The dark side.

[Mr.Chan]

Originally Posted by Ginger Doll

Yes, do tell! I've been very interested in sub/dom for as long as I can remember.

That's D/s, worm!!! Sorry just practicing.

[Guest032514-1]

lmao....okay start with what?

here's a few things, I spent 8 years as a real life sub, trained under a Grand Master, award winning alpha sub (to aa award winning Master so yeah, duh)

ProDomme for 15+ years.

Teacher, mentor, student & advocate. Rarely get to sub anymore (extremely strong personality with Irish/German stubborn takes an exceptionally strong individual to top me). Don't sub in the escort world.

In betwixt all of that is enough story to make Le Mis look like light reading, so you're gonna have to be a bit more specific.

BTW, AR has a very healthy kink scene.

[Mr.Chan]

Originally Posted by babee

lmao....okay start with what?

here's a few things, I spent 8 years as a real life sub, trained under a Grand Master, award winning alpha sub (to aa award winning Master so yeah, duh)

ProDomme for 15+ years.

Teacher, mentor, student & advocate. Rarely get to sub anymore (extremely strong personality with Irish/German stubborn takes an exceptionally strong individual to top me). Don't sub in the escort world.

In betwixt all of that is enough story to make Le Mis look like light reading, so you're gonna have to be a bit more specific.

BTW, AR has a very healthy kink scene.

Well lets say I booked a session and wanted you to be my sub. Aside from tinkering with my periscope what might that involve?

[Ginger Doll]

Originally Posted by Mr.Chan

That's D/s, worm!!! Sorry just practicing.

[Ginger Doll]

Originally Posted by Mr.Chan

Well lets say I booked a session and wanted you to be my sub. Aside from tinkering with my periscope what might that involve?

She said, "don't sub in the escort world."

Which means, YOU'RE the one that will be getting the spankings.

[Mr.Chan]

Originally Posted by Ginger Doll

She said, "don't sub in the escort world."

Which means, YOU'RE the one that will be getting the spankings.

I simply must start reading the fine print. Okay Babee so after we get me fitted for my collar what is the leash I might expect?

[tuckahoe]

SnL is the only one who ever tied me to the bed. I really don't need to be tied up for a woman to get what she wants from me. What do you do if a fire breaks out and your partner gets scared and runs out without untying you. Or what if you get a leg cramp. I really prefer the tenderness side of things. But I don't at all mind a little aggressiveness in a woman. Spanking, if done playfully, would not seem like dark side to me. Blindfolded would not be bad either if activities were gentle; like letting your partner feel different sensations, such as a feather against the skin. There is enough pain in life; pain is not what I pay money for. I feel no desire to whip a woman or choke her.
A girl once told me she set up a date with a guy and he wanted her to burn his skin with a lit cigarette. She couldn't say bye fast enough!

[Guest032514-1]

Originally Posted by Mr.Chan

..after we get me fitted for my collar

A collar - the accepting and wearing of and the asking and giving of - is a serious commitment, roughly equal to a real life engagement.

Originally Posted by Mr.Chan

what is the leash I might expect?

Leash? Pavlovian fetishes?

Collars & Leashes

Practical
In general any type collar & leash will work; although padded & worked leather collars are preferred. Unpadded collars tend to abrade the flesh which 1)may not be acceptable (for a variety of reasons) 2) will distract from training. Training collars are generally heavier, thicker, more padded, softer and 2+ inches wide with at least 4 point attachments and sliders.

Leashes tend to be more ornate and thin as they are 98% mental. The 2% useful...well ever been slapped with a length of thin pliant leather? It welts.
Of that 2% there are several variations each with specific 'intentions'. Flat broad leather is a more pulling (wrap @ hand) and "heel' training type (easier to stand on flat broad than other type). Thin round leather - "slapper", chain for restrictive scenarios/show and of course each type above can also come with embellished (barbs, knots, metal etc to add more flavor & depth).

Aesthetic
From a nylon dog collar (abrades) to a thousands of dollars custom leather full neck & shoulder cape showpiece. Whoever wears the collar is a Master's canvas so it's extremely individual.

Application
Collars are symbolic in the lifestyle. Generally a prelude to being or tatted or branded with a Master's mark.
Collars can be used instead of hair. Generally if a collar is worn, a female sub's hair is tightly restrained (collar is to be seen & used instead of the hair). Collar is used in place of pushing or pulling in regards to placement (mostly with those who dont do hair pullin face slappin).
Collars are never meant to choke (bad play).
Collars and leash are primary tools of "puppy play" and modified horse collars (high neck, over the head, across the cheek and jaw with bit attachments and rein loops instead of "leash" and thats a whole other scene.)
Collars are most prevalent in two areas: bondage and show. D ring, O ring and slider attachments enable "affixment" of wearer by displacing wearers weight in a roping/rigging scene.
Show/dress/party rings in the collar lead to chains or rope or whatever generally attached to ornate nipple, clit, vagina, penile, testicular, anal attachments either pulling or passing through.

Collars are used as symbols, tools, or accessory. Extremely effective for subs who don;t do as well with vocal commands.

[Guest032514-1]

Originally Posted by tuckahoe

SnL is the only one who ever tied me to the bed. I really don't need to be tied up for a woman to get what she wants from me. What do you do if a fire breaks out and your partner gets scared and runs out without untying you. Or what if you get a leg cramp. I really prefer the tenderness side of things. But I don't at all mind a little aggressiveness in a woman. Spanking, if done playfully, would not seem like dark side to me. Blindfolded would not be bad either if activities were gentle; like letting your partner feel different sensations, such as a feather against the skin. There is enough pain in life; pain is not what I pay money for. I feel no desire to whip a woman or choke her.
A girl once told me she set up a date with a guy and he wanted her to burn his skin with a lit cigarette. She couldn't say bye fast enough!

Shouldn't need anything to restrain a person. My favorite saying in the whole wide world (ask Giz); "Just lay there and take it like a man." I generally don't need anything more than that and a smile.

[tuckahoe]

Originally Posted by babee

"Just lay there and take it like a man." I generally don't need anything more than that and a smile.

Babee!, I love that quote, and I am smiling! Real big! (the smile, that is)

[jim1995]

Never really been interested in the sub/Dom stuff. Tied up, handcuffs and blindfolds, sure I've done that. Am I missing something? Maybe so. Hmmm

My hobby bucket list really only contains a few things that I wouldn't classify as the dark side though. Want to know what they are? Pm me. Maybe one of you ladies can help me fulfill them.

[Guest040313-1]

Ok ya’ll,
This is a fun thread and I’ve got to reveal my one and only story pertaining to the subject and I’m LMAO.
I was with a very beautiful young lady (civi) and things had become very heated. We had just changed positions to doggie and I was going to town giving it everything I had in me. Sweat was pouring … the sheets were soaked … and very vivid language was being exchanged between us.
In K9, she suddenly twisted and turned her head (Exorcist Style) … Looked at me with wild eyes and in a deep gravelly voice and teeth clenched said ….. SPANK MY F**KIN ASS!
I’m old school and not really being familiar, I drew back and whacked the freekin crap out of her ass. (I’m literally laughing as I type). She climbed the headboard like a rocket sled and turned and looked at me like I was insane, but it didn’t take long before the festivities started again (a little more tame) and we completed our mission.
As we lay there smoking a cigarette, she politely explained that she wasn’t expecting the whack that I had given her ….. ROFLMAO.
We saw each other many times after that, but she never asked me to spank her ass again LOL
Damn I miss her!

[Ginger Doll]

Moral of that story is...be careful what you ask for. You just might get it.

[Lazrback]

Originally Posted by tuckahoe

What do you do if a fire breaks out and your partner gets scared and runs out without untying you.

"Geralds Game" a book by Stephen King wherein a couple are experimenting with some bondage and the man dies of a heart attack and leaves the woman handcuffed to the bed.. a very interesting read.

[Guest040313-1]

I think it's just in the way you ask ... LOL