and State House has historically been in Democrat control.....thanks to a coalition of conservatives (tea party, evangelicals, etc), it no longer is.

The conservative GOP coalition will now control the legislative agenda in Raleigh.

Originally Posted by bigtex

Like many other southern states, North Carolina voted almost exclusively Democratic from 1876 through 1964 and almost exclusively Republican beginning in 1968. The initial shift was largely in response to white conservative voter uneasiness with the civil rights legislation passed in the mid-1960s, which was effectively exploited by the Republicans “southern strategy.” In 2008, Barack Obama reversed the trend of Republican dominance here (although just barely), defeating John McCain by about 14,000 votes out of 4.3 million cast (49.7% to 49.4%). It was the 2nd closest race of the 2008 election (behind Missouri).

Whirly, perhaps you need to spend a little more time absorbing the above critique of NC's recent voting history!

Originally Posted by TheDaliLama

Yep....and he didn't have a mandate either.

Lama, I do not recall you bitching and moaning in 2004 when GW stated that he was planning to spend his "political capital."

[Whirlaway]

BigTits, you need to read up on your history more....

Here is what happened on election night in North Carolina. From the Raleigh News Observer:

"Republicans made history on Election Day as they seized control of North Carolina's legislature for the first time in more than a century."

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/11/...#storylink=cpy

Originally Posted by bigtex

Whirly, perhaps you need to spend a little more time absorbing the above critique of NC's recent voting history!