SELECTIVE EDIT? MOTHER JONES ADMITS ROMNEY TAPE MISSING 'ONE TO TWO MINUTES'

[AdventureAdams]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

What part of "able bodied adults" do you not get? They can do the jobs the illegal aliens are currently doing. These people need to be mowing lawns, picking crops and scrubbing toilets.

Those people would probably still need welfare to subsidize their living because those jobs provide some of the lowest wages in the country.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by Doove

Alright, since you won't answer the question in the other thread, where i posted it 3 times, i'll ask it here.

How many people in your respective families are freeloading moochers who don't pay any federal income taxes?

Zero

Your turn

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by SkylarCruzWantsYou

Joe do you automatically believe that the 47 percent that pay no federal income taxes are all on welfare? The people who although not paying Federal taxes still contribute to payroll tax, medicare, social security, property taxes and of course retail taxes.

What about the senior citizen who make up 22% of the non payers in this country? Or the 17 percent that consists of full time students, disabled and ill people as well as disable veterans?

I guess we should all say "To hell with those folks." Right?

Do you consider every person on welfare is a freeloader? You know we are talking about Welfare and not social disability, being able bodied has nothing to do with get housing assistance or food stamps- it has to do with your income or lack of income.

It's okay to say what Romney said was stupid without going back on your values or beliefs but what Romney said was idiotic, careless, and far from the truth. Acknowledging that Romney may not be the greatest person for the job doesn't make you any less republican it just means you are able to step aside a look at things independently and back it up with something of substance.

Joe's full of shit

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by Doove

Alright, since you won't answer the question in the other thread, where i posted it 3 times, i'll ask it here.

How many people in your respective families are freeloading moochers who don't pay any federal income taxes?

Again, zero. Now STFU.

[Doove]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

Zero

You don't lie very well. At all.

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Again, zero. Now STFU.

And neither do you.

[CuteOldGuy]

You're the only one lying here, Doove. Take my advice, STFU.

[LexusLover]

If I am required to pay $50,000 in Federal Income taxes in a fiscal year, would it be okay if I hired enough employees to increase my overhead so I would only have to pay my mandatory Federal self-employment taxes and then I would NOT have to pay the $50,000 in Federal Income taxes?

Would I be a freeloading moocher?

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

You're the only one lying here, Doove. Take my advice, STFU.

when you werent working you paid federal income taxes?

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by SkylarCruzWantsYou

Joe do you automatically believe that the 47 percent that pay no federal income taxes are all on welfare? The people who although not paying Federal taxes still contribute to payroll tax, medicare, social security, property taxes and of course retail taxes.

What about the senior citizen who make up 22% of the non payers in this country? Or the 17 percent that consists of full time students, disabled and ill people as well as disable veterans?

I guess we should all say "To hell with those folks." Right?

Do you consider every person on welfare is a freeloader? You know we are talking about Welfare and not social disability, being able bodied has nothing to do with get housing assistance or food stamps- it has to do with your income or lack of income.

It's okay to say what Romney said was stupid without going back on your values or beliefs but what Romney said was idiotic, careless, and far from the truth. Acknowledging that Romney may not be the greatest person for the job doesn't make you any less republican it just means you are able to step aside a look at things independently and back it up with something of substance.

Cut to the chase. Millions of Americans are abusing the welfare system. These people should no longer be able to steal from their neighbors by not working and receiving welfare benefits they don't truly need. That's what Romney is talking about. I think most Americans realize that. My guess is, you do too.

[AdventureAdams]

You just disregarded my entire statement, his statement wasn't just about welfare. It was about the people who he assumed paid no taxes whatsoever and lumped them together with welfare recipients and citizen who participate in other social or "entitlement" programs.

You not answering a single one of my questions speaks volumes, at least I am able to respond to your comments straightforward, without doing some welfare reach around.

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by CJ7

when you werent working you paid federal income taxes?

It's none of your fucking business, but I was still making money.

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

Cut to the chase. Millions of Americans are abusing the welfare system. These people should no longer be able to steal from their neighbors by not working and receiving welfare benefits they don't truly need. That's what Romney is talking about. I think most Americans realize that. My guess is, you do too.

welfare or 47% of working people who pay no income tax ?

youre spinning so fast youre confusing yourself Joe ... take a Geritol break and regroup

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by SkylarCruzWantsYou

Joe do you automatically believe that the 47 percent that pay no federal income taxes are all on welfare? The people who although not paying Federal taxes still contribute to payroll tax, medicare, social security, property taxes and of course retail taxes.

What about the senior citizen who make up 22% of the non payers in this country? Or the 17 percent that consists of full time students, disabled and ill people as well as disable veterans?

I guess we should all say "To hell with those folks." Right?

Do you consider every person on welfare is a freeloader? You know we are talking about Welfare and not social disability, being able bodied has nothing to do with get housing assistance or food stamps- it has to do with your income or lack of income.

It's okay to say what Romney said was stupid without going back on your values or beliefs but what Romney said was idiotic, careless, and far from the truth. Acknowledging that Romney may not be the greatest person for the job doesn't make you any less republican it just means you are able to step aside a look at things independently and back it up with something of substance.

If it was up to me, ALL FEDERAL welfare programs would end because they are NOT CONSTITUTIONAL. If the states want to have social welfare programs, that's up to them. We never should have allowed FDR to start the social welfare state back in the thirties.

Romney is not my ideal candidate, but that is certainly not because he's too conservative. For you to call Romney stupid is absurd; the man is brilliant.

[Doove]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

You're the only one lying here, Doove. Take my advice, STFU.

Strike a nerve?

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

It's none of your fucking business, but I was still making money.

I think that's what they call "a non-denial denial".

COG, though, would call it a straw-man.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by SkylarCruzWantsYou

Those people would probably still need welfare to subsidize their living because those jobs provide some of the lowest wages in the country.

The illegal aliens live on the income produced by those jobs; Americans are just going to have to make do. If we subsidize someone's income, we're just borrowing it from our kids and our grandkids. Our unfunded liabilities are over one hundred trillion dollars. We are bankrupt; this madness has to end.