Fake Love

[Bruce Fassbender]

Originally Posted by cabletex7

What's stopping you?

Nothing....nothing at all

[Bruce Fassbender]

Originally Posted by L.A.

What made you have your "epiphany" during your session? I do know what you mean because we are human and we do develop feelings (whatever they may be) for other people.
One time I was with my ATF and she said something that indicated we didn't have time for a 5 minute off the clock conversation about something. And yes it was hurtful and eye opening especially since I had done her a few small favors. But we are who we are, and we feel what we feel. And to be honest that's one reason in the hobby to maybe not see a regular provider (although there are benefits too).

Thank you man. Even though you may not have romantic feelings towards the escort it's still disappointing to hear she doesn't even care enough about you to take her time. Well, that's hobbying for you and I'll never do it again. Sex without intimacy is one thing, but with a women who couldn't careless if it were you or any other Joe that's something entirely different.

[Bruce Fassbender]

Originally Posted by PetrusMaximus

I don't need IOP.

I just need her to have space for my dick to get in so I can fuck it super hard and nut like I've never nut before.

Easy-peasy, nothing fancy, just simple bang-n-go.

No drama, no llama.

I originally wanted to do that, but this girl looked me in my eye and seemingly wanted to get to know me and asked me all kinds of personal questions. It's just gut wrenching that that's all apart of her game and she does that with everybody. Welp...

[John Rockhead]

About a year ago I was going to the SC's several times a week. One night had a long, fun, interesting time with one of the girls. The next day I saw her in the real world and she looked right in my face and shook her head "NO" as in don't talk to me. That was a fresh reminder that it's all make believe.

[AverageWhiteGuy]

Don't know what to tell you Bruce ... obviously you are smart enough to know this isn't the place to look for love. I understand its great if hot sex appears to turn into real feelings, but that is their job. IOP man.

But even in civilian relationships you can end up feeling used and mislead.

You really need to rethink why you are here, We all have our reasons, make sure you know yours and that they line up with what this hobby is.

Not all providers are heartless money grabbers, so if you can suspend disbelief and enjoy it great, if not get out. No shame in that, this isn't for everyone. But if you stay, and learn to not go to far, you can have some meaningful and great relationships. Not true love, but genuine affection within the unspoken bounds of the financial transaction. However, even after 20+ years of this I still get lost sometime in the fantasy, but I don't fall to far down the rabbit hole anymore.

You may want to try the sugar daddy route, again lots of hustlers to weed thru, but the concept is more about build a relationship. You generally spend hours with them, so there has to be more of a connection for it to work. I have had 2 great sugar baby relationships, go read some of the stickies on the sugar daddy forum here, maybe that is a better fit, if you are looking for a more meaningful relationship, but still don't expect real love, save that for eharmony

Best of luck.

[Guest102517]

Johnny Lee said it best, "lookin' for love in all the wrong places". Sugar babies, dancers, and escorts are by definition, for hire. Doesn't mean you can't visit with them, doesn't mean you can't get to know them, doesn't mean you can't do nice things for them, but it does mean you aren't dating them.

Pull it together and be grateful she got naked, sucked your dick, and fucked you all within 60 minutes of meeting you. I guarantee you have spent more than an hour and $250 on a girl much older and considerably less attractive who was just as eager to get away from you as she was, but she didn't get naked, didn't suck your dick, and didn't fuck you. Good rule of thumb, if she keeps the money, she's working.

Don't be mad at her for doing a good job! This is your problem, not hers. I bet her ad very clearly listed rates and services. I understand her situation. I've got clients (and acquaintances) who take me to lunch, dinner, or drinks trying to get around my hourly rate too. And you know what? I resent them for it. That's my job. It's how I earn a living.

[Caravano]

I have met my providers family, gone with her to church, but we don't make love , it's just sex .. business is business .

[Lena Duvall]

Christ! You really should go have a time with a piece of cardboard then. Like, I get it. That reference was a hyperbole. But it says a whole lot about one's mind and thought process when a comparison is drawn between a human woman and a piece of dead wood particles.

Occurrences where guests underbook and grant themselves additional time aren't rare. So does this mean a provider is a horrid, detached barely-better-than-a-piece-of-paper being if she opts to end the date when it was supposed to end?

Now if she delivered bad service and was rushing during a point where it was nowhere near the end of the date that's one thing. But her engaging in physical and emotional intimacy in exchange for compensation is not a "game." And so what if she does that with "everybody!" That's kind of understood when you meet a professional escort. If the OP wants an exclusive arrangement, he'd have to be willing to shell out much more than the rate for an hour or two worth of time.

[L.A.]

Originally Posted by Bruce Fassbender

I had that epiphany during a session and my dick went limp and I just fucking left.

Originally Posted by Lena Duvall

How many extra minutes were you trying to linger around for? Occurrences where guests underbook and grant themselves an additional 30 or 60 plus minutes aren't rare.

If the OP felt favors were owed to him, the onus was on him to check in with her and be transparent to see if she had the space on that day to extend herself beyond their agreed upon date length and not assume she was obligated to do so.

I don't believe it was ever confirmed why he had his epiphany and that it was time related. Maybe he caught her watching TV, staring at the clock or her watch, maybe she was checking her phone, or maybe she took a short nap and woke up asking if he was done yet.
Unless I missed it I think you're making assumptions that he tried to extend the time (but that could have been the issue too).

[Souper]

This is all FAKE NEWS...

[jack_black81]

Originally Posted by Caravano

I have met my providers family, gone with her to church, but we don't make love , it's just sex .. business is business .

Must be something in the air right now, bc this topic/revelation seems to be happening pretty often. Lol

This is the hard part to comprehend for many guys.

I've been in a similar spot, met her family, she confides in me about certain things.

It's one thing for it to be just business. But when we talk constantly, know her fam, kid, real name, address etc., it's hard to accept that I am possibly nothing more than an $ sign to her. And I say possibly, bc u never REALLY know with these ladies. But if I disappeared off the face of the earth, would she gaf?

They still take ur money, but I don't really blame them for that if I'm offering.

But I guess it's pretty telling since the ladies on here avoid this discussion, lol.

[BLM69]

Originally Posted by Bruce Fassbender

I originally wanted to do that, but this girl looked me in my eye and seemingly wanted to get to know me and asked me all kinds of personal questions. It's just gut wrenching that that's all apart of her game and she does that with everybody. Welp...

She only does that with you Man, I say go all in and follow your heart LOL

[jack_black81]

Originally Posted by Bruce Fassbender

I originally wanted to do that, but this girl looked me in my eye and seemingly wanted to get to know me and asked me all kinds of personal questions. It's just gut wrenching that that's all apart of her game and she does that with everybody. Welp...

Personal questions don't lure me, as I'm pretty adept at reading bs, but other things do

Little lesson here is, we have to check our egos at the door.

Some of us arent old, are in good shape, workout etc which is different from many clients providers see. And while in ur mind, you figure she's attracted to you based on that....just figure she's seen ppl better looking than you, better shape, funnier, more money, maybe even famous/athlete...the list goes on and on. EVERYTHING you can hang your hat on about urself, by the time these women have been with high-hundreds(some maybe a thousand) of different men, they've seen it ALL. They've practiced it all in terms of how to look you right in the eye and be fake/lie/work you, etc.


To avoid attachment, some guys will go into a session and avoid speaking much altogether, just do their thing and leave.... but then the girls complain that that's "weird/they don't like that/makes them feel cheap" . Haha...just like in real life, theres no pleasing these women, either.

[PetrusMaximus]

Reminder to you about intimacy from providers.

[OneStarLuck07]

As crazy as it sounds, so glad I'm attached. Helps keep me grounded and reminds me this is all fantasy.

If I were single, this would be dangerous. I think i would have a hard time distinguishing between reality and fantasy. Probably would get attached to at least one of them and they would destroy me.