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02-13-2020, 02:09 PM
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You are the standard for hypocrisy.
You support the fat lying bastard and his cohorts who have given themselves a president who can’t be investigated, indicted or impeached.
Then you piss and moan like a pussy claiming Sanders will turn the Country into Venezuela. When the reality is the fat lying bastard is attempting to rule this country like a third world dictator and you obviously support that attack on democracy.
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"Can't be investigated, indicted, or impeached. "
And what was your dear Schiff.Nadler show doing, and what was the action of Articles of Impeachment the house foisted on the Senate with a total disregard for any reasonable fair standard of process for the President. ??
May you - J666 - move to Venezuela and be treated with same lack of due process the House and its Schiff/Nadler show acted toward the POTUS.
Posting on A roll, and questionably sober.
Joined the anti-Fa Brownshirts for nazi Pelosi - has j666!!!!
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02-13-2020, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaxson66
You are the standard for hypocrisy.
You support the fat lying bastard and his cohorts who have given themselves a president who can’t be investigated, indicted or impeached.
Then you piss and moan like a pussy claiming Sanders will turn the Country into Venezuela. When the reality is the fat lying bastard is attempting to rule this country like a third world dictator and you obviously support that attack on democracy.
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Please note the logo on the tail vertical stabilizer.
J666 has joined Bernie's howler monkeys!!
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02-13-2020, 03:42 PM
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Many Americans may seize or condemn Neuborne’s analysis, which has more than 20 major points of comparison. The author repeatedly says his goal is not “equating” the men—as “it trivializes Hitler’s obscene crimes to compare them to Trump’s often pathetic foibles.”
Indeed, the book has a larger frame: whether federal checks and balances—Congress, the Supreme Court, the Electoral College—can contain the havoc that Trump thrives on and the Republican Party at large has embraced. But the Trump-Hitler compilation is a stunning warning, because, as many Holocaust survivors have said, few Germans or Europeans expected what unfolded in the years after Hitler amassed power.
Here’s how Neuborne introduces this section. Many recent presidents have been awful, “But then there was Donald Trump, the only president in recent American history to openly despise the twin ideals—individual dignity and fundamental equality—upon which the contemporary United States is built. When you confront the reality of a president like Trump, the state of both sets of brakes—internal [constitutional] and external [public resistance]—become hugely important because Donald Trump’s political train runs on the most potent and dangerous fuel of all: a steady diet of fear, greed, loathing, lies, and envy. Its a toxic mixture that has destroyed democracies before and can do so again.
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02-13-2020, 03:44 PM
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Please note the logo on the tail vertical stabilizer.
J666 has joined Bernie's howler monkeys!!
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"Bernie and the Howler Monkeys" ... sounds like a 4th rate bar band!
Free Beer!
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02-13-2020, 03:49 PM
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20 Common Themes, Rhetorical Tactics and Dangerous Policies
1. Neither was elected by a majority. Trump lost the popular vote by 2.9 million votes, receiving votes by 25.3 percent of all eligible American voters. “That’s just a little less than the percentage of the German electorate that turned to the Nazi Party in 1932–33,” Neuborne writes. “Unlike the low turnouts in the United States, turnout in Weimar Germany averaged just over 80 percent of eligible voters.” He continues, “Once installed as a minority chancellor in January 1933, Hitler set about demonizing his political opponents, and no one—not the vaunted, intellectually brilliant German judiciary; not the respected, well-trained German police; not the revered, aristocratic German military; not the widely admired, efficient German government bureaucracy; not the wealthy, immensely powerful leaders of German industry; and not the powerful center-right political leaders of the Reichstag—mounted a serious effort to stop him.”
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02-13-2020, 03:52 PM
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20 Common Themes, Rhetorical Tactics and Dangerous Policies
2. Both found direct communication channels to their base. By 1936’s Olympics, Nazi narratives dominated German cultural and political life. “How on earth did Hitler pull it off? What satanic magic did Trump find in Hitler’s speeches?” Neuborne asks. He addresses Hitler’s extreme rhetoric soon enough, but notes that Hitler found a direct communication pathway—the Nazi Party gave out radios with only one channel, tuned to Hitler’s voice, bypassing Germany’s news media. Trump has an online equivalent.
“Donald Trump’s tweets, often delivered between midnight and dawn, are the twenty-first century’s technological embodiment of Hitler’s free plastic radios,” Neuborne says. “Trump’s Twitter account, like Hitler’s radios, enables a charismatic leader to establish and maintain a personal, unfiltered line of communication with an adoring political base of about 30–40 percent of the population, many (but not all) of whom are only too willing, even anxious, to swallow Trump’s witches’ brew of falsehoods, half-truths, personal invective, threats, xenophobia, national security scares, religious bigotry, white racism, exploitation of economic insecurity, and a never ending-search for scapegoats.”
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02-13-2020, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaxson66
Many Americans may seize or condemn Neuborne’s analysis, which has more than 20 major points of comparison. The author repeatedly says his goal is not “equating” the men—as “it trivializes Hitler’s obscene crimes to compare them to Trump’s often pathetic foibles.”
Indeed, the book has a larger frame: whether federal checks and balances—Congress, the Supreme Court, the Electoral College—can contain the havoc that Trump thrives on and the Republican Party at large has embraced. But the Trump-Hitler compilation is a stunning warning, because, as many Holocaust survivors have said, few Germans or Europeans expected what unfolded in the years after Hitler amassed power.
Here’s how Neuborne introduces this section. Many recent presidents have been awful, “But then there was Donald Trump, the only president in recent American history to openly despise the twin ideals—individual dignity and fundamental equality—upon which the contemporary United States is built. When you confront the reality of a president like Trump, the state of both sets of brakes—internal [constitutional] and external [public resistance]—become hugely important because Donald Trump’s political train runs on the most potent and dangerous fuel of all: a steady diet of fear, greed, loathing, lies, and envy. Its a toxic mixture that has destroyed democracies before and can do so again.
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If you dig deep enough you can compare any American president before Trump to Hitler. Even as far back as the 60's they tried comparing JFK to Hitler. I would take Neuborne's Hitler analogy with a huge grain of salt.
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02-13-2020, 03:56 PM
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If you dig deep enough you can compare any American president before Trump to Hitler. Even as far back as the 60's they tried comparing JFK to Hitler. I would take Neuborne's Hitler analogy with a huge grain of salt.
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and a shot of Tequila
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02-13-2020, 04:04 PM
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If you dig deep enough you can compare any American president before Trump to Hitler. Even as far back as the 60's they tried comparing JFK to Hitler. I would take Neuborne's Hitler analogy with a huge grain of salt.
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Neuborne doesn’t make this comparison lightly. His 55-year career began by challenging the constitutionality of the Vietnam War in the 1960s. He became the ACLU’s national legal director in the 1980s under Ronald Reagan. He was founding legal director of the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University Law School in the 1990s. He has been part of more than 200 Supreme Court cases and Holocaust reparation litigation.
I’m surprised you can swallow a grain of salt past the lies you consume.
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02-13-2020, 04:41 PM
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Most politicians, left and right, have similar play books to achieving their goals. So the comparison to Hitler is very disingenuous and foolish. It demonstrates the weakness of their argument that the left has to dust off that old boogie man Hitler. Unlike so many tyrants, Hitler followed the rules and achieved power legitimately just like Trump, Obama, Bill, and Reagan. It's what each of them did with that power that differentiates one from another. Were they honest with their followers what their ultimate goals were? In the cases of Trump, Bill, and Reagan...yes. Obama and Hitler misled their followers. Did the respect the system that got them there when they took office? Trump and Reagan both colored inside the lines constitutionally though the left vehemently disagreed with their goals. Bill, Obama, and Hitler stepped over the lines repeatedly by using government apparatus to investigate, intimidate, and to tear down the legitimacy of their political rivals. Hitler removed the system entirely. Obama expressed the idea on many occasions that he wished he could do the same; he openly wished that we had a more Chinese form of government, he called our constitution a list of suggestions that got in the way of making real change, and his subordinates were a number of political radicals with even worse views on individual freedoms.
The closest president in practice to Hitler was Obama but our constitution, that thing Obama didn't like, effectively stopped him eventually.
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02-13-2020, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaxson66
Neuborne doesn’t make this comparison lightly. His 55-year career began by challenging the constitutionality of the Vietnam War in the 1960s. He became the ACLU’s national legal director in the 1980s under Ronald Reagan. He was founding legal director of the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University Law School in the 1990s. He has been part of more than 200 Supreme Court cases and Holocaust reparation litigation.
I’m surprised you can swallow a grain of salt past the lies you consume.
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see below .. your "concerns" have been addressed and your "rhetoric" debunked.
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Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn
Most politicians, left and right, have similar play books to achieving their goals. So the comparison to Hitler is very disingenuous and foolish. It demonstrates the weakness of their argument that the left has to dust off that old boogie man Hitler. Unlike so many tyrants, Hitler followed the rules and achieved power legitimately just like Trump, Obama, Bill, and Reagan. It's what each of them did with that power that differentiates one from another. Were they honest with their followers what their ultimate goals were? In the cases of Trump, Bill, and Reagan...yes. Obama and Hitler misled their followers. Did the respect the system that got them there when they took office? Trump and Reagan both colored inside the lines constitutionally though the left vehemently disagreed with their goals. Bill, Obama, and Hitler stepped over the lines repeatedly by using government apparatus to investigate, intimidate, and to tear down the legitimacy of their political rivals. Hitler removed the system entirely. Obama expressed the idea on many occasions that he wished he could do the same; he openly wished that we had a more Chinese form of government, he called our constitution a list of suggestions that got in the way of making real change, and his subordinates were a number of political radicals with even worse views on individual freedoms.
The closest president in practice to Hitler was Obama but our constitution, that thing Obama didn't like, effectively stopped him eventually.
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+1
Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report
https://www.yahoo.com/news/blogs/tic...134204299.html
If Donald Trump Targets Journalists, Thank Obama
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/30/o...ank-obama.html
Editorial: Before Trump, Obama was an ‘enemy of press freedom’
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...910-story.html
Levin: Hysterical media has forgotten Obama’s actual abuses of the press
https://www.conservativereview.com/n...-of-the-press/
Obama’s legacy will be one of secrecy and hostility toward the press
https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...-and-hostility
any other questions you might have, valued poster?
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02-13-2020, 05:09 PM
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Neuborne doesn’t make this comparison lightly. His 55-year career began by challenging the constitutionality of the Vietnam War in the 1960s. He became the ACLU’s national legal director in the 1980s under Ronald Reagan. He was founding legal director of the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University Law School in the 1990s. He has been part of more than 200 Supreme Court cases and Holocaust reparation litigation.
I’m surprised you can swallow a grain of salt past the lies you consume.
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That's all fine and dandy. He's comparing Trump to a guy who was responsible for a wide range of human atrocities. Hitler's ultimate aim was to produce a pure culture of Germans by eliminating any deviation from his vision, that's one reason why he targeted the Jews. Hitler was also a master at propaganda, He indoctrinated School Children and young teens to follow his vision of Germany as the sole power of Europe. I don't see any comparison between Trump and Hitler. You want to see it and any jerkoff like Neuborne can convince you of anything that would be derogatory of Trump. I see Bernie Sanders more like Hitler than anyone.
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02-13-2020, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn
Most politicians, left and right, have similar play books to achieving their goals. So the comparison to Hitler is very disingenuous and foolish. It demonstrates the weakness of their argument that the left has to dust off that old boogie man Hitler. Unlike so many tyrants, Hitler followed the rules and achieved power legitimately just like Trump, Obama, Bill, and Reagan. It's what each of them did with that power that differentiates one from another. Were they honest with their followers what their ultimate goals were? In the cases of Trump, Bill, and Reagan...yes. Obama and Hitler misled their followers. Did the respect the system that got them there when they took office? Trump and Reagan both colored inside the lines constitutionally though the left vehemently disagreed with their goals. Bill, Obama, and Hitler stepped over the lines repeatedly by using government apparatus to investigate, intimidate, and to tear down the legitimacy of their political rivals. Hitler removed the system entirely. Obama expressed the idea on many occasions that he wished he could do the same; he openly wished that we had a more Chinese form of government, he called our constitution a list of suggestions that got in the way of making real change, and his subordinates were a number of political radicals with even worse views on individual freedoms.
The closest president in practice to Hitler was Obama but our constitution, that thing Obama didn't like, effectively stopped him eventually.
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Who are you plagiarizing?
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02-13-2020, 05:27 PM
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Who are you plagiarizing?
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what makes you think he's plagiarizing anyone? can yous prove it?
yeah .. didn't think so. just more hollow rhetoric of the far left.
since you idolize socialism how 'bout the atrocities of your paragons of totalitarian socialism?
you know ... these guys .. who make Hitler look like a choir boy?
Great Purge
https://www.history.com/topics/russia/great-purge
Newly Released Documents Detail Traumas Of China's Cultural Revolution
https://www.npr.org/2016/05/05/47687...ral-revolution
you "idolize" two of the most brutal socialist extremists ever. and yet you think socialism is this benevolent utopia for the "people". right!!!
you've been lied to friend .. and you fell for it hook, line and sinker.
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02-13-2020, 05:37 PM
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20 Common Themes, Rhetorical Tactics and Dangerous Policies
3. Both blame others and divide on racial lines. As Neuborne notes, “Hitler used his single-frequency radios to wax hysterical to his adoring base about his pathological racial and religious fantasies glorifying Aryans and demonizing Jews, blaming Jews (among other racial and religious scapegoats) for German society’s ills.” That is comparable to “Trump’s tweets and public statements, whether dealing with black-led demonstrations against police violence, white-led racist mob violence, threats posed by undocumented aliens, immigration policy generally, protests by black and white professional athletes, college admission policies, hate speech, even response to hurricane damage in Puerto Rico,” he says. Again and again, Trump uses “racially tinged messages calculated to divide whites from people of color.”
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