GOP Not A Normal Party

[CuteOldGuy]

I do that everyday, Assup. You need to read.

[Yssup Rider]

No you don't. You voice your opinion, ad nauseum. Rarely supported by fact. Mostly "corroborated" by the opinions of others.

You sound like you were vaccinated with a Victrola needle. ll day and all night.

Merry Christmas! It may be your last!

[CuteOldGuy]

Read, Assup. Lots of facts support my opinions. You just don't like dealing with facts. Which is why you can only refute my posts with stupid namecalling and "homo" epithets.

[Yssup Rider]

You're lying again, Unaliar. I hardly ever call you a homo.

and you rarely deal in fact or truth.

Hunker down, bunker clown!

[Fast Gunn]

Okay, we'll take a little side road here to quell the noise.

I can respond to the challenges made for my support for the President.

At first, I did not believe that Barack Obama had any chance at the office. I mean who was this skinny guy with the unpronounceable name?

I decided to give him a chance and read all of his books and considered his positions. He convinced me that he's the best man for the job.

. . . Look at all he has done with the terribly lousy hand that was dealt to him by Bush the idiot.

Do you guys not see how much improved the situation in this country is now because of his policies in spite of so much opposition motivated solely to hurt him regardless of the damage done to this country?

[CuteOldGuy]

Merry Christmas, FastGoon! I think Obama is making things worse, as you can probably tell. But have a Happy Holiday and Great New Year anyway. Since Obama is the President, I hope you are right. But I doubt it.

[Guest040616]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Please prove that he cares only for himself and his entourage and his rulers. Or STFU.

Why should a proven compulsive liar have to prove anything?

[Sidewinder]

Originally Posted by Fast Gunn

So are we really headed over the fiscal cliff?

Why are we headed that draconian direction?

. . .Basically, it's because the GOP is no longer a normal party.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...y.html?hpid=z2

The writer's definition of "normal party" is "one that compromises with the other side".

What he fails to acknowledge is the principle that one does not compromise with pure evil.

There are quite a few issues on which the Republicans *WILL* *NOT* *EVER* *COMPROMISE*, because they've seen what happened in the past. Consider the 1990 "budget summit", in which the Democratic Congress promised, cross my heart, to enact spending cuts if only George Bush would sign the biggest tax increase in history at the time. History demonstrates quite clearly that they lied.

Consider the more recent compromise on the debt ceiling increase, in which the Democrats promised, through the supercomittee, cross my heart, to enact spending cuts if only the Republicans would sign the credit card voucher. Again, they lied.

Unlike Charlie Brown, the Republicans know what Lucy is going to do with that football, and they are not playing that game again.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Sidewinder

Unlike Charlie Brown, the Republicans know what Lucy is going to do with that football, and they are not playing that game again.

Oh yes they will, going over the cliff gives them cover.

Everybody's taxes go up after Jan 1 and then they ( Tea Party Goobers) can vote to lower taxes on those making less than 250k.

Same outcome.

Obama is not going to try and lower Medicare payments like he did last time and have you Tea nuts scream , "Death Panels!". This time he is going to let you define exactly what cuts you want and let the public hold you accountable for those cuts.

[Chica Chaser]

Thats exactly right WTF. But its not just the Repubs. If Congress lets it go over the cliff then no politician has to vote to raise taxes, only vote to lower them. And they never have to defend a voting record of raising taxes.

Its really quite disgusting that every move, by EVERY politician, is politically motivated, rather than for the good of the country and the people that put and keep them there.

[Fast Gunn]

Disgusting is the precise word to describe congress.

. . . We need to bitch slap the lot of them into submission and get some honest work done!

Originally Posted by Chica Chaser

Thats exactly right WTF. But its not just the Repubs. If Congress lets it go over the cliff then no politician has to vote to raise taxes, only vote to lower them. And they never have to defend a voting record of raising taxes.

Its really quite disgusting that every move, by EVERY politician, is politically motivated, rather than for the good of the country and the people that put and keep them there.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by Chica Chaser

Thats exactly right WTF. But its not just the Repubs. If Congress lets it go over the cliff then no politician has to vote to raise taxes, only vote to lower them. And they never have to defend a voting record of raising taxes.

Its really quite disgusting that every move, by EVERY politician, is politically motivated, rather than for the good of the country and the people that put and keep them there.

Actually, it's MOSTLY the Repubs. They painted themselves into a corner with their obstructionist campaign against POTUS and, while NOT budging on a single issue, put us in this situation.

Their failed leadership has been unable to corral the rising swill of Tea Puke in their caucus and lost control of Plan B, which, while it was a horseshit alternative, was still an alternative? Not that the Democrats haven't stepped back and let the booger eaters pick their noses. Because they have in the past year. Of course, who could ignore the TRENDS, eh?

No, I'm afraid this is something the GOP has to own. They could have worked to avoid this. They could have done something to avoid the rancor on health care. They could have done something to help build a budget that works for the future.

They chose to make Obama a one-term president.

To quote the biggest hypocrite on the board ... "They've got nothin."

(THAT SAID, I REALLY LIKE THE WAY YOU HAVE GIVEN UP ON EVERYBODY IN OFFICE. I'M GLAD YOU'RE NOT IN CHARGE ... ooops!)

[Chica Chaser]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Actually, it's MOSTLY the Repubs. They painted themselves into a corner with their obstructionist campaign against POTUS and, while NOT budging on a single issue, put us in this situation.

Their failed leadership has been unable to corral the rising swill of Tea Puke in their caucus and lost control of Plan B, which, while it was a horseshit alternative, was still an alternative? Not that the Democrats haven't stepped back and let the booger eaters pick their noses. Because they have in the past year. Of course, who could ignore the TRENDS, eh?

No, I'm afraid this is something the GOP has to own. They could have worked to avoid this. They could have done something to avoid the rancor on health care. They could have done something to help build a budget that works for the future.

They chose to make Obama a one-term president.

To quote the biggest hypocrite on the board ... "They've got nothin."

(THAT SAID, I REALLY LIKE THE WAY YOU HAVE GIVEN UP ON EVERYBODY IN OFFICE. I'M GLAD YOU'RE NOT IN CHARGE ... ooops!)

Actually its both parties equally. Its fun and all to blame the guys you don't like, but the fact remains that the Dems aren't budging/negotiating on the $250K and above earnings, The Repubs at least threw a $1M number out, somewhere to start. Dems simply will not commit to cutting spending, this "we'll do that later" is out and out bullshit. Thats not negotiating and you know that as well as I do.

So no, this is not something the Repubs have to own. Both sides are welcome to own it equally. They both could have and should have been working all year to avoid this, but didn't. It was more important for everyone to wait to see how all the elections came out before lifting a finger. Ya know, the right thing for the country as a whole instead of their own political careers. And you wonder why I have given up on all of them? Really?

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by Sidewinder

The writer's definition of "normal party" is "one that compromises with the other side".

What he fails to acknowledge is the principle that one does not compromise with pure evil.

There are quite a few issues on which the Republicans *WILL* *NOT* *EVER* *COMPROMISE*, because they've seen what happened in the past. Consider the 1990 "budget summit", in which the Democratic Congress promised, cross my heart, to enact spending cuts if only George Bush would sign the biggest tax increase in history at the time. History demonstrates quite clearly that they lied.

Consider the more recent compromise on the debt ceiling increase, in which the Democrats promised, through the supercomittee, cross my heart, to enact spending cuts if only the Republicans would sign the credit card voucher. Again, they lied.

Unlike Charlie Brown, the Republicans know what Lucy is going to do with that football, and they are not playing that game again.

The Republicans fundamental mistake has been that they've allowed the Constitution to become null and void because of constantly compromising with liberal Democrats.

Someone asked Nancy Pelosi, where in the Constitution, the federal government was given the authority to implement Obamacare. She responded by asking if they were serious and laughed at them.

We are bankrupt because of entitlement programs created by Democrats; all of them are unconstitutional. If the Republicans had stopped FDR's New Deal and LBJ's Great Society, we wouldn't have 222,000,000,000,000 in unfunded liabilites. America would be alive and well instead of dying.

[Yssup Rider]

I don't see much compromising at all. With conservative or liberal Democrats. Or Republicans!

Assholes like you and your pals are killing America.

And ACTUALLY, CC, there's nothing equal about it. The majority party refuses to compromise. And then they rebel against their own leadership. MWTF are you saying? Or am I supposed to fold my tent because you've got the hammer?

Today's Tea Party Republicans are hell bent on destroying America ad assholes like you want to distribute the weight.

Sorry.

You write it, YOU OWN IT!