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10-22-2015, 01:00 AM
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I have mixed feelings. Biden entering the race would help Bernie Sanders, who I'm supporting. But I recognize that HRC is likely to be my party's nominee. And while I personally like Joe Biden (and no, that is really a figure of speech, I don' know him, but I have met him four or five times), I'm not sure that he would be a better President on domestic matters than would HRC. I do, however, trust his judgment more on foreign policy than I do hers. He is much less a hawk than she is. I'd be delighted to work for either one, or for Bernie, who I think is a breath of fresh air in the increasingly centrist Democratic Party.
But I think in the end, he correctly analyzed the situation. I have heard through the political grapevine that he is still deeply grieving from the premature death of his son Beau (the second child that he has buried, BTW). And while it is terribly unfair that that period of grief has taken away his last opportunity to run for President, time waits for no man. It's just the way it is. But he is a very decent and caring man. He deeply loves this country and wants the best for it. I hope he continues to be active in our country's public life well past the end of Obama's presidency.
One of his unique gifts was the ability to get along with almost anybody. He loves people. And back before the two parties became so polarized (and you can guess who I think is responsible for the vast majority of it), he was one Senator who could be counted on to make the rounds and see if there was some common ground somewhere that might form the basis for a deal that might not solve the entire problem, but would at least help. He really had a knack for compromise and horse trading. At least in my view -- which may have some partisan bias -- the modern Republican Party equates compromise with treason. LBJ's favorite verse from Proverbs, "Come, let us reason together," fall on completely deaf ears on that side of the aisle these days. But Sen. Biden never took disagreement personally, and could always disagree without being disagreeable. And ALWAYS kept his eye out for common ground. Those qualities are much needed on both sides of the aisle today.
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Well said. You won't find much reason or common sense around these parts. You're right about the republicans though. The party has been hijacked and they view compromise as weakness and would rather shut the government down than do what's best for the country. Boehner was much like Biden, he was a guy willing to reach across the aisle and he was kicked out because of it. And now the fucking idiots can't even get behind a common person to guide the party.
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10-22-2015, 04:12 AM
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Professional Tush Hog.
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Yeah, that's one reason I seldom stop in this section any more. It's like a junior high locker room. The quality of the discussion is rather lacking. Plus, I'm spending more time overseas as I more toward retirement. Events in the US don't seem as important to me these days. It kind of like something that is happening elsewhere, though I'm still here 70-75% of the time or so.
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10-22-2015, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by TexTushHog
I have mixed feelings. Biden entering the race would help Bernie Sanders, who I'm supporting. But I recognize that HRC is likely to be my party's nominee. And while I personally like Joe Biden (and no, that is really a figure of speech, I don' know him, but I have met him four or five times), I'm not sure that he would be a better President on domestic matters than would HRC. I do, however, trust his judgment more on foreign policy than I do hers. He is much less a hawk than she is. I'd be delighted to work for either one, or for Bernie, who I think is a breath of fresh air in the increasingly centrist Democratic Party.
But I think in the end, he correctly analyzed the situation. I have heard through the political grapevine that he is still deeply grieving from the premature death of his son Beau (the second child that he has buried, BTW). And while it is terribly unfair that that period of grief has taken away his last opportunity to run for President, time waits for no man. It's just the way it is. But he is a very decent and caring man. He deeply loves this country and wants the best for it. I hope he continues to be active in our country's public life well past the end of Obama's presidency.
One of his unique gifts was the ability to get along with almost anybody. He loves people. And back before the two parties became so polarized (and you can guess who I think is responsible for the vast majority of it), he was one Senator who could be counted on to make the rounds and see if there was some common ground somewhere that might form the basis for a deal that might not solve the entire problem, but would at least help. He really had a knack for compromise and horse trading. At least in my view -- which may have some partisan bias -- the modern Republican Party equates compromise with treason. LBJ's favorite verse from Proverbs, "Come, let us reason together," fall on completely deaf ears on that side of the aisle these days. But Sen. Biden never took disagreement personally, and could always disagree without being disagreeable. And ALWAYS kept his eye out for common ground. Those qualities are much needed on both sides of the aisle today.
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One need only review what the dim-retards -- including Biden -- did to justices Bork and Thomas to see the origin of the current dysfunctional political situation in D.C.
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Well said. You won't find much reason or common sense around these parts. You're right about the republicans though. The party has been hijacked and they view compromise as weakness and would rather shut the government down than do what's best for the country. Boehner was much like Biden, he was a guy willing to reach across the aisle and he was kicked out because of it. And now the fucking idiots can't even get behind a common person to guide the party.
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You're a fucking lying moron, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas. A self-avowed socialist is on the dim-retard presidential podium, and your dumb-ass is trying to stupidly sell the notion that the Republican party has been hijacked and carried to the right, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas? It's the dim-retards who have moved to the extreme left, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.
Exhibit A, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas:
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10-22-2015, 07:12 AM
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Betcha he has a job waiting for him at the Clinton Foundation in Jan. 2017.
Guess he thinks the country needs "Clinton values".
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True. It is no secret that both the Bidens and the Obama's hate the Clintons and despise what they stand for. But, for the sake of "the Party", they are willing to let a lying, conniving, money grubbing Bitch march right to the nomination.
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10-22-2015, 07:28 AM
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One need only review what the dim-retards -- including Biden -- did to justices Bork and Thomas to see the origin of the current dysfunctional political situation in D.C.
You're a fucking lying moron, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas. A self-avowed socialist is on the dim-retard presidential podium, and your dumb-ass is trying to stupidly sell the notion that the Republican party has been hijacked and carried to the right, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas? It's the dim-retards who have moved to the extreme left, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.
Exhibit A, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas:
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Actually, Bork was so extreme he was patently unqualified. And had Biden let the three witnesses testify who would have backed up Anita Hill, Uncle Clarence would be an obscure footnote in history.
But if you're looking for the origin of the politics of personal destruction, you missed it. Jim Wright. The blood is on Newt's hands. Even had Bork and Thomas not deserved what they got and more, they would have been, at best, partial payback for Wright.
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10-22-2015, 07:36 AM
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"Even had Bork and Thomas not deserved what they got and more..."
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You just conceded the point, TTH.
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10-22-2015, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by TexTushHog
Yeah, that's one reason I seldom stop in this section any more. It's like a junior high locker room. The quality of the discussion is rather lacking. Plus, I'm spending more time overseas as I more toward retirement. Events in the US don't seem as important to me these days. It kind of like something that is happening elsewhere, though I'm still here 70-75% of the time or so.
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Sounds like a good life. Enjoy. I'll be spending quite a bit of time overseas next year too.
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10-22-2015, 11:36 AM
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One need only review what the dim-retards -- including Biden -- did to justices Bork and Thomas to see the origin of the current dysfunctional political situation in D.C.
You're a fucking lying moron, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas. A self-avowed socialist is on the dim-retard presidential podium, and your dumb-ass is trying to stupidly sell the notion that the Republican party has been hijacked and carried to the right, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas? It's the dim-retards who have moved to the extreme left, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.
Exhibit A, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas:
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10-22-2015, 12:25 PM
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You just conceded the point, TTH.
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Actually, YOU just conceded the point, but you're too stupid to know it.
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10-22-2015, 12:38 PM
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Actually, YOU just conceded the point, but you're too stupid to know it.
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Once again you'd be the lying turd, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas. TTH conceded that Bork and Thomas were, in fact, abused by the dim-retards, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.
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10-22-2015, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TexTushHog
I have mixed feelings. Biden entering the race would help Bernie Sanders, who I'm supporting. But I recognize that HRC is likely to be my party's nominee. And while I personally like Joe Biden (and no, that is really a figure of speech, I don' know him, but I have met him four or five times), I'm not sure that he would be a better President on domestic matters than would HRC. I do, however, trust his judgment more on foreign policy than I do hers. He is much less a hawk than she is. I'd be delighted to work for either one, or for Bernie, who I think is a breath of fresh air in the increasingly centrist Democratic Party.
But I think in the end, he correctly analyzed the situation. I have heard through the political grapevine that he is still deeply grieving from the premature death of his son Beau (the second child that he has buried, BTW). And while it is terribly unfair that that period of grief has taken away his last opportunity to run for President, time waits for no man. It's just the way it is. But he is a very decent and caring man. He deeply loves this country and wants the best for it. I hope he continues to be active in our country's public life well past the end of Obama's presidency.
One of his unique gifts was the ability to get along with almost anybody. He loves people. And back before the two parties became so polarized (and you can guess who I think is responsible for the vast majority of it), he was one Senator who could be counted on to make the rounds and see if there was some common ground somewhere that might form the basis for a deal that might not solve the entire problem, but would at least help. He really had a knack for compromise and horse trading. At least in my view -- which may have some partisan bias -- the modern Republican Party equates compromise with treason. LBJ's favorite verse from Proverbs, "Come, let us reason together," fall on completely deaf ears on that side of the aisle these days. But Sen. Biden never took disagreement personally, and could always disagree without being disagreeable. And ALWAYS kept his eye out for common ground. Those qualities are much needed on both sides of the aisle today.
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You just conceded the point, TTH.
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Once again you'd be the lying turd, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas. TTH conceded that Bork and Thomas were, in fact, abused by the dim-retards, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.
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He said 'even if they hadn't deserved the treatment they got', but the truth is they did, so he concedes nothing.
And you do nothing here on this board every day if not prove that there is a polarization that prohibits progress. You would watch Rome burn if it meant you got to be right. You're the worst kind of citizen. You don't truly care about this country, you care about being correct and winning an argument.
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10-22-2015, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by WombRaider
He said 'even if they hadn't deserved the treatment they got', but the truth is they did, so he concedes nothing.
And you do nothing here on this board every day if not prove that there is a polarization that prohibits progress. You would watch Rome burn if it meant you got to be right. You're the worst kind of citizen. You don't truly care about this country, you care about being correct and winning an argument.
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You remain a lying turd, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas. TTH conceded that Bork and Thomas were, in fact, abused by the dim-retards, and your dumb-ass quoted him on it, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.
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10-22-2015, 05:07 PM
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You remain a lying turd, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas. TTH conceded that Bork and Thomas were, in fact, abused by the dim-retards, and your dumb-ass quoted him on it, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.
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They deserved what they got. You can't read or comprehend what you're reading.
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10-22-2015, 05:12 PM
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They deserved what they got. You can't read or comprehend what you're reading.
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It was pure partisan abuse, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas, and wholly undeserved.
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10-22-2015, 05:25 PM
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It was pure partisan abuse, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas, and wholly undeserved.
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Says you. Be gone, you faggot from Chicago. Swishy walk your ass on down to the local gay watering hole and find a Village person to take you home.
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