"BECAUSE CONGRESS WON'T ACT"

[TheDaliLama]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Not bad you only used I five times.

I was going to say something about your moronic post but I think I'll let it speak for it's self.

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by WTF

All they have to do is act and then they wouldn't have to act all butt hurt!

in your signature style you have missed all points again

not only did you slough off any consideration of the assault on the constitution
you misplace any fault by shruggingly and idiotically blaming congress

responding to your ever thoughtless posts is quite otiose but....

congress did act..they shelved the harry reid/senate bill

that is action

much the same as when harry reid shelved the hundreds of bills congress sent him

the real fault lies with Obama

no one trusts him..he is unworthy of the placement of trust

some "comprehensive" bill would see only selective execution by Obama

every thinking person knows it

any border security portion would be re-defined by Obama and his minions into some unrecognizable molly coddling or ignored

Obama should be impeached and convicted of high crimes and misdemeanors

[Whirlaway]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

in your signature style you have missed all points again

not only did you slough off any consideration of the assault on the constitution
you misplace any fault by shruggingly and idiotically blaming congress

responding to your ever thoughtless posts is quite otiose but....

congress did act..they shelved the harry reid/senate bill

that is action

much the same as when harry reid shelved the hundreds of bills congress sent him

the real fault lies with Obama

no one trusts him..he is unworthy of the placement of trust

some "comprehensive" bill would see only selective execution by Obama

every thinking person knows it

any border security portion would be re-defined by Obama and his minions into some unrecognizable molly coddling or ignored

Obama should be impeached and convicted of high crimes and misdemeanors

Initially I thought impeachment should be off the table....but not any longer. Our ruling class didn't take an oath that swore to uphold their right to be re-elected; they swore to uphold the constitution.

The GOP should draft articles of impeachment; if public opinion moves against them, so be it. I don't think it will. The GOP should stop obsessing about winning the White House back in 2016. Restore the balance of power to Congress and the White House doesn't become so all important.

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

in your signature style you have missed all points again

not only did you slough off any consideration of the assault on the constitution
you misplace any fault by shruggingly and idiotically blaming congress

responding to your ever thoughtless posts is quite otiose but....

That's why WTF is the moronic buffoon.



(bigkotex smilicon for emphasis)

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

congress did act..they shelved the harry reid/senate bill

that is action

much the same as when harry reid shelved the hundreds of bills congress sent him

the real fault lies with Obama

no one trusts him..he is unworthy of the placement of trust

some "comprehensive" bill would see only selective execution by Obama

every thinking person knows it
....

+exactly

That's why the Senate bill wasn't picked up by Boehner. He and other Republicans (even those who voted for the bill in the Senate) expressed great concern that the bill would be selectively enforced - effectively gutting it of the key provisions that enabled it to pass with bipartisan support.

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by TheDaliLama

I was going to say something about your moronic post but I think I'll let it speak for it's self.

Stay on the porch. Good decision on your part.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

If government would simply enforce the laws we have, we wouldn't need reform. And please note, you fascist statists, that Congress is still a part of government. If they don't act, there is still no legal basis for the President to act unilaterally. That's in the "fucking" Constitution you despise, AssupLiar.

Not acting may represent the will of the people.

+1

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Sadly, most of the establishment Republicans agree with the Democrats on immigration. They want cheap labor.

Don't expect the GOP Congressional leadership to make any major moves against Obama's Amnesty EO; just like Obamacare, they will talk the talk, but not walk it.

Personally, I think conservative voters should give up on any expectation of trying to win the presidency. Focus on winning local and state wide elections. AND getting rid of GOP leadership in Washington !

It's been that way for decades.

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Initially I thought impeachment should be off the table....but not any longer. Our ruling class didn't take an oath that swore to uphold their right to be re-elected; they swore to uphold the constitution.

The GOP should draft articles of impeachment; if public opinion moves against them, so be it. I don't think it will. The GOP should stop obsessing about winning the White House back in 2016. Restore the balance of power to Congress and the White House doesn't become so all important.

So what's the end game then? HOR drafts articles of impeachment and then there's close to a party line vote (maybe) in the Senate. You turn on the TV every day to see the major media incriminate the Republicans as being racist. Then in 2016 you lose the House, Senate and WH. Wakeup.

Time for better tactics. The only way to move America more to the right is incrementalism and a stronger media hand. Once (if) the House, Senate and Presidency turns back to the Republicans you can implement more conservative fiscal policies. HOWEVER, if the Republicans start insisting on banning abortions and implementing more conservative social policies you are not going to get anything accomplished.

[Whirlaway]

I agree 100% and that is what is happening across the country - incremental steps in the right direction. From local to state elections the GOP is becoming more conservative and more constitutionally minded. Even in Congress there are more TP minded serving that before. It is happening incrementally. And currently there are more and better conservative media driving the agenda than five years ago. In the meantime, the reverse is true for liberals. CNN, MSNBC, broadcast is declining. Not so for the conservative media - cable, internet, publishing.

The number of state houses and governor seats that are controlled by the GOP - many of them TP conservatives - is higher than anytime in our country's history !

To table impeachment makes no sense; the GOP brand is winning all across the country. The shutdown didn't hurt the GOP ONE IOTA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't believe the bullshit coming out of the silk stocking (Bush Family - Chamber of Commerce) wing of the GOP.

Originally Posted by gnadfly

... The only way to move America more to the right is incrementalism and a stronger media hand. ... .

[WTF]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

Obama should be impeached and convicted of high crimes and misdemeanors

[WTF]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

So what's the end game then? HOR drafts articles of impeachment and then there's close to a party line vote (maybe) in the Senate. You turn on the TV every day to see the major media incriminate the Republicans as being racist. Then in 2016 you lose the House, Senate and WH. Wakeup.

Time for better tactics. The only way to move America more to the right is incrementalism and a stronger media hand. Once (if) the House, Senate and Presidency turns back to the Republicans you can implement more conservative fiscal policies. HOWEVER, if the Republicans start insisting on banning abortions and implementing more conservative social policies you are not going to get anything accomplished.

True dat...who stole your computer?

[LexusLover]

UPDATE: On ObamaOnImmigrationExecutiveOrd er:

http://online.wsj.com/public/resourc...tionruling.pdf

"unconstitutional" ....

[Whirlaway]

Our "Constitutional Scholar" president has one of the worse track records of being constitutional - very fitting for the most phony of all presidents.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Our "Constitutional Scholar" president ...

He's not, and he makes sure he has only "yes" people "backing him up."

Hopefully, his gaggle of want-a-bes will appeal the ruling and it will affirmed.

Right now ... it is ruled "unconstitutional' .... page 22 of the opinion.

Cuba is his latest tyranny.

[JD Barleycorn]

Missouri high school students are taking a hit because of the Mad Boy-Kings executive order (which he hasn't signed yet). They have a program that a high school graduate with a 2.5 minimum average can get a scholarship for a community college in Missouri. Now that Obama has issued his memorandum that makes all the illegals in Missouri high schools (if they say that they are living in Missouri) eligible for the same program. So now the program is being cutback for lack of funding.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

Obama should be impeached and convicted of high crimes and misdemeanors

You missed that thread!