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Old 06-07-2012, 03:21 PM   #16
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the socialist party is on RECORD saying Obama isnt a socialist ...

aside from all the conspiracy bullshit trumped up by rightwing idiots, what more do you want ?
Here's a hypothetical for you. Let's say documents are discovered that prove Romney was a member of a group that shared all the beliefs of the Ku Klux Klan. Romney sought their endorsement, attended their meetings and formally became a member. Let's say that conservatives are required to defend Romney from this shocking new information and that their only defense is to say the official Ku Klux Klan headquarters denies that Romney ever joined. Would that clear Romney of being a racist? Would you accept that as a legitimate defense? No of course not. Why would Romney join a group that shared all the views of the Klan if he wasn't racist?

The New Party was clearly a socialist organization. It's clear that Obama was a member. Your defense that THE SOCIALIST PARTY says he's not a member of their group doesn't negate the fact that Obama joined a socialist group, and is therefore a socialist.
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Old 06-07-2012, 03:32 PM   #17
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Here's a hypothetical for you. Let's say documents are discovered that prove Romney was a member of a group that shared all the beliefs of the Ku Klux Klan. Romney sought their endorsement, attended their meetings and formally became a member. Let's say that conservatives are required to defend Romney from this shocking new information and that their only defense is to say the official Ku Klux Klan headquarters denies that Romney ever joined. Would that clear Romney of being a racist? Would you accept that as a legitimate defense? No of course not. Why would Romney join a group that shared all the views of the Klan if he wasn't racist?

The New Party was clearly a socialist organization. It's clear that Obama was a member. Your defense that THE SOCIALIST PARTY says he's not a member of their group doesn't negate the fact that Obama joined a socialist group, and is therefore a socialist.

see?

even when it (facts) comes from the horses mouth the morons cant digest the truth ..


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Old 06-07-2012, 03:42 PM   #18
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see?

even when it (facts) comes from the horses mouth the morons cant digest the truth ..


You are hopeless.
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Old 06-07-2012, 03:52 PM   #19
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me hopless?

timelines too much for ya arent they?

ok ... 1996 Obie supposedly enters the socialist party

2008 the socialist party leaders say Obama isnt a sociaist

2012 morons continue to swear Obama is a socialist


reach out for those that are really hopeless and tell them to quell the inane bullshit that isnt true.
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Old 06-07-2012, 03:55 PM   #20
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A socialist is as a socialist does. Obama is a socialist. Get over it.
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Old 06-07-2012, 04:02 PM   #21
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A socialist is as a socialist does. Obama is a socialist. Get over it.

welcome to 2012


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Old 06-07-2012, 04:11 PM   #22
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what is the big news here?

this "breaking" news is that obama is a socialist and a liar?, well yeah!
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Old 06-07-2012, 04:17 PM   #23
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2008 the socialist party leaders say Obama isnt a sociaist

mr obama, should you choose to accept this mission and you be found out we will disavow all knowledge

this tape will self-destruct in ten seconds
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Old 06-07-2012, 04:20 PM   #24
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me hopless?

timelines too much for ya arent they?

ok ... 1996 Obie supposedly enters the socialist party

2008 the socialist party leaders say Obama isnt a sociaist

2012 morons continue to swear Obama is a socialist


reach out for those that are really hopeless and tell them to quell the inane bullshit that isnt true.
Bernie Sanders is a senator from Vermont and is a self described socialist. He caucuses with the Democrats, but is officially an independant. By your reasoning, unless he's a member of the Socialist Party USA, he's not a socialist.

To say that a person isn't a socialist unless they officially join the Socialist Party USA, is absurd. It's like saying you can't be an environmentalist unless you join Greenpeace.
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Old 06-07-2012, 04:26 PM   #25
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Cj7, which "socialist party" are you referring to?
The one he signed up with is celled simply "The New Party".
I believe they believe int the "western European" style of socialism.
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Old 06-07-2012, 04:32 PM   #26
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me hopless?

timelines too much for ya arent they?

ok ... 1996 Obie supposedly enters the socialist party

2008 the socialist party leaders say Obama isnt a sociaist

2012 morons continue to swear Obama is a socialist


reach out for those that are really hopeless and tell them to quell the inane bullshit that isnt true.


You seem stuck on this. Let me help you get unstuck. There is DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE that contradicts the self-serving denials of certain "members" of the party. DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE that Obama did in fact join the party.

No, he didn't join the Socialist Party, and nobody's claiming that he did - at least not in the NRO article.

I guess you'd have to READ the article to see this. But I've seen nothing in any of your posts that suggests you've actually READ the article. I imagine National Review to you is like sunshine to a vampire.

There is supposed to be a much fuller account of this in the print article coming out in the June 25 edition. Would you like me to send you a copy ... in a plain brown wrapper so your roommates at the home won't suspect?
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Old 06-07-2012, 05:07 PM   #27
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me hopless?

timelines too much for ya arent they?

ok ... 1996 Obie supposedly enters the socialist party

2008 the socialist party leaders say Obama isnt a sociaist

2012 morons continue to swear Obama is a socialist


reach out for those that are really hopeless and tell them to quell the inane bullshit that isnt true.
"me hopless"

No, I have no reason to doubt your hopping ability.
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They've released the Chicago Tribune article from Jan 11, 1996 that says he didn't join. Socialister.

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Old 06-07-2012, 05:30 PM   #29
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They've released the Chicago Tribune article from Jan 11, 1996 that says he didn't join. Socialister.

It's like someone going to NAMBLA meetings and accepting their endorsement, but insisting it's no big deal because they didn't join.
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Old 06-07-2012, 05:45 PM   #30
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f the article, f the 1996 he joined bs ... and unless any of you can point out the significance any of this has on the economy, jobs and the people touched by both, then f you too.

all of you pathetic morons have cried wolf wolf for so long about shit that has no relevence nobody except your own shit slinging ilk gives a damn, ergo politically neutering yourselves.

kudos.
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