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Old 04-22-2013, 09:18 PM   #16
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Thanks for the support, Fancy and theCFE.

I am not going to even get into debating ECCIE's stance on this, as there simply are not enough female hobbyists active here to justify the effort that would be needed to prevent possible abuse. Although honestly, isn't it pretty much known that a provider can easily get a male account and read all the nasty little bits and pieces? I chose to play by the rules and not register as a male, which I do not regret.

I do feel that I have a valid perspective that is very under-represented and does not feel particularly valued. I think U.S. culture is evolving to include greater numbers of individuals with less traditional sexual attitudes, and I anticipate more couples getting involved in this sort of activity.

Unfortunately, as theCFE said, there is just not a lot of information out there. We have generally been shooting blind to a degree, because even with the input of the male halves of the other couples on here, you aren't really getting a good picture for the F-F interaction. And honestly, some seem to represent it as a porno type experience vs. equally-involved partners.

Thankfully some providers have given us the benefit of their experiences with doubles, but it would be nice to have additional resources on here. I initially tried to provide some feedback for my husband's reviews, but felt fairly discouraged due to some negative feedback and also general ennui over my limbo status.
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:22 PM   #17
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Side note to provider reviews of doubles -

While I appreciate the fun of reading those reviews such as the one posted by Dayna above, I do not take them as a good indicator/feedback as to what would work in a a provider-couple or provider-femalehobbyist situation. The parties involved have an obvious and completely understandable bias to make the client happy, and would be doing harm to their business by being fully honest.
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:02 PM   #18
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ECCIE holds a very sexist attitude in this respect. As long as the lady is not a provider but partakes of providers, she should have the same rights as a gentleman regarding reviews, ROS, and credit.

We are excluding those Hobbyists who are female and/or part of a couple, and I can see no valid reason why. Rather narrow-minded and antiquated for a site that promotes sexual freedom of choice.
+1...lets stop dragging the knuckles, it's more fun when every one gets a chance to play
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Old 04-23-2013, 02:39 PM   #19
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I am generally all in favor of equality. If you ever think this place is an asylum now, try it with the Providers seeing the Rest of the Story, being able to admit they have read it, and then being able to comment, bitch, argue, etc.

Agree or not, this is what I understand is the reson ladies do not get access to the Review sections. The Mods have given several places where a Lady may publish the review of another woman, but NOT in the [Men's] review sections.

Sometimes one has to accept rules of private organizations and live within them.

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Old 04-23-2013, 03:27 PM   #20
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So you're saying seperate but equal. Yeah, that's worked historically. I'm only talking in regards to male/female hobbyist.... not providers.
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:52 PM   #21
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I am generally all in favor of equality. If you ever think this place is an asylum now, try it with the Providers seeing the Rest of the Story, being able to admit they have read it, and then being able to comment, bitch, argue, etc.

Agree or not, this is what I understand is the reson ladies do not get access to the Review sections. The Mods have given several places where a Lady may publish the review of another woman, but NOT in the [Men's] review sections.

Sometimes one has to accept rules of private organizations and live within them.

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Yeah, this is where I come down. I think non-provider ladies SHOULD have equal access, but I do maintain that the provider-ROS wall serves an important function in providing honest and thorough intel.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:41 PM   #22
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Can a lady at least get a way to get more than 50 PMs or at least custom title access up in this bitch?!

I would say most people think I am secretly a provider spying on all their manly business. But I am not interested in any PENISES.

Yellow fever excepting and those practically aren't there anyhow, so same thing.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:49 PM   #23
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Damn that's cold. That's a good way to cut down on your business, just sayin'.

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Old 04-23-2013, 09:15 PM   #24
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Damn that's cold. That's a good way to cut down on your business, just sayin'.

It's called the WFE.

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Old 04-23-2013, 09:16 PM   #25
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Cold and yet so true. She knows from experience!
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Old 04-24-2013, 03:57 AM   #26
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I did enjoy!! thanks for sharing :-)
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Old 04-24-2013, 04:32 AM   #27
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Unfortunately for Lil this site is pretty much a m4f site. I see no need for any f4f sections on the site as you would be one of maby five that would use it. As far as getting more pm space you would have to be a provider, and as you said you are not. Besides all you would get is more messages from penises you don't want. Maybe you should put something in your sig line to stop them from trying to hook up with you. Good luck, I kinda wondered about you too. I thought you were a tranny or something to tell you the truth.
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:31 AM   #28
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Unfortunately for Lil this site is pretty much a m4f site. I see no need for any f4f sections on the site as you would be one of maby five that would use it. As far as getting more pm space you would have to be a provider, and as you said you are not. Besides all you would get is more messages from penises you don't want. Maybe you should put something in your sig line to stop them from trying to hook up with you. Good luck, I kinda wondered about you too. I thought you were a tranny or something to tell you the truth.

LMAO!!!!!!! Dayum bruh......
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:40 AM   #29
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If it ain't broke, don't fix it
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:06 AM   #30
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It might give the whales something to do.

just sayin'

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