BBBJ vs CBJ

[sixxbach]

BBBJCIM.........

There is no substitute!

sixx

[WyldemanATX]

I agree with Sixx BBBJCIM is the only way to go.

[KissLover]

6 has a way with acronyms

[RALPHEY BOY]

@Sophia, yes very unlikely you will contract anything from daty, I agree but the risk is still there, and you can contract an std from bbbj, yes, perhaps higher risks but risks non the less.

My beef is simple, if you are going to be cbj then you need to be no daty,,risks are risks..I do not see the logic in saying " cbj only because I am safe, but you can eat my pussy"

like speeding while driving, going 66mph is not as dangerous as going 80mph but its still a risk

if anyone is all consumed with the risks then stay at home and do not participate,
not such thing is 100% safe except for celibacy

[Sensual Sophia]

Originally Posted by RALPHEY BOY

@Sophia, yes very unlikely you will contract anything from daty, I agree but the risk is still there, and you can contract an std from bbbj, yes, perhaps higher risks but risks non the less.

My beef is simple, if you are going to be cbj then you need to be no daty,,risks are risks..I do not see the logic in saying " cbj only because I am safe, but you can eat my pussy"

like speeding while driving, going 66mph is not as dangerous as going 80mph but its still a risk

if anyone is all consumed with the risks then stay at home and do not participate,
not such thing is 100% safe except for celibacy

It's perfectly logical because the risk of one is SIGNIFICANTLY lower than the other. Just read about it. Giving BBBJ has an actual documented risk -- check out stats for throat gonorrhea in gay men for instance.... there is no documentation I could find that anyone has ever caught a disease from receiving DATY. So you have the one actual documented risk versus the other theoretical risk.

It's like choosing to wear a helmet while you ride a motorcycle -- "risks are risks", yes, but you are lowering your risk by riding a helmet. Would it be better not to ride a motorcycle at all? Certainly it would. But to say because riding a motorcycle is dangerous even with a helmet then there is no point in wearing a helmet at all is the illogical statement.

You said no provider has ever answered your question. I JUST DID. If you can't see the logic in it then I don't know what to tell you.

[kaiser]

I've been a hobbyist for years, and don't believe BBBJ's are very risky, but not a fan of BBBJCIM. CBJ's are almost worthless.

[RALPHEY BOY]

Originally Posted by Sensual Sophia

You said no provider has ever answered your question. I JUST DID. If you can't see the logic in it then I don't know what to tell you.

Let me rephrase that: No CBJ Provider has answered my question as to why they only do CBJ but allow daty

I like your motorcycle analogy, I own a bike I ride with and without my helmet. I can die just as easy with or without a helmet, helmet only protects my head, if
If I fly over the rails into oncoming traffic my odds are not good. CBJ only protects your mouth.

I agree you are reducing your risks by not doing a bbbj but I cant wrap my mind around it..
we are not going to see eye to eye. I doubt I would ever change my stance on this.It may have something to do with that would make me feel slighted if a Provider told me "CBJ only but you can daty me",

thank you for replying

[Fratelli]

This doesn't seem so difficult. We each have to act on our own concerns and perception of risk. If a provider is concerned about the risks of BBBJ, she can offer CBJ only. That is her choice. The risk, to her, of DATY is very small, relatively speaking, so she may choose to allow that. Now, if YOU are concerned that doing DATY on a provider poses a risk to you, then don't do it - no provider is going to force you to. That is your choice.

For me, the rewards greatly outweigh the risks.

[WyldemanATX]

There is more Risk for GAY men Think about where the raw dick has been in other gay men.

[WyldemanATX]

Where are the stats on straight women or even bi women giving BBBJ to straight men. hummmm I wonder if there is any?

[Guest052711]

Anything but abstinence (from kissing, touching, oral, and penetrative sex) increases your risk above not participating in those things. Some are obviously at higher risks than others. How people PERCEIVE and act on those risk variables is rarely logical (look at how men decide which female partners are "clean" enough to ask for bareback knowing nothing of their STD status or women who decide rules based on how much she likes the guy).

Some women don't kiss, allow fingering, DATY, bbbj, bbbjcim, bareback, and anal all on some PERCEIVED risk evaluation. The list of things men don't allow is nearly nonexistent (except receiving anal sex). The difference makes at least some sense, because when you're the one penetrating, risk is immensely lessened.

Statistically women are highly unlikely to contract any STD from receiving DATY, but performing BBBJ (especially CIM) is a higher (but still considered low) risk activity. Men are unlikely to contract an STD from either, but one (BBBJ) presumably offers them a higher reward than DATY. The receiving partner on either, mostly only has herpes to have any legitimate concern over (which you'd be much more likely to see oral herpes anyways). However, the performing partner of BBBJ's has nearly the full spectrum of STD's to have some (though varying and nearly all invisible) concern over.

Depending on which side of the risk vs. reward fence you're standing on determines which will be acceptable or "too risky." Women who require CBJ but allow DATY do so because their risk is lowered on the performing side and the reward is higher on the receiving side.

[sixxbach]

Well we already know what I think of this topic but I had to make sure I was under you again....

sixx

[Guest052711]

Originally Posted by Wyldeman30

There is more Risk for GAY men Think about where the raw dick has been in other gay men.

If they're the penetrator their risk is low, nearly to a heterosexual man's level, it's receiving anal sex that's most dangerous.

Either way, that's why you shouldn't put your "raw dick" anywhere but your committed partner's holes.

[Guest110911]

all this talk of bbbj and cim is making me horny...lets keep all the gay men having butt sex talk...out of it. thanks.

[WyldemanATX]

I understand your point Maddie. I was just pointed out what was said about statistics and it was not on straight males with straight or bi females.

I will use condoms with women in two holes. I only will not use them if in a committed relationship and she is on the pill.