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davephx · 03-23-2018, 03:44 PM

Being foreign doesn't solve the legal problem just ask all the Russians indicted etc. TER is based in Amsterdam last I knew, although someone said moved to So Africa and they shut down their ad boards already. The US has criminal agreements or treaties with most countries to go after website owners, managers etc under the new law.

tia travels · 03-23-2018, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicole Cox

...Poviders need to start making new websites that are camouflaged...

I would assume if the provider is not doing any trafficking, she shouldn't have to worry about anything more than she does right now with getting busted. The act goes after traffickers, correct?

easymoe · 03-23-2018, 03:59 PM

No the act goes after websites and website owners.

xfrankthetankx · 03-23-2018, 04:09 PM

The definition of trafficking in the law is very broad. Which is part of the constitutionality argument.

The overseas issue may become an issue because of a bill in the Omnibus Budget Bill titled the CLOUD Act.

How many of these sites have servers in the US that contain data. That may be the key of why overseas registered sites are shutting down their US operations.

VegasJen · 03-23-2018, 04:10 PM

^^^^This is true, unfortunately, there are those who believe we are all trafficked in some form and are just too dumb and desperate to know it. Wrong as they may be, they have the backing to push this and we are definitely the underdogs in that fight. There in lies the battle. Legalized marijuana is a perfect example here. Look how long it took to get the masses to finally concur and agree to a yes vote. Even though the majority of pot users were completely harmless, the push against them was huge and since they were the ones engaging in the illegal activities, they had no leg to stand on. They scored a huge break with all of the scientific studies showing that marijuana had valid medical uses. Now the govt is backing off of the easy mass target (pot smokers) and focussing on drugs that pose legitimate threats. I believe there is likely a blueprint in there that we can follow, but its vague at best. Should we all get degrees in psychology, push for a bunch of govt grants for the study on the beneficial psychological effects of sex and companionship and label ourselves as sex therapists? Thats just one idea, no promise it could ever work... But that is probably the type of battle we will have to wage in order for our voices to ever be heard and taken with a grain of salt.

pyramider · 03-23-2018, 04:14 PM

Taint is a unifier, not a divider. More people should follow their taint and the world would be a better place. Not enough people listen to their taint. VegasJen's taint is probably asking to have taint photos posted.

VegasJen · 03-23-2018, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by VegasJen

^^^^This is true, unfortunately, there are those who believe we are all trafficked in some form and are just too dumb and desperate to know it. Wrong as they may be, they have the backing to push this and we are definitely the underdogs in that fight. There in lies the battle. Legalized marijuana is a perfect example here. Look how long it took to get the masses to finally concur and agree to a yes vote. Even though the majority of pot users were completely harmless, the push against them was huge and since they were the ones engaging in the illegal activities, they had no leg to stand on. They scored a huge break with all of the scientific studies showing that marijuana had valid medical uses. Now the govt is backing off of the easy mass target (pot smokers) and focussing on drugs that pose legitimate threats. I believe there is likely a blueprint in there that we can follow, but its vague at best. Should we all get degrees in psychology, push for a bunch of govt grants for the study on the beneficial psychological effects of sex and companionship and label ourselves as sex therapists? Thats just one idea, no promise it could ever work... But that is probably the type of battle we will have to wage in order for our voices to ever be heard and taken with a grain of salt.

This was meant in response to Tia. When I started typing, hers was the last post. Y'all are responding too fast, lol.

VegasJen · 03-23-2018, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pyramider

Taint is a unifier, not a divider. More people should follow their taint and the world would be a better place. Not enough people listen to their taint. VegasJen's taint is probably asking to have taint photos posted.

I only have 1.3" of taint. It wouldn't be much of a photo... ;-)

xfrankthetankx · 03-23-2018, 04:21 PM

The fear is strong right now while knowledge is limited.

carmenryder · 03-23-2018, 04:30 PM

Invest in Nord VPN & you will be stil go anywhere on the net after the new law goes into full affect.

xfrankthetankx · 03-23-2018, 04:37 PM

Look up the CLOUD Act that was signed by the President today as part of the Omnibus Budget Act.

VPNs may not be as safe as they used to be because of that act.

Becca Blossoms · 03-23-2018, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lynette

Seems unconstitutional to me.

I believe it is.

Snurfma · 03-23-2018, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicole Cox

I started this when I was 21 yrs old and now I'm 35. back then we advertised in the newspaper and in the phone book. This is the oldest profession in the world we will adapt. I feel bad that some girls just aren't prepared for this and will wind up back on a street corner.

Poviders need to start making new websites that are camouflaged and make sure their phone numbers are posted on all the boards before they disappear..which reminds me.. My phone number will be posted on my bio today. If you have an interest in seeing me you should probably get it while you can.

Funny, I just checked local newspaper the other day and there's pretty much no place for an escort ad anyone.

The Indy girls I knew were not tech savvy enough to use the dark net nor are most of us boys so things could get ugly.

Any one know if the old IRC boards still exist? A solution needs to decentalized.

My understanding is the Tor browser is the way onto the Dark Net, anyone know a good primer on how to use it?

Remember ISP'S can block out of country website with a static IP address and they could fuck with the DNS servers so when you type in goodBJ.com it will not find the server. Careful what you download and be safe IRL.

xfrankthetankx · 03-23-2018, 05:37 PM

DOJ says it is, but Congress passed it anyway.

It's a tactic used by pro-lifers and others to create a court challenge to advance their agenda (in the case of pro-life overturning Roe v Wade).

Congress is under pressure from well funded groups that have spent years creating the all sex work is human trafficking narrative.

Plus it's an election year.

How many of those spineless wonders do you think have the stones to go back home to negative ads about being pro-human trafficking?

xfrankthetankx · 03-23-2018, 05:43 PM

I think TER pulled their ads because they are the only site with a presence that could be argued as national.

Regional sites are the way to go.

The wording of the final bill is key.

The dark net is where the dregs of BP (the real traffickers) will go.

Lots of sites will be shutting down over the next 90 days or so (I think both bills have a 90 day start date) as legal teams and groups that usually protect pornographers and attempts at expanding the definition of obscenity law. That and strip clubs when they end up in situation involving serious charges.

Be careful, scrub everything you can and go old school with a black book.