Thank you border czar

[Salty Again]

... So the illegal crossers come in for Humanitarian Reasons
- and then commit the crimes... A LOT of sexual assaults
and murders there.

And the American people have Kamala to thank for it.
The Ruination of America. ...

#### Salty

[DEAR_JOHN]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

That is not evidence - “it was well known”. Try again.

You’re making things up again, DJ.

The jack shit you claim was never said? Look within, señor!

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... So the illegal crossers come in for Humanitarian Reasons
- and then commit the crimes... A LOT of sexual assaults
and murders there.

And the American people have Kamala to thank for it.
The Ruination of America. ...

#### Salty

Heysoos!

Harris has been "The Ruination of America?"

You're precious, son!

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by DEAR_JOHN

Any reason why the graphic you posted at the head of this bait and snitch thread didn't have a qualifying link?

Any answer to the question I asked about it?

I looked for the source and saw it. Did you?

It is well known that you're unable to back up your wild exaggerated and preponderously false claims.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Any answer to the question I asked about it?

I looked for the source and saw it. Did you?

It is well known that you're unable to back up your wild exaggerated and preponderously false claims.

To answer your question - ICE sent the letter with this information to Congressman Tony Gonzales (R-TX) because he is the representative who requested it six months ago.

I found the actual letter for you (see link below).

You're welcome, Yssup.

As you can see, the letter contains a detailed breakdown of the crimes which migrants have been convicted of/are charged with. The numbers are staggering and, inexplicably, most of the convicted criminals are "non-detained", i.e. they are out there freely roaming the country and able to commit more crimes.

From the letter:

"As of July 21, 2024, there were 662,566 noncitizens with criminal histories on ICE’s national docket, which includes those detained by ICE, and on the agency’s non-detained docket. Of those, 435,719 are convicted criminals, and 226,847 have pending criminal charges."


https://homeland.house.gov/wp-conten...y-Gonzales.pdf


Although the letter from ICE claims that "most noncitizens who are convicted of homicide are typically not eligible for release from ICE custody" - the table shows there are a total of 13,099 migrants who have been convicted of murder yet are still non-detained.

[txdot-guy]

I’m not seeing anything on this in my usual places. I wonder if they are trying to dig up more details before printing rather than just spitting out a headline and a placeholder story?

[bb1961]

😄 That’s a good one!!!

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

I’m not seeing anything on this in my usual places. I wonder if they are trying to dig up more details before printing rather than just spitting out a headline and a placeholder story?

Originally Posted by bb1961

😄 That’s a good one!!!

I’m serious. After doing some internet searches and looking at the times, the post, the wall street journal and the bbc I can’t find anything with some real depth of detail about the numbers and the time frame they were using.

As far as I can tell this story is nothing but some republican congressman and Don the Con talking about how doomed the country is and how it’s all Kamala’s fault. Without more nuance and detail this story seems like nothing but republican propaganda. Details Please!

[Yssup Rider]

Yeah, this stinks to high heaven,

[DEAR_JOHN]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Yes, it was definitely deliberate. And to our benefit actually. The extra labor that immigrants, legal or otherwise, provided helped keep inflation manageable by providing cheaper labor costs during and after the pandemic. they also contributed to social security and medicare revenue that they will never get.

There are so many things I would love to post as a reply to this, however I don't want to get a slap on the wrist or points. The one thing I can say is due to the board rules............words just escape me. I would say thanks for the laugh, but that would imply that I didn't take this reply in the spirit it was made.

[HDGristle]

Interesting

These figures contain folks who entered the country under Trump, too.

[HDGristle]

Edit- Double

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Seems to me from what I've read on the subject that blaming the Biden/Harris administration totally for this is BS.

"More than 13,000 immigrants convicted of homicide — either in the United States or abroad — are living outside of Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention, according to data ICE provided to Congress earlier this week.

It is not clear when the first migrant of the 13,000 crossed into the U.S. Two law enforcement officials familiar with the data told NBC News many of the migrants on ICE’s non-detained docket, including serious criminals, crossed into the U.S. under previous administrations, including that of former President Donald Trump.

A DHS spokesman told NBC News in a statement: "The data in this letter is being misinterpreted. The data goes back decades; it includes people who entered the country over the past 40 year or more, the vast majority of whose custody determination was made long before this administration. It also includes many who are under the jurisdiction or currently incarcerated by federal, state or local law enforcement partners.""

https://www.nbcnews.com/investigatio...ata-rcna173125

[Yssup Rider]

Trump and the MAGA cult “misinterpreting” data?

Nah, impossible!

When context added, the figures being pushed by TWK, ###Salty and the other guy and attributed to Harris are bullshit.

Who knew?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by DEAR_JOHN

There are so many things I would love to post as a reply to this, however I don't want to get a slap on the wrist or points. The one thing I can say is due to the board rules............words just escape me. I would say thanks for the laugh, but that would imply that I didn't take this reply in the spirit it was made.

Yeah, you’re pushing Bullshit for a change. Admit those numbers were without context, but simply parroted from something you saw on Fox.

That should be one of the things you would love to say about this topic.

Continually pushing falsehoods is an indication of a lot of things. I’d love to say more, but …