Does supply and demand apply to pricing?

[TexTushHog]

Of course supply and demand apply to this market. But any number of factors may lead to seemingly analogous results in many markets. Imperfect information is one that was a huge factor in years past. Fortunately this board and other resources have help to reduce the extent to which that applies.

Another issue is the leg; status if the hobby. That puts increased downward pressure on the supply by raising the potential costs of being a supplier. Same with the social stigma that is applied to the hobby in many circles.

As for the “some guys have a lot if money and don’t care about price argument, the easy reply is “Duh, of course,”. That does t Jean supply and demand doesn’t apply. Done guys buy Ferrari’s and don’t care about the price, too. That wealth effect — which is a well know component of demand in any number of markets — is even more pronounced in the hobby where absolute routes are very low. Nobody has to plunk down a half a mil plus to fuck a perceived premium provider like they do to buy a Ferrari SF90 Stradale no do they.

[Chung Tran]

Originally Posted by GayleMeyers

And upkeep of the entire production isn't just about a few feminine products ...

So that's why I have been scoring cheap on Listcrawler. No feminine products budget!

[Pangolier]

Originally Posted by TXSUN55000

Oh my, and not to tick anyone off, but do the basic elements of supply and demand play any role in DFW or am I just not aware of the demand? Reason being, it seems like the standard hour is north of $500 these days and, in some instances, north of $1000. Is there that much demand and not enough providers in the DFW area or am I just shopping at the wrong mall? ha! Just noticed a provider asking $1400 for 30 minutes. Hello?!

Of course there is a supply / demand correlation. There have been discussion topics on this before, which I have participated on ECCIE. The bottom line is: girls are going to charge the highest possible rate "they can get away with." And why not, that's why you open a business, right? If I open an auto cleaning business, and charge $300 to clean your car... Well, if people are WILLING to pay that amount continually, then I'm running a successful business. The question is, who is going to be persuaded that I'm not going to leave a single speck of dust anywhere on the interior or exterior, and that someone else out there won't offer the same quality for less?


The girls in this business want to support their lifestyle, no matter how extravagant or modest it may be. They will adjust their rates based on how many customers they are getting, and what their monthly expenses are. Most people can do simple math.


So basically, as long as someone is willing to pay for it, you'll be able to sell it. If a girl could just persuade one guy per month to pay her 10,000 for an hour, then she makes 10,000 a month. If she can persuade 100 guys to pay her 100 per hour, she makes the same amount, it still equates to 10,000 per month.


What you are noticing are the changes in the industry that have happened since 2020. Predominantly, people in what have been defined traditionally as lower and "middle" income brackets are struggling financially. While very high income earners, or those with extremely high value assets are not. If the girls in this industry can successfully and consistently pursue the men in the second category, then their rates will continue to go up. And that's what has been happening since covid hit.


Look up tulip bulb mania on google, it's a phenomena that happened in the Netherlands in the 17th century. Same thing with bitcoin. As long as someone, or a group of people are willing to pay a price for a good or service, it will continue to have a profitable market. The very moment "everyone" decides something is not valuable, or simply not worth the asking price today, that's when things start to change. But as long as girls can continue to pick up customers from the 8 figure income bracket, then nothing will change in this industry. In fact, things could potentially get worse from here on out. Unless you thing all rich men will spontaneously lose their sex drive due to some paranormal reason, I don't see this situation improving...

[BLM69]

Originally Posted by oldbutstillgoing

They can't afford the toys they want, so they bitch and whine about it all the time instead of finging toys they can afford

Wrong pop's! overpaying for low quality shouldn't be supported , open your eyes and see what's being offered. 60+ year olds still selling pussy is a crime against seniors

[oldbutstillgoing]

Overpaying to you is a bargain to someone else. There was a gal on here a few years ago that did geriatric porn. She looked far better in her 60's than a lot of 40's. Not my cup of tea, but she stayed busy.

And those that remember Dragon Fly, who was in her 50's was definitely worth every dime she charged

[Wile E Coyote]

Originally Posted by BLM69

Wrong pop's! overpaying for low quality shouldn't be supported , open your eyes and see what's being offered. 60+ year olds still selling pussy is a crime against seniors

Exactly.

Because I have multiple ladies I see who have honored their donation price for me since they started, I the providers who start at a high rate and the ladies who have doubled or more the rates they started with have.

While it is true that value is determined by the individual consumer, for the men out there who are concerned about the money they spend, I am pretty sure that most of the ladies have priced themselves out of the market and their service is no longer of any value to them.

[nono]

If you look at Houston pricing you will see it is lower. I believe the Dallas markets adjustors are keeping the price at certain level. Other markets pricing are lower.

[Bald Bryan]

I think y'all are trying to force textbook economics onto an unregulated, underground, highly volatile and overly saturated industry so that the current landscape of what you see can be justified. Drive yourself nuts if you try and figure out how such an underground market works.

For every 3-400 lady on p4 or oh2, there's a 1-200 one on snapchat, twitter, seeking or even on the street. We just get frustrated because the 200s are hard as hell to find without digging around. And aside from what the 400 ladies will try and tell us, their price alone doesn't make them any better (or worse) than the 200s.

Now the 1400 hhr listing. Not to justify or attack that amount of money as that's not my place, but she's a mainstream pornstar and that's why she gets that price. At least that's the case if the lady in question there is Lauren Phillips.

[oldbutstillgoing]

look, understanding market economics or putting on blinders and ignoring them makes little difference in the short term. Prices are, overall, rising. Like it or not, whine or not, that is the truth. Deal with it.

There are more women asking for and getting higher rates. If they wern't, they would drop their prices. Some guys can afford it, others can't. Call them simp's or what ever. Truth is, they are getting laid by whom they want and don't mind paying market rates for it. Higher rates do not,by themselves, mean better service. Just like the price I pay for eggs today does not make them better eggs than 2 years ago. But if I want eggs, I pay what the market says I have to pay.

It matters nothing at all if you agree, like it, or not. It is what it is.

[BLM69]

Originally Posted by Bald Bryan

For every 3-400 lady on p4 or oh2, there's a 1-200 one on snapchat, twitter, seeking or even on the street.

That's correct,.this is why I laugh at the quality and rates of some in here. Too many better younger sexy options in other places

[ImpossibleDreamer]

Remember, all of this economic theory of supply and demand and other aspects is based upon assumptions that include the the parties to a transaction are rational actors.

A hard dick with cash in the pocket is rarely a rational actor.

[Wile E Coyote]

Originally Posted by GayleMeyers

Uh ..... WRONG!
Incalls come with expenses. The consequences of getting caught are quite severe. And upkeep of the entire production isn't just about a few feminine products ...

You are right. If you have an incall that is other than your place of residence already, you have that added expense. Keep in mind though, unless you pay your daily room rate per customer, after your first customer of the day, then instead of about 35% or less of your donation rate going towards your in-call expense, then 100% of it is yours. So unless you just see one customer at your incall a day, that I do not see how that can be very expensive.

You are also right about the consequences of being caught breaking the law. Since you are raising your rates due to that, let me ask you, are you saving that extra money so that you can have the bond money ready whenever you do get caught? I highly doubt that. I believe that the same rationale applies to providers who charge more for BBFS thinking that they are not going to pick up an STD.

I did not realize that the ladies used makeup, can of hairspray, body wash, ect. and after they used it once then they throw it away to buy more? How many times a day do you eat? And when you do eat are they $200+ meals each time? Do you buy new clothes and after you have worn them just once you throw them away and buy new ones again?

[oldbutstillgoing]

ROFLMAO You guys try being an escort and see how expensive it is, especialy if you try being above average.

And the bottom line is, they don't have to justify their rates to any of us. Ever. So unless you are a pimp covering the expenses, why do you care at all? Either pay their rate or find someone cheaper. All your whining has never changed any rates, makes you look like a spoiled brat, and chases off providers who don't want to deal with the hositility here

[Joddxxx]

Depends on the state and city.

[LustyBustyGina38FF]

Originally Posted by oldbutstillgoing

ROFLMAO You guys try being an escort and see how expensive it is, especialy if you try being above average.

And the bottom line is, they don't have to justify their rates to any of us. Ever. So unless you are a pimp covering the expenses, why do you care at all? Either pay their rate or find someone cheaper. All your whining has never changed any rates, makes you look like a spoiled brat, and chases off providers who don't want to deal with the hositility here

You know never going to make them understand why Provides charge what they do ..
For every troll who thinks he can run how providers should charge. There will be real men paying her going rate high or low ..

They only care , as to they want to tell providers and hobbyist what the going rate should be lol
Not going to happen ever we change what we want to don't like it to bad, don't contact providers who are not in your price range or stop BITCHING not doing you any good or change anything ..