Will this board adapt to allow forums for Homosexual Hobby Related activities?

[Guest062114-5]

Originally Posted by TSKrystiKakes

I agree gay male providers shouldn't be allowed. Other area is fine for TS reviews, I see nothing at all wrong with that idea, if fact would cut down all the trolls and flamers on our reviews.

I mean, everyone should be welcome here, but having Gay Males as Verified Providers just seems burdensome. I think it's a moot point because I think the Gay community would prefer their own safe place anyway.

Kristi, I need to stop by in Other more often...it's a fun place!

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by Dorian Gray

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Food for thought.

I agree...... and Time has gone by and will continue to do so..... hence my question in regards to future plans.....

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by TSKrystiKakes

I agree gay male providers shouldn't be allowed. Other area is fine for TS reviews, I see nothing at all wrong with that idea, if fact would cut down all the trolls and flamers on our reviews.

that's another thing.....as far as "another board"? Gay males DONT LIKE TS, they like MEN, as narrow your views are, all aren't. Gay men HATE TS pre or post op. They like MEN

I am not discussing the mechanics of it.....

I simply prefer the idea that the target audience here will remain heterosexual men and there will not develop forums for MM FF and who knows what else....

It's bad enough that we are surrounded with advertising daily but as a concession it is at least targeted towards heterosexual and typically depicts pretty ladies....

How will people feel if they wake up one morning and the ads link to some guy taking it up the ass from some other guy and ads targeted at gay males?

[TSKrystiKakes]

Originally Posted by Whispers

I am not discussing the mechanics of it.....

I simply prefer the idea that the target audience here will remain heterosexual men and there will not develop forums for MM FF and who knows what else....

It's bad enough that we are surrounded with advertising daily but as a concession it is at least targeted towards heterosexual and typically depicts pretty ladies....

How will people feel if they wake up one morning and the ads link to some guy taking it up the ass from some other guy and ads targeted at gale males?

THATS what u DONT get, the guys that see us TS ARE heterosexual.......seriously, u need to talk to a guy that likes TS, ask him if he is gay and why not, maybe then u will understand, opinions do vary.....GAY men like MEN u dolt!!! lol sheesh!

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by TSKrystiKakes

THATS what u DONT get, the guys that see us TS ARE heterosexual.......seriously, u need to talk to a guy that likes TS, ask him if he is gay and why not, maybe then u will understand, opinions do vary.....GAY men like MEN u dolt!!! lol sheesh!

I have not stated a problem with TS's

This thread was not started as a discussion about TS's

It is about how far the board will go as the community grows.....

Will it lose it's current focus which seems to be heterosexual men?

In regards to your statement "GAY men like MEN" I agree.... You sir are a man and when a man engages in a sexual act with you it is a gay/homosexual act. That is my opinion.

Once again though... Discuss the thread and future of ECCIE>.. This is not a T/S discussion....

[LNK]

Originally Posted by Whispers

At the moment, in Austin, we have a Post-Op TS receiving Verified Provider Status and a Showcase. His stated opinion is that he has no obligation to tell and although he currently HAS it in his profile there is no obligation for him to do so.

Personally, I have no desire to read anything from or about him...... Nor do I have any desire to see any of the other types of information I mentioned in the OP.

The day I log in and there are ads for men seeking male customers, showcases for men, review sections for all the different freak shows that others enjoy will be one day too long that I stuck around.

I am not that open minded.

I guess I'm the bearer of bad news, then. You've stuck around too long.

Originally Posted by Wakeuр

This is already embraced on the board...the Other Review forums are absolutely teeming with these encounters...as they should be...

As much as it irks me to say so, I agree with Wakeup's post. That ship has already sailed.

Originally Posted by Dorian Gray

Food for thought.

Note the other part highlighted in RED.

Seems to me you're pursuing a personal agenda.

I haven't heard of or seen any posts advocating for male providers here. Perhaps you've seen some that I've missed?

Personally, I can't even picture myself with a TS, but I don't see what the problem is. As far as I can tell, TS providers aren't interested in "tricking" anyone into seeing them.

As someone said earlier, if you don't like it, don't read it. You'll soon learn whose posts to avoid, and hopefully won't be scarred for life in the process.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by Eva Damita

I was actually thinking of posting a similar thread. There are women hobbyists as there are men, and male providers as there are female. It would be great to accommodate everyone being that the entire hobby itself proved taboo to the civie world.

Originally Posted by Whispers

No it wouldn't.

That is actually what I am concerned about.

I would prefer a much more close minded approach and charter that makes this a private club dedicated to the exploration of the hobby in relation to genetically female providers.

The rest can find another board.

Originally Posted by Wakeuр

This is already embraced on the board...the Other Review forums are absolutely teeming with these encounters...as they should be...

I find the closed-minded interpretation somewhat concerning. As Wakeup points out, there are already many variations on the theme in Other Reviews, and it goes well beyond that with massage parlor reviews, Another Realm posts, etc. This is a very diverse umbrella we operate under and while I would like to see the site be ecumenical, I think it is reasonable to have separate areas--similar to what we already have. Certainly a male escort area is no farther afield than the political forum.

Personally I am only interested in the ladies, but even within that there are topics (such as the gang bang one on this page) that are not my cup of tea. Easy enough for me to not go there if I don't want to. And if the male escort pages were separated, the same would apply--those who are interested can go there, those who are not don't have to.

[Wakeup]

Originally Posted by Whispers

and at what point do they "spill out" and want their own forums? And when they do what does the board do?

That's why the question.

I would rather see a policy adapted early enough to send that business off to other boards and not be open to it here on ECCIE....

Think of the ads we could get bombarded with!

They already have their own forums for their reviews. Their discussions about the hobby belong in Co-Ed just like any other discussions. The board doesn't have to do anything.

We get ads already, why does anyone care what those ads are for as long as they make money for the board.

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by Wakeuр

They already have their own forums for their reviews. Their discussions about the hobby belong in Co-Ed just like any other discussions.

How would "Male Male" discussions be CoEd?

[Old-T]

I have no problem about that, but there are separate forums for discussion of other sub-groups of the bigger escorting world so I would see nothing wrong with a separate forum for that either.

Either way, I don't see it as a big deal.

[OldTexas65]

Whispers, for someone who says, "I dont want to hear or read about these type of things" You sure seem to have a LOT of input on the Austin thread about this young person. Could it be that you speak out of both sides of your mouth?

[Whispers]

Not at all.... What am I saying different here than there? That thread is about one specific person.... This is about policies/guidelines and the future....

But the idea of a Post op TS not labeling his self as one prompted thought on the subject....

I think that TS's is about as as far into "fetish" as I care to see things go..... there are few of them to contend with....

If the board opens up to the whole homosexual community/ same sex interactions....... at some point we have a bit too much in our faces every day.....

[Cpalmson]

As stated, I think there are viable forums to discuss the activities associated with the OP. I'm not gay. I don't condone gay activism b/c I think those individuals have an agenda that is destructive to our society as a whole. By that, I mean those in the gay community who want their lifestyle to be considered "normal'. They are not normal. For the vast majority of gays, I think they are perfectly content with keeping silent. It is the small minority that ruin it for the entire community. I say live and let live, but don't flaunt your behavior in my face. Having said that, I see nothing wrong with gays having a place on ECCIE to discuss and review. Heck, I don't mind if there are male providers out there with showcases-- be it hetero or homo sexual.

[Wakeup]

Originally Posted by Whispers

How would "Male Male" discussions be CoEd?

First, you must have missed the description of the forum..."Hobby-related discussions belong here. Let's keep these discussions on-topic, thought-provoking, and more importantly...entertaining!" That's a legitimate side of the hobby, and is perfectly open to being discussed there.

Second, Co-Ed means that both sexes can participate in the discussions, not both sexes are required to participate in the sex act to discuss it, they're free to discuss male-male material as well. Why would that change?

[Guest062114-5]

Originally Posted by Wakeuр

First, you must have missed the description of the forum..."Hobby-related discussions belong here. Let's keep these discussions on-topic, thought-provoking, and more importantly...entertaining!" That's a legitimate side of the hobby, and is perfectly open to being discussed there.

Second, Co-Ed means that both sexes can participate in the discussions, not both sexes are required to participate in the sex act to discuss it, they're free to discuss male-male material as well. Why would that change?

Wasn't it named Co-ed Discussions on ASPD way back in the day because that was the only place ladies could post?