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07-22-2014, 09:55 PM
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Just a few months ago, Putin was the conservabot hero on this board. More manly than President Obama, more aggressive. Just the all-around manly man that the right-wing lemmings around here were wishing we had in America.....
Not so much today, eh? Fucking idiots.
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Timmy..... We conservatives said Putin was too much for Obama, and he still is.
Romney warned about Russia (see the related thread) and Obama mocked him.
Conservatives advocated for a large military which Reagan championed and we were right, and we won the cold war. Conservatives have always been anti-communist....remember Chiang Kai-shek (a Chinese political and military leader who served as the leader of the Republic of China between 1928 and 1975. He is known as Jiang Jieshi or Jiang Zhongzheng in Standard Chinese-wikipedia) versus Mao Zedong, (also transliterated as Mao Tse-tung and commonly referred to as Chairman Mao, was a Chinese Communist revolutionary and the founding father of the People's Republic of China - wikipedia)?
Conservatives took sides against commies (i.e. 60's bomb throwing radicals who are today's Democratic party)
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07-22-2014, 10:01 PM
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Old-Trollop? knock out game players are your heroes, that and Oacorny
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07-22-2014, 10:06 PM
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#18
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Old-Trollop? knock out game players are your heroes, that and Oacorny
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Typical IIFFy comment: stupid, off topic, and pathetic. What, pray tell, does that comment have to do with Vladimir? Oh, that's right, nothing. Just like most your posts it is empty clattering noise.
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07-23-2014, 02:14 AM
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"... my only two points were that:
1) A lot of people on here would have started WW-III and WW-IV if they were in charge, so I am very glad they are not
2) Just because Putin is as homophobic as some of the posters here doesn't make him a "family values hero".
No Bush comment by me, no claim that Obama is doing great. A lot of RRWs on here can't comprehend that a lot of people think that B&O are both seriously inept."
End of quoted material
Presence and Overwhelming Force Strength coupled with the demonstration that the U.S. is ready, willing, and able to utilize it, will be the best strategy for preventing WW.
Barn yard birds get it, why doesn't the chicken in the White House?
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07-23-2014, 04:45 AM
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Nope, Gonad, there were lots of RWW Thumpers praising him for being the "defender of family values" and his strong stand on fundamental Christian values. Don't tell me you forgot the whole gay stomping mentality of some on here, fawning all over Vlad. I'm sure you do.
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So you don't have anything to say about the Dem Socialists who lauded Putin when he pulled Obama's butt out of they Syrian Red Line fire? When even the Dem Socialists wouldn't even back him up and let him bring up a vote before the Senate for military action? You do remember this, Old-racisT?
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Lots?
Really?
Who?
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It's the Old-racisT "RWW Bible Thumper" meme. He's lifted it off Hillary with a little modification. Yeah, The country's conservative Christians are getting their marching orders from the former KGB Communist. Evidently he didn't understand the sarcasm of my use of "Putin/Hillary 2016!" battlecry.
BTW, I don't see how Old-racisT can say that some wanted to start WWWIII when Obama couldn't even get Republican cover for an air strike into Syria. When did the Republicans ever turn down a cruise missile strike?
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Originally Posted by timpage
Just a few months ago, Putin was the conservabot hero on this board. More manly than President Obama, more aggressive. Just the all-around manly man that the right-wing lemmings around here were wishing we had in America.....
Not so much today, eh? Fucking idiots.
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...And Timmie Troll is gone!
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In fact, I believe it was the MSM and a lot Socialist Democrats that lauded Putin for negotiating a chemical weapons agreement after BHO's failed Syrian Red Line....
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Again, few want to address the facts. Right, Eva?
Is Assad "the bad guy" anymore? What about the Libyan Rebels? Boko Harem? Putin? The Israelis? The Taliban?
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07-23-2014, 08:22 AM
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So you don't have anything to say about the Dem Socialists who lauded Putin when he pulled Obama's butt out of they Syrian Red Line fire?
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I thought it was a "yellow" line ...
... or was that me thinking of the streak down Obaminable's back?
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07-23-2014, 09:27 AM
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So you don't have anything to say about the Dem Socialists who lauded Putin when he pulled Obama's butt out of they Syrian Red Line fire? When even the Dem Socialists wouldn't even back him up and let him bring up a vote before the Senate for military action?
You do remember this, Old-racisT?
I seem to forget where I praised Obama for his Syrian work. Care to refresh my memory? No, that's right, I didn't. Great job of ignoring the original topic.
It's the Old-racisT "RWW Bible Thumper" meme. He's lifted it off Hillary with a little modification.
Wrong, Gonad. While I certainly cannot claim to have coin the term, it far predates Hillary. I heard the term at least as far back as the 70s.
And though I doubt you will answer--because you can't, just as IB couldn't, nor could IIFFy--if you claim I am a racist, what race am I? I know you won't answer it, but that sure doesn't stop you from slinging the term around. Truth was never really one of your strong points, was it?
Yeah, The country's conservative Christians are getting their marching orders from the former KGB Communist. Evidently he didn't understand the sarcasm of my use of "Putin/Hillary 2016!" battlecry.
No, some of the RWWs on here don't need marching orders from anyone. They are quite capable of being terminally stupid on their own. Aren't you?
BTW, I don't see how Old-racisT can say that some wanted to start WWWIII when Obama couldn't even get Republican cover for an air strike into Syria. When did the Republicans ever turn down a cruise missile strike?
Since you are comprehension impaired I will explain it in simple terms: I never said anything about the "republicans" starting WW-III, I was talking about some of the truly ignorant ideas put forth by some of the RWW posters on here. Well, if the republican senators and congressmen are actually disguised as you and IB, etc., then I would be, but somehow I really doubt that is the case.
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I see you skipped over the topic (again), so here is some light reading in case sometime you want to actually figure out what the point was:
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...sia-gay-rights
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten...kremlin-summit
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten...propaganda-war
http://www.buzzfeed.com/lesterfeder/...mpics-in-mosco
Some really cool stuff in there about the World Congress of Families ("U.S. Conservatives To Go Ahead With “Pro-Life Olympics” In Moscow Despite Ukraine Crisis ")
Sound like basic Thumpers to me. Sure 'nuff do.
Many right-wing groups, including the World Congress of Families, have enthusiastically praised Russian President Vladimir Putin’s new focus on opposing gay rights and abortion access, promoting large families, and close alliance with the Russian Orthodox church, while conveniently ignoring the role these “family issues” play in his consolidation and expansion of power. When Russia seized Crimea from Ukraine two weeks ago, that dynamic became harder to ignore.
In fact, the World Congress of Families, an offshoot of the Howard Center on Family, Religion and Society, has done more than ally with Russia’s leaders as they seek to impose harsh anti-gay policies in their own country. The group has also brought its advocacy to Ukraine, where it has worked to push anti-gay legislation backed by pro-Russia, anti-EU groups in the lead-up the governmental crisis
- See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten....NXKCZL9K.dpuf
Many right-wing groups, including the World Congress of Families, have enthusiastically praised Russian President Vladimir Putin’s new focus on opposing gay rights and abortion access, promoting large families, and close alliance with the Russian Orthodox church, while conveniently ignoring the role these “family issues” play in his consolidation and expansion of power. When Russia seized Crimea from Ukraine two weeks ago, that dynamic became harder to ignore. - See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten....NXKCZL9K.dpuf
Many right-wing groups, including the World Congress of Families, have enthusiastically praised Russian President Vladimir Putin’s new focus on opposing gay rights and abortion access, promoting large families, and close alliance with the Russian Orthodox church, while conveniently ignoring the role these “family issues” play in his consolidation and expansion of power. When Russia seized Crimea from Ukraine two weeks ago, that dynamic became harder to ignore. - See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten....NXKCZL9K.dpuf
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07-23-2014, 09:40 AM
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After all, "all you RWWs look the same"...
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Hard to tell 'em apart, isn't it?
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07-23-2014, 10:53 AM
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That is a large part of the problem--people who look at that and see immutable perfection instead of a great leap forward (not the Mao kind) they has improving and adapting to do.
Notice how that picture is a bit devoid of diversity? How many owned slaves? Not a lot of women gathered around the table. The Atlantic was the equivalent of the Maginot line at the time, and the Pacific wasn't even a glimmer in the minds. Texas? Why it was yet to be swiped from the Mexicans. Many of the details were written in as logical concessions to technology and economy of an agrarian society but many people now assume they were divinely inspired (by writers who were nowhere near the fanatical Thumpers as we have on here).
That group of men put down some truly revolutionary and brilliant thoughts, but I doubt any of them envisioned the way it is viewed and interpreted today. Keep the good parts and adapt those that are no longer the right words.
By the way, where does the constitution talk about the evils of gay marriage? I can't remember.
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07-23-2014, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Old-T
That group of men put down some truly revolutionary and brilliant thoughts, but I doubt any of them envisioned the way it is viewed and interpreted today. Keep the good parts and adapt those that are no longer the right words.
By the way, where does the constitution talk about the evils of gay marriage? I can't remember.
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The above quote reminds me of a sign I once saw on the back of a vehicle.
"Jesus is coming back and he's pissed!"
If that group of men came back ..... I think they would be pissed also.
"Where does the constitution talk about the evils of gay marriage?"
You are kidding, right?
Do you honestly believe any ONE of them perceived two guys marrying each other, much less discussed it during their thoughtful deliberations?
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07-23-2014, 02:14 PM
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The above quote reminds me of a sign I once saw on the back of a vehicle.
"Jesus is coming back and he's pissed!"
If that group of men came back ..... I think they would be pissed also.
"Where does the constitution talk about the evils of gay marriage?"
You are kidding, right?
Do you honestly believe any ONE of them perceived two guys marrying each other, much less discussed it during their thoughtful deliberations?
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Actually, no, I don't believe they discussed it. But more importantly I believe if someone had brought it up they would have personally disapproved but felt it was between a person and their god, not something for laws to prohibit.
As to the bumper sticker, I absolutely believe Jesus is unhappy with the way we have distorted his words.
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07-23-2014, 03:06 PM
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Actually, no, I don't believe they discussed it. But more importantly I believe if someone had brought it up they would have personally disapproved but felt it was between a person and their god, not something for laws to prohibit or facilitate as the case is becoming.
As to the bumper sticker, I absolutely believe Jesus is unhappy with the way we have distorted his words ... and failed to abide by them.
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Added by 2 cents.
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07-23-2014, 08:02 PM
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Old-racisT, read one link about one guy from one organization both of who I never heard of. So who cares? Interesting how Timmy Troll has bailed on this thread and you've decided to defend it. Again, consider it your RWW thumper meme. Next time name names.
Look forward to your list of posters who want to start WWWIII or IV. Please lead with your most well known Poster making a definitive statement
Nope, other than you being a Democratic Socialist, I never said you personally lauded Putin for pulling Obama's ass out of the fire from the Syrian Weapons Of Mass Destruction mess. You do remember, don't you?
The Obama Administration said Assad had used Chemical Weapons. Then they denied they said it. Then Assad used them again a few months later. Then the Obama administration said they weren't sure. Then Obama said there was a red line. Then Obama said they were determining if Assad had used them or the rebels. Then Obama said he didn't draw the red line, the international community did. Then he said he was going to do a surgical strike. Then conservatives, moderates, and liberals said that wasn't a good idea. Then Obama said he was going to take it to Congress after the weekend. Then leaders from both Houses said NOT A GOOD IDEA as....blah, blah, blah....
Then Putin came in to broker a deal and he was embraced by Democratic Socialists as a hero because Obama again looked less feckless and less a repetitive bungler of international affairs.
You do remember, don't you?
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07-24-2014, 04:39 AM
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You do remember, don't you?
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He actually does. He was hoping "we" didn't!
That's the MO with the self-ordained "intelligencia" of the Liberals, who have this self-induced delusion they are smarter than the Conservatives, and can therefore bullshit them into believing what ever the Liberals want to regurgitate at the time.
That is how they keep their voting base. Convincing others they know better, and are willing to pay for their votes with additional entitlements.
So they think it works all the time.
Hopefully for all of us, including them, the Fall election results and the pen of Judge Roberts will cause a course correction that will save all of us, including them, from a collision course onto the rocks the Liberals have deluded themselves into believing do not exist, and are desperately trying to convince the rest of us is merely a figment of our over-reactive "imaginations" or engrained prejudice against those sucklings who are dependent on the entitlements they ladle copiously with the taxpayers' money.
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07-24-2014, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by timpage
Just a few months ago, Putin was the conservabot hero on this board. More manly than President Obama, more aggressive. Just the all-around manly man that the right-wing lemmings around here were wishing we had in America.....
Not so much today, eh? Fucking idiots.
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So sorry about your coming ass fucking Timmie but Time magazine has now said that Putin is like a Russian Ronald Reagan without a shirt. I bet that hurts (I hope it does) and I was the one who said it first. Though it must be repeated over and over for people like Timmie, I never said I liked Putin or what he did but I do recognize, like Time magazine has now recognized, that Putin is that popular because he is the macho man of Russia. He shoved Hillary down a flight of stairs (how do you think she got that head injury), shoved a ball gag into Obama's mouth, and slammed the door into Kerry's square head.
http://time.com/#3020513/why-russians-love-putin/
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