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04-04-2013, 12:11 AM
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On Extended Hiatus!!
Join Date: Sep 24, 2010
Location: Central Arkansas
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Ha! Sounds like Slixa!
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It could be but I don't know. I can't seem to find that pm that told exactly what they had planned and how it was going to work,
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04-04-2013, 12:19 AM
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User ID: 121508
Join Date: Feb 11, 2012
Location: biloxi
Posts: 762
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Ehh, p411 lost it's credibility with me a while ago. Twice now I've gone by a client having 30+ oks just to be HIGHLY disappointed with their behavior. When I tried to report one jerk to them for very aggressive, rude, and other unacceptable behavior, they simply said sorry and they could send him a message telling him I reported him.. Like thats going to help anyone.. There is no "thumbs down" option, and I've found that the VAST majority of women will simply click the button to avoid the guy causing her problems.
On the more hilarious "who is supposed to pay for the ladies advertisment" comment, it's silly to think we don't have costs for advertising. Our websites, mine at least charge a hosting fee, plus, you have to pay for templates, and all the extras. P411 is free to post an add, but banners, top 10, featured, and visiting adds all have fees, not to mention dangerzone & nationalblacklist (what keep us safe) charge. Euros, Big Doggie, BackPage, and just about anywhere else has a charge. You have a *yearly* $130 fee to have ease of access to all the discreet, verified pussy you can pay for, but we have charges and fees that easily equal that per month. We pay for our advertising, thats who.
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04-04-2013, 12:34 AM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Oct 7, 2010
Location: United States of California
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Actually, I read some of your reviews. Some are rather cryptic in the fee portion, but it seems you are not afraid to spend some serious cash on a good provider. Having said that, I'm surprised that you think such a positive service is not deserving of increasing their fees to continue with the service they provide, keeping in mind that they have a staff of people working there, not just one or 2 people in a tiny cubicle.
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Nicolet, believe me, I would have absolutely no problem with an increase of the price, but an increase of 55.4% is ridiculous.
And P411 should feel it by members leaving.
Again, "the other website" is free with their White List service.
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04-04-2013, 12:41 AM
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Upgraded Female Account
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Join Date: Jan 3, 2010
Location: Private Incall ~ Westchase/Memorial/Energy Corridor
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P411 is a great service, but there price increase is gross, greed or grant theft whatever you want to call it.
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This business is booming and I have to assume that Gina will be needing to hire additional staff and expanding her database/software/server to meet and keep up with demand. I doubt the increase will be going directly into her own personal bank account.
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04-04-2013, 12:52 AM
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Location: United States of California
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Originally Posted by Brooke Wild
This business is booming and I have to assume that Gina will be needing to hire additional staff and expanding her database/software/server to meet and keep up with demand. I doubt the increase will be going directly into her own personal bank account.
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Let me remind you, if I open a business, I have to pay for the advertising costs. The future clients don't pay for that, it's included in the price.
Why is that so difficult to understand?
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04-04-2013, 01:02 AM
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Join Date: Oct 7, 2010
Location: United States of California
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Originally Posted by Brooke Wild
This business is booming and I have to assume that Gina will be needing to hire additional staff and expanding her database/software/server to meet and keep up with demand. I doubt the increase will be going directly into her own personal bank account.
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And another thing, if this business is booming then the additional clients should make up for the price, not the existing members.
And I really don't see why I have to pay more for additional girls in New York while I live in San Diego
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04-04-2013, 01:34 AM
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Join Date: Apr 14, 2010
Location: NOLA/BR/MS coast :)
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While I can see your point, to a point........ I did some quick research on just a few of the things some ladies pay for as far as advertising.
P411 - 140 per month for top 10 and feature, 200 with an animated gif too.
Eros - Base ad, 85 per month. VIP featured entertainer - 500 a WEEK.
Some ladies have ads on BP, which in major cities has had a much bigger increase in cost than P411, percentage wise. (I've never been good with percentages, but I DO know how much it hurts to pay for advertising!) I have seen in some cities, BP asks for over 20 for a single post. And that was almost 2 years ago, I shudder to think what it costs NOW.
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04-04-2013, 01:55 AM
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Join Date: Oct 7, 2010
Location: United States of California
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Originally Posted by Nicolet
While I can see your point, to a point........ I did some quick research on just a few of the things some ladies pay for as far as advertising.
P411 - 140 per month for top 10 and feature, 200 with an animated gif too.
Eros - Base ad, 85 per month. VIP featured entertainer - 500 a WEEK.
Some ladies have ads on BP, which in major cities has had a much bigger increase in cost than P411, percentage wise. (I've never been good with percentages, but I DO know how much it hurts to pay for advertising!) I have seen in some cities, BP asks for over 20 for a single post. And that was almost 2 years ago, I shudder to think what it costs NOW.
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My dear Nicolet,
The cost of advertising is just like any business has, it's called:
Costs of doing business.
It's just like any other business, like Apple, Microsoft, your local grocery store, the place where you get gas and do oil changes, and every other business you deal with.
If you can't cover the advertisement costs, which is the life blood of businesses, then you should not be in business.
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04-04-2013, 02:02 AM
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Location: NOLA/BR/MS coast :)
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Exactly, and as the cost of doing business goes up, it is passed onto the consumer. And you have consumed some tasty ladies! Eat your fill!
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04-04-2013, 04:12 AM
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Join Date: Oct 7, 2010
Location: United States of California
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Exactly, and as the cost of doing business goes up, it is passed onto the consumer. And you have consumed some tasty ladies! Eat your fill!
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Really I have no problem paying for the ladies.
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04-04-2013, 05:22 AM
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Join Date: Nov 15, 2012
Location: House
Posts: 1,295
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I will stay with P4 because I have had no problems and the providers have told me they give priority to P4 members and or good clients.
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04-04-2013, 12:27 PM
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Join Date: Feb 7, 2012
Location: Houston
Posts: 2,548
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We'll also be staying with P411 as we've had nothing but good experiences with the site (especially the search function there!).
In the grand scheme of things, an extra $46 isn't much to pay (to us) for all the convenience they offer.
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04-04-2013, 12:59 PM
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Registered Member
Join Date: Jan 13, 2010
Location: Humble, TX
Posts: 1,914
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0.126027397260274 per day extra
0.884615384615385 per week extra
3.833333333333333 per month extra
46 per year extra....just doesn't break the bank for me.....ijs
It keeps us all safer in the long run as well.....ijs
I renewed two days before the price increase went into effect. I'm sure a lot of guys did the same. Take it up with Gina, I'm sure she can explain her reasons for an increase.
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04-04-2013, 01:52 PM
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Lifetime Premium Access
Join Date: Dec 24, 2011
Location: Addison
Posts: 330
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Agreed there should be a way to identify or eliminate problem clients but I followed up on the P411 provider complaint feature for a NCNS and was told to "find another provider" so it goes both ways.
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04-04-2013, 05:46 PM
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Account Disabled
Join Date: Mar 28, 2009
Location: Houston
Posts: 10,105
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I am a lifetime member as well. If it was $300 a year I would still buy it for the peace of mind it gives me.
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