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Old 10-25-2011, 08:27 PM   #16
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I agree with Sillygirl. Its much easier for some of us ladies to be seen in public with clients while we're out of town. Too much explaining to do if I run into someone I know while I'm out on the town with a client.

As for the topic at hand........Fsn said it best.

Dinner dates are usually longer than an hour or two, so having a nice dinner (lite) isn't a problem. Just makes both people want to sleep after BCD.
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Old 10-25-2011, 08:31 PM   #17
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. . . some of the comments in this thread are one of the many reasons I trend toward finer accommodations with room service when possible.

Funny though, how many gentlemen never pick up the phone in my suite to order in, but they still get plenty to eat.

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Old 10-25-2011, 08:34 PM   #18
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I enjoy dinning/lunch/drinks/ hell even music lol. I've done both before and after BCD. Like Redwolf and Omahan I consider it social time.
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Old 10-25-2011, 08:43 PM   #19
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Well it must be nice that so many of you get so much free time. Lucky for me my dates enjoy watching me eat.
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Old 10-25-2011, 10:28 PM   #20
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Let's be honest. We like dinner dates because it gives us a reason to go to someplace nice and order things we shouldn't have. Face it. In real life we are generally fat, lazy slobs. So a good meal can be as exciting as good sex.

SG, uh, you going to finish that?
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Old 10-25-2011, 10:42 PM   #21
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I am not a big fan of dinner before BCD. A drink or two is fine, fun, and fantastic.

Afterwards, if we connect and there is mutual interest, I am happy to take a lady out for dinner or her favorite lunch. It won't happen if she wants me to pay her to watch her eat.
Seconded, I wouldn't drop a large amount of money on a really nice dinner and then pay to watch a woman eat it... unless of course she was there overnight anyway. I mean the point would be to have some nice company to keep the illusion of the GFE up (which is notoriously mis-named IMHO), however if you want to have drinks and talk to women, your local gentleman's club is full of women who would probably drink with you. It's usually not too hard to find one who just wants to talk about her day... (that is until the inevitable "stripper drama" plays out).

Certainly that varies by market, goal, etc... escorting is literally companionship for hire... and that's it.. .time. But it's a nice legal fiction in most cases (or why would you see "services"... ahem). I guess my point is that it makes me smile that we say, "Hey! you're paying for my time nothing else!" then we post reviews where we say "yes" or "no" depending on the QUALITY of that time right? No no, not the services... lol. Right.

So we use "for my time only" to skirt certain realities, but then cling to it in circumstances otherwise... *shrug* but that's ok.. opinions vary.

I once knew a girl... who is a provider in the area, who I knew BEFORE she was a provider and just stumbled on the fact she was providing now. We'd hung out several times before, gone out as friends, etc. However, I said casually, hey why don't we go out sometime get a drink and catch up, she quoted me a rate. So that friendship was done. Sad. Different situation certainly.

You're mileage may vary for sure on this subject, I'd say that providers have different ideas on it. Lots of times its based on bad experiences or warnings... but it never hurts to ask. Just be cool.
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Old 10-25-2011, 11:00 PM   #22
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Let's be honest. We like dinner dates because it gives us a reason to go to someplace nice and order things we shouldn't have. Face it. In real life we are generally fat, lazy slobs. So a good meal can be as exciting as good sex.

SG, uh, you going to finish that?
You said it COG, and I will add we, the guys are nothing more than green backs to the providers and it wouldn't matter if we met in the landfill or the Ritz. Sillygirl defines the relationship well. COG if recreational space travel would ever become possible you could book yourself and SG on a trip to the moon and she will still demand the 3 bills/hr.
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Actually you would probably be surprised by how flexible I can be. My quoted rate for a five day trip to San Francisco (with my days to free to do what I want) was only a smidge more than my overnigh rate. Regular clients with good chemistry get lots of perks.
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Old 10-26-2011, 09:29 AM   #24
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I don't like to eat before BCD activities. I feel I'm at my best if I'm not weighed down with food. I have went out for lunch/dinner off the clock afterwards, it just depends on my plans for the day/evening if I have the spare time.
I like to have a couple of drinks though, usually while at our appointment. By no means is it necessary.
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Old 10-26-2011, 09:32 AM   #25
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Well it must be nice that so many of you get so much free time. Lucky for me my dates enjoy watching me eat.
It's not free time it's time with a friend. I only spend social time with ladies I know pretty well or who invite me.
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You said it COG, and I will add we, the guys are nothing more than green backs to the providers and it wouldn't matter if we met in the landfill or the Ritz. Sillygirl defines the relationship well. COG if recreational space travel would ever become possible you could book yourself and SG on a trip to the moon and she will still demand the 3 bills/hr.
A bit cynical Buzz lol. Lilianna is just being upfront about her expectations. I was talking about this very thing, over a late dinner with an lady in town over the weekend lol. Her take was each lady finds what works for them. Some enjoy the interaction some don't. And thankfully don't mind being seen in public with an older man, thru I've been told I've aged well Lilianna lol.
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Old 10-26-2011, 10:36 AM   #27
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I dont mind going out for dinner and or drinks when i am visiting a city but i dont like to be expected to go for free. I dont expect for a gent to pay my full hour rate to hang out for drinks or have dinner. I do however think that if thats what you would like to do then please just do a longer appointment, If you just want to get together for drinks or dinner hey no problem and we can work out a rate for just that. I hate just to be expected to give away time becuase its something other than BCD but as much as it sucks of me to say this time is time spent wether BCD or just dinner/drinks.

I cant wait to see you gents this weekend !
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I have met providers for before-session dinners or have been asked to go out after session for dinner or drinks; the before-session were part of a multi-hour date, the after-session were at the provider's request and, therefore, were not part of the session (although I did pick up the tab for dinner). Rule of thumb - if you ask, you pay; if she asks, you don't.
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Old 10-26-2011, 11:05 AM   #29
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Rule of thumb - if you ask, you pay; if she asks, you don't.
Sounds like an actual GFE lol Good rule!
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Just curious as to what you guys and girls feel about meeting for a drink or dinner date before the main event?

I find these work well for me as they really give a break the Ice period to get that out in the open! Meeting in a public place first seems to be safer as both parties can assess the other better! Whether an in or outcall. I always find them enjoyable but that's just me

Another question is cost ? Should it be the normal hour fee? A reduced rate? Or no charge based on prelude to the grand event?
There are two points you have made:
  1. Break the IceMeet in Public (it is safer for both parties to assess each other)
    Enjoyable to meet first is BS, it is difficult for both of you
  2. Should you pay for this?
    Yes, don't be cheap! It doesn't look good
The whole point for meeting first is to determine if it is safe for both parties to continue, but you should always pay for the girls time - that is her income, it is not a date where you might get a reward for dinner (or just a drink because you are such a fine catch), don't confuse the two.

It is safety you are talking about. Even if you find that you do not have an attraction for this woman; be respectful and give her some time for the meeting and go on your way. It is better for both of you. You got to see the preview, but it isn't free.

The public meeting place is OK, but being seen by a lot of people has some problems. Not knowing who you are seeing has more. The reviews only go so far. The telephone conversation should tell you a lot. Do you feel comfortable talking to her? If not, call another. What is her review history (all of it)? Want to be sure, meeting first is OK. I have had mixed results on this: some like the idea - especially if they are UTR, they want to be sure of you. Some have just said that they feel OK, come on over.

What is the final thing: It is something like getting to first base on a first date. Do you, or she, want to go on? If she is dirty, drunk, or high; just walk away and give her a payment for seeing you. It will keep her from screaming at you in public, and she will be happy to get paid for "not working". What did you get out of this? SAFETY! There are girls out there who will rob you, or worse. Don't be a part of it.

As for the screening services: do you really want the possibility of someone showing up at your place of work, or calling your family? Calling the police it in option, but some people know it would be an embarrassment for you and they just don't care about being embarrassed. Be prepared to call their bluff.

Keep one thing in mind, if you meet first - they are applying for the job, not you. You can reject them and you might think you now owe them nothing. But you made the appointment as a FINAL review, you had the free review on the phone, and you chose to continue. For every professional job interview, even for short term work, the companies who hire me have paid for the travel and meals to come see them. It is expected, so pay for her travel time.

If you reject the job applicant, you do not owe the full employment rate.

Like any job they are expected to show up on time, and be prepared to work the time they were hired for.

Breaking the ice? BS! Is it time for you to relax first, and get up your courage? If so, that is something else, and it is your problem.

Both parties want to know, one way or another, if this meeting is to be a nice experience.

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