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Old 02-01-2013, 03:12 PM   #16
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Default Wow. Ed Koch tombstone...

Even in death, he goes out with a bang. Here is the NY Daily News article:

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.1253155

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The words chosen by Ed Koch to mark his final resting place are a quote from murdered journalist Daniel Pearl: “My father is Jewish, my mother is Jewish, I am Jewish.”

The line was Pearl’s last words in 2002, just before The Wall Street Journal reporter was killed on camera by terrorists.
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BUT! BUT! BUT! Look at the actual inscription on the tombstone.

The Daily News engaged in some PC censorship by paraphrasing the second part of the inscription on the tombstone. They dropped the word "Muslim" in front of terrorist.



The inscription reads "Daniel Pearl, 2002, just before he was beheaded by a Muslim Terrorist"

THAT'S Ed Koch for you. He never pulled any punches. He called a spade a spade
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Old 02-04-2013, 06:29 PM   #17
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Default A POST-MORTUM ON THE KOCH YEARS........NOT GOOD !

Ed Koch: Entertaining but No Reformer

He saved New York City from an immediate fiscal crisis but mortgaged its long-term future to public unions.

By FRED SIEGEL at WSJ on line....

After the death of former New York Mayor Ed Koch on Friday, the outpouring of affection focused largely on what he said, not nearly so much on what he did. And so it was with his mayoral administration. There was the ebullient Ed Koch who first came into office in 1978 and governed in part like a good magician who keeps the audience focused on his spiel and not on his hands, and the Ed Koch who continued in office for eight more problematic though generally prosperous years after an ignominious gubernatorial run in 1982.



Between 1969 and 1977, New York lost an inconceivable 600,000 jobs and 200,000 housing units. The city had vast stretches of abandoned industrial sites, vacated apartment buildings, gas stations and storefronts as well as empty lots over run with garbage. Crime kept rising and morale kept falling.

But not even the collapse could shake New York's political culture. The city's 1977 Democratic mayoral primary brought out a pack of traditional liberals, including Congresswoman Bella Abzug, New York Secretary of State Mario Cuomo and the hapless incumbent, Abe Beame. They all had union backing of one sort or another, and the next mayor seemed certain to emerge from their ranks.

Then came the July 1977 blackout and widespread looting and arson. Most of the Democratic candidates talked about how the city needed to become a more caring place. Only one candidate, Ed Koch, who was an also-ran until then, called for bringing in the National Guard to knock heads. He surged to the fore.

Speaking in the voice of the outer-borough white working class, he understood their disgust with standard-issue liberal rhetoric. He described himself as a "liberal with sanity," as opposed to the "wackos." It was, he realized, not just your position on crime but how you conveyed your feelings about crime that counted. Koch won the primary by a hair and then took the general election.

It's true that his wit and sarcasm raised the city's morale, but perhaps more important was his close cooperation with New York Gov. Hugh Carey, who has gone virtually unmentioned in the encomiums to the former mayor. Koch's willingness to control spending allowed Carey to effectively aid the city's finances from Albany. Even more crucial was the collaboration of the two former members of Congress in blitzing Capitol Hill to win the renewal of federal loan guarantees for the city. The guarantees allowed the city to restructure its enormous local debt, the annual cost of which would otherwise have left the city insolvent.

After Abe Beame, Koch seemed like a giant, but the real giant—the power of the public-sector unions—remained intact. Koch entered into his first set of labor negotiations with a list of 61 givebacks he intended to demand, but he didn't get a single one. Instead the unions lobbied for and won pay increases. During Koch's first four years, the public unions, though diminished in the 1975 fiscal crisis, increased pay at a compound rate of 26% so that the city's total compensation costs continued to rise.

Koch's attempts at even small-scale structural reform failed. He got nowhere with civil services or welfare reform. He couldn't even eliminate the uniform allowance for city workers who didn't wear uniforms. But the inflation that sunk President Carter came to the city's rescue by reducing the cost of its debt. Ronald Reagan's 1980 victory, also virtually unmentioned in the encomiums, led to a revival of Wall Street that once again began to pump money into city coffers.

Buoyed by both a landslide victory in the 1981 mayoral election and the reviving economy, Koch foolishly—he later ascribed it to "hubris"—decided to run for governor against one of the candidates he had defeated for mayor, Mario Cuomo. After his statewide defeat, Koch took his eye off the ball in New York City. While his patter was as snappy as ever, he began to reinstitute the very policies that had sent the city into the ditch in the first place.

Koch the reformer, with city funds overflowing, was replaced by Koch the conventional New York politician. He made peace with the collection of social service agencies, "community activists," "civil libertarians" and public-sector trade unionists who lived off the city payroll. A massive new housing program paid off in some solid results but also saddled the city with an unsustainable cost structure.

Between 1980 and 1989, the city budget nearly doubled, growing almost as rapidly in absolute terms, and relative to private-sector value added, as it did in the 1960s. Koch added 57,000 full-time positions to the city payroll, more than offsetting the job cuts instituted during the 1975 crisis. By 1990, when Koch was succeeded by David Dinkins, the size and cost of municipal government was as big as it had ever been.

David Dinkins's four years in office were shadowed by the threat of the Financial Control Board, which had temporarily taken over the city's finances under Beame, coming back into power. Mr. Dinkins fought them off with threats of a racial confrontation. It wasn't until the first term of the Rudolph Giuliani administration, when it became clear that his welfare reforms were beginning to reduce the city's cost burdens, that the threat of a Financial Control Board takeover receded.

Ed Koch was a wonderful figure, a great tummler, but he was not, despite the suggestion of all the tributes, an effective manager of New York City.

Mr. Siegel is a scholar in residence at St. Francis College and senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute.
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Old 02-04-2013, 06:39 PM   #18
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Never knew this, but Koch fought at the Battle of the Bulge.
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