ATTN: Banned members of ASPD

[Guest072311]

Originally Posted by SofaKingFun

Just something to consider: Some members may have been banned for very valid reasons and some of these reasons you may not even be aware of. Perhaps maybe even a danger to the community...??

Just saying, while your intentions may be honorable, proceed with care because you may unknowingly be doing more harm than good.

He is more concerned with reviews but that time is gone.....

[enderwiggin]

Originally Posted by SofaKingFun

Just something to consider: Some members may have been banned for very valid reasons and some of these reasons you may not even be aware of. Perhaps maybe even a danger to the community...??

Just saying, while your intentions may be honorable, proceed with care because you may unknowingly be doing more harm than good.

This was brought to my attention almost right after I made this offer. Its a moot point now, since ASPD is gone.

However, I have long since noticed that one site's "banned member" is another site's most prolific and respected poster. I don't see anything wrong with letting people have their own reviews for their records, should they choose to repost them. When they repost them, they're hobbying reputations will follow and that has to be a good thing, right? If they're an angel or a devil, people will recognize the reviews or the handle or the writing style and say, "I remember old so-n-so. He was a (fill in the blank)."

I'm not vouching for anyone or trying to get them in the VIP section. They have to do that for themselves, as always.

[Guest072311]

Originally Posted by enderwiggin

Reproduce from them at your own risk. They may choose to ban you, kill your reviews, I suppose even sue you but I highly doubt that. I believe this type of statement is intended to protect the site interface from being hijacked or reproduced elsewhere, not necessarily the content of the reviews. My thoughts are that the experience is mine and if I choose to write about it here also, who's gonna stop me?

I think dropping him, banning and killing the reviews are most likely...a suit would be interesting, but proving the point would be expensive and since there are just dreams anyway....well stated ender....

[TBONE]

Allowing everyone to start with a clean slate is not the same thing as embracing everyone who have been banned and welcoming them with open arms. Let's be careful with that....it seems to be going a little overboard.

[enderwiggin]

Originally Posted by TBONE

Allowing everyone to start with a clean slate is not the same thing as embracing everyone who have been banned and welcoming them with open arms. Let's be careful with that....it seems to be going a little overboard.

If I overstepped the boundaries of proper behavior for this board, I'm very sorry and will of course accept whatever repercussions I've earned. I viewed my actions as the "clean slate" your referred to, not open arms.

[AustinBusinessTraveler]

Originally Posted by ss4699

I think dropping him, banning and killing the reviews are most likely...a suit would be interesting, but proving the point would be expensive and since there are just dreams anyway....well stated ender....

Actually, making their point would be easy. All they have to show is that you copied the text you posted. Whether the information is factual has no relevance.

Short answer. Make new experiences and post those experiences here.

[TBONE]

Originally Posted by enderwiggin

If I overstepped the boundaries of proper behavior for this board, I'm very sorry and will of course accept whatever repercussions I've earned. I viewed my actions as the "clean slate" your referred to, not open arms.

ok give me 10 push-ups and never let it happen again

[SofaKingFun]

Originally Posted by enderwiggin

This was brought to my attention almost right after I made this offer. Its a moot point now, since ASPD is gone.

However, I have long since noticed that one site's "banned member" is another site's most prolific and respected poster. I don't see anything wrong with letting people have their own reviews for their records, should they choose to repost them. When they repost them, they're hobbying reputations will follow and that has to be a good thing, right? If they're an angel or a devil, people will recognize the reviews or the handle or the writing style and say, "I remember old so-n-so. He was a (fill in the blank)."

I'm not vouching for anyone or trying to get them in the VIP section. They have to do that for themselves, as always.

I don't think that it is a moot point because one of the sites that you've mentioned is still alive.

Most prolific posters and respected posters are two entirely different things. They are mutually exclusive. Just because a person is a frequent poster doesn't necessarily make him a good guy. He's just posts often.

Further, a member's reputation doesn't necessarily follow a person -to an extent, certainly it can, but that doesn't necessarily make it so.

If a person was banned from a site for say, roughing-up a woman, a persistent stalker, outing someone, or things of that nature, and he was subsequently banned from Site A because of that, and you're allowing him to build his reputation/street cred on Site B by assisting in capturing reviews in his stead, and no one is aware of his behavioral history on Site B, you're exposing Site B to a danger through your efforts.

Do you really know the person who's behind the handle and do you know why the person was banned? If this person fucks-up and does the same thing here that they did over there and you knowingly assisted in his rep-building are you going to be alright with that?

You're free to do what you want. I'm just saying that you could be doing more harm than good.

[Guest072311]

To repost a review:
HIGHLIGHT the information you wish to transfer from the ASPD format by dragging across the text with your mouse or pointer, then hold the <control key> and press the <C> key. This will copy the information into memory. Move to the matching section in the ECCIE and use <control key> and press the <V> key to paste it in….

HOW THEY MATCH:
Review (title) goes to Review (title)
Date goes to DATE
Provider goes to Provider
Phone or Pager goes to Phone
Email Address goes to Email Address
URL / Website: goes to URL / Website
City goes to City
State goes to State
Area / Address goes to Address:
Appointment Type goes to Appointment Type
Provider Category NOT USED
NOT USED goes to Did the Appointment take place at the agreed-upon time?
Activities goes to Activities
Session Length Scheduled goes to Session Length
Fee goes to Fee
Hair Length and Color goes to Hair Length and Color
Was Tipping or Upselling an issue? NOT USED
Was the Description you were given accurate? NOT USED
Age goes to Age
Race goes to Nationality
Perfume/Fragrance: not used
Smoking Status: goes to Smoking Status
Where did you hear about this provider? Not used
Provider`s Body goes to Physical Description
Comments goes to The Rest of the Story:
Would you recommend this Provider to others? Goes to Recommendation

ASPD FORMAT
Review: Willow Walker - A woman of art and passion
Date: Sept 19, 2006
Provider: Willow Walker
Phone or Pager: 512-612-1695 (pager)
Email Address:willow@itouch.net
URL / Website:http://www.itouch.net/~willow/escortAL.html
City: Austin
State: Texas
Area / Address: South Side
Appointment Type: Incall
Provider Category: Independent
Activities: conversation, drink, LFK, DFK, TLS, DATY, CBJ, BLS,
CFS,light rubdown, seconds required, couples shower, more conversation,
art purchase from Dagny.
Session Length Scheduled: 1 hour
Fee: $$.80
Total Paid: $$$
Was Tipping or Upselling an issue?
Was the Description you were given accurate? yes
Hair Color and Length: auburn, short
Age: 4+
Race: Anglo
Perfume/Fragrance: Fresh and all Natural
Smoking Status: Could Not Tell Either Way
Where did you hear about this provider? ASPD - previous client
Provider`s Body: Sparkling eyes, athletic build, 5' 3", 36C, great smile, great hands, toned and tanned body of a twenty something!
What was the Provider's Attitude like? I'm glad you choose me. Come here my long lost love! I need your touch and tenderne
Comments: ACL Fest time again. I've learned alot about Austin, ACL, ….As she moved from one to the other, I was in extreme ecstasy. My eyes closed were closed as I was over come by passion, it overcame me and clouded my mind. As she continued to pleasure me,….The lady is special in so many ways.
Would you recommend this Provider to others? Yes

ECCIE FORMAT
Review: Test only
Date: none1
Provider: none2
Phone: none3
Email Address: none4
URL / Website: none5
City: none6
State: Kansas
Address: none7
Appointment Type: Other
Did the Appointment take place at the agreed-upon time?: No Activities: none8
Session Length: none9
Fee: none10
Hair Length and Color: none11
Age: none12
Smoking Status: I Couldn't Tell
Nationality: none13
Physical Description: none14
The Rest of the Story: none15
Recommendation: No

[enderwiggin]

Originally Posted by SofaKingFun

If a person was banned from a site for say, roughing-up a woman, a persistent stalker, outing someone, or things of that nature, and he was subsequently banned from Site A because of that, and you're allowing him to build his reputation/street cred on Site B by assisting in capturing reviews in his stead, and no one is aware of his behavioral history on Site B, you're exposing Site B to a danger through your efforts.

Do you really know the person who's behind the handle and do you know why the person was banned? If this person fucks-up and does the same thing here that they did over there and you knowingly assisted in his rep-building are you going to be alright with that?

You're free to do what you want. I'm just saying that you could be doing more harm than good.

That's excellent insight and, admittedly, something I didn't consider when I
made the offer. I didn't see the potential harm in giving someone their reviews, but it's a moot point now. I've already sent those that requested my help their reviews and they will do with them what they will. As always, we will have to trust in our community here and each provider's own screening/vetting methods to keep us safe.

I will sleep with a clean conscience though. I'm not going to be made to feel responsible for someone else's willful actions, no more than a gun store owner should be made to feel responsible if someone commits a crime with a gun he sold.

[SofaKingFun]

Cool! Thanks for understanding. I'm sure that you had the best of intentions but I've been playing in this sandbox a fairly long time and some of the crap that people pull will surprise you.


Peace and Happy Hobbying!

[MsElena]

OK, I have a question about banned ASPD/Home2 members. If a provider was banned from both sites for blackmailing/trying to blackmail clients, is she accepted here?

[latinalover]

kinda what i was thinking sofa

[enderwiggin]

If sets anyone's mind at ease, the majority of the people I helped weren't banned at all. They are just less tech-savvy and needed help transferring.

[SofaKingFun]

Originally Posted by MsElena

OK, I have a question about banned ASPD/Home2 members. If a provider was banned from both sites for blackmailing/trying to blackmail clients, is she accepted here?

I think I know who you are referring to, Ms Elena. Good question.

It's probably best to ask this question by starting a new thread in the "Ask The Staff" forum because it'll likely get lost in the mix here...or maybe not..? good question though.