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11-01-2021, 10:39 PM
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#271
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Originally Posted by Strokey_McDingDong
You shouldn't defend Mucus. I wanted him to go on about how smart and educated he is LOL.
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... Hmmm... ya think i should start a FLASH poll?
"Who is more of a BRAGGART - Lucas or Trump??"
... Hmmmm... rather close call...
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11-01-2021, 10:47 PM
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Yes. But Mucus still supports Supreme Leader's social credit system. That he cannot deny.
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11-01-2021, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty Again
Who is more of a BRAGGART - Lucas or Trump??"
... Hmmmm... rather close call...
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Haha. I don't claim I know everything like Trump does. I just know what I know and in previous threads, I was making ignorant stubborn statements about Covid because I didn't know what I was talking about like the people who are still making ignorant statements about it because they still don't know what they are talking about. I'm man enough to admit I was wrong and will not defend me being stupid about that fact to save face.
Strokey is just mad that he needs his socialist stimulus welfare checks and I don't. He'll get over it. Or maybe he won't. Fuck if I care either way. Anyway, I would have nothing to do with someone like Strokey in RL, so I am not sure why I am even entertaining his usual absurdity on a whore board right now. I must be in a good and charitable mood because I usually just ignore him.
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11-01-2021, 11:01 PM
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You apparently don't know what a social credit system is. I'm going to assume you're trolling to get a rise out of me, but just in case, I will briefly explain.
You said you want people who have proof of vaccination to have privileges over those who don't. That's a social credit system.
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The Social Credit System is a national credit rating and blacklist being developed by the government of the People's Republic of China.
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A vaccine mandate and special privileges for those who have proof of vaccination and blacklisting those who do not is creating a social credit system, like what you see in China.
This is what you support.
Please stop deflecting.
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11-01-2021, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Strokey_McDingDong
You apparently don't know what a social credit system is. I'm going to assume you're trolling to get a rise out of me, but just in case, I will briefly explain.
You said you want people who have proof of vaccination to have privileges over those who don't. That's a social credit system.
That's what you support.
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... That's better... Honest discussion
WITHOUT the insults, mates.
... I'll get out o' the way...
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11-01-2021, 11:17 PM
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Well, just to reiterate, a social credit system is not welfare or social services.
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11-01-2021, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty Again
... That's better... Ignorant discussion
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FTFY in red. LOL
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11-02-2021, 12:13 AM
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Good comeback, but whether I collect welfare or not has nothing to do with the social credit system currently being implemented in the United States.
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11-02-2021, 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Strokey_McDingDong
Good comeback, but whether I collect welfare or not has nothing to do with the social credit system currently being implemented in the United States.
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Companies want their employees vaccinated because of how much it cost them insurance wise when they get Covid and hospitalized.
I missed the post where you linked this national credit system...could you please repost it.
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11-02-2021, 05:51 AM
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I missed the post where you linked this national credit system...could you please repost it.
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Vaccine passports and IDs are themselves a social credit system, because they blacklist those who do not have the passport or ID and grant social privileges to those that do. It functions the same as a social credit system and creates a social caste, which is what you and many others support.
It's one thing to be pro vaccine. It's another thing to want to create a social hierarchy where those with vaccines and boosters enjoy a higher social status than those without.
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11-02-2021, 06:36 AM
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Companies want their employees vaccinated because of how much it cost them insurance wise when they get Covid and hospitalized.
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You have to pay for insurance regardless of whether you get sick or not. I don't think actually using the insurance once you are sick increases it's cost. Am I not understanding what insurance is?
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11-02-2021, 08:14 AM
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11-02-2021, 09:15 AM
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Social credit system Hmm Just like CHINA ,,,
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11-02-2021, 09:23 AM
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Tiny - from your quoted article -
- The body of evidence for infection-induced immunity is more limited than that for vaccine-induced immunity in terms of the quality of evidence (e.g., probable bias towards symptomatic or medically-attended infections) and types of studies (e.g., observational cohort studies, mostly retrospective versus a mix of randomized controlled trials, case-control studies, and cohort studies for vaccine-induced immunity). There are insufficient data to extend the findings related to infection-induced immunity at this time to persons with very mild or asymptomatic infection or children.
- Substantial immunologic evidence and a growing body of epidemiologic evidence indicate that vaccination after infection significantly enhances protection and further reduces risk of reinfection, which lays the foundation for CDC recommendations.
Thank you for teh contribution
Information to add to my decision process.
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11-02-2021, 11:15 AM
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Tiny - from your quoted article -
- The body of evidence for infection-induced immunity is more limited than that for vaccine-induced immunity in terms of the quality of evidence (e.g., probable bias towards symptomatic or medically-attended infections) and types of studies (e.g., observational cohort studies, mostly retrospective versus a mix of randomized controlled trials, case-control studies, and cohort studies for vaccine-induced immunity). There are insufficient data to extend the findings related to infection-induced immunity at this time to persons with very mild or asymptomatic infection or children.
- Substantial immunologic evidence and a growing body of epidemiologic evidence indicate that vaccination after infection significantly enhances protection and further reduces risk of reinfection, which lays the foundation for CDC recommendations.
Thank you for teh contribution
Information to add to my decision process.
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Oeb, I had thought that natural infection was superior to the vaccines, in providing immunity. That was based on what we've been reading about Israel. But after reading the CDC advice I'm not so sure. I wonder if your level of immunity from infection may depend on how severe the disease was? For example, would people who had mild COVID or an asymptomatic infection have less protection? I really have no idea. But my doctor told me he'd gotten, in his words, "100 micrograms of mRNA" (Moderna) in each of his COVID injections, and he was sick for a couple of days afterwards each time. He said that was good, it meant the vaccine was working and stimulating immune response. So maybe the same principle works for infections -- if you get more than a mild case, maybe you're better protected.
He said "100 micrograms of mRNA" with a lot of gusto, the way I'd say "350 cubic inches of pure power" about the engine in a car I had years ago.
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