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02-11-2019, 09:29 AM
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HaHa...maybe you should have told that to Bush. He wouldn't have had to admit that there were no WMD's in Iraq. .
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they did find WMDs in iraq.
He got bad advice from Karl Rove on the making the finding WMDs public.
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02-11-2019, 09:49 AM
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HaHa...maybe you should have told that to Bush. He wouldn't have had to admit that there were no WMD's in Iraq.
Good Lord , only the far right loons believe such nonsense.
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IS, al-Qaeda, and how jihad uses chemical weapons
the gasses tested were homemade and included phosgene, chlorine and hydrogen cyanide...
After 9/11, al-Zarqawi fled westwards through Iran to a Kurdish region of northern Iraq ...
Chlorine was and still is readily available in Iraq and has been used frequently in truck bombs by jihadists there and also in Syria ...
"It was the easiest of all the gases al-Qaeda experiments on to make," says Mr Deen.
"Since the substances that are necessary for chlorine are easily available everywhere, it was his (al-Zarqawi's) weapon of choice.
"Since it wasn't lethal, (it was still) potent enough to cause irritation or cases of severe respiratory problems and difficulties and that will drive an enemy away and cause casualties."
(BBC)
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Dose toxicity
Humans can smell chlorine gas at ranges from 0.1–0.3 ppm. According to a review from 2010: "At 1–3 ppm, there is mild mucus membrane irritation that can usually be tolerated for about an hour. At 5–15 ppm, there is moderate mucus membrane irritation. At 30 ppm and beyond, there is immediate chest pain, shortness of breath, and cough. At approximately 40–60 ppm, a toxic pneumonitis and/or acute pulmonary edema can develop.... Concentrations of about 400 ppm and beyond are generally fatal over 30 minutes, and at 1,000 ppm and above, fatality ensues within only a few minutes." (Wiki)
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02-11-2019, 10:10 AM
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they did find WMDs in iraq.
He got bad advice from Karl Rove on the making the finding WMDs public.
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So Bush invaded Iraq which was sold as a WMD hunt.
Bush found WMD's in Iraq but Carl Rove talked him out of telling the American public and into admitting there were no WMD's in Iraq? Is that wtf you are trying to convince others to believe?
Please let me know when a tooth falls out and I'll send over the Tooth fairy.
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02-11-2019, 10:18 AM
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Despite what the reporter wrote:
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Do you not understand the stupidity of wtf you are posting? Saddam did not want those fuckers in Iraq. And they were not while he was ruling. After we invaded Afghanistan...most fled to Pakistan . This guy fled to a region of Iraq that Saddam had little control ….the Kurdish region.
So you are trying to say that it was smart to get rid of Saddam who hated those terrorist in his country because why?
Nothing you have posted makes a bit of sense as to why we invaded Iraq and how stupid it was to do so...even Trump agrees with me on that.
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was a Jordanian jihadist who was released from prison in Jordan in 1998. He went straight to Afghanistan where he was intensively trained by a master bomb-maker before setting up his own camp at Herat in the west of the country.
After 9/11, al-Zarqawi fled westwards through Iran to a Kurdish region of northern Iraq where he joined forces with a jihadist group called Ansar al-Islam.
Once the Americans invaded Iraq in 2003 al-Zarqawi was instrumental in forming the al-Qaeda cell that eventually morphed into today's self-styled Islamic State.
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02-11-2019, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by WTF
Do you not understand the stupidity of wtf you are posting? Saddam did not want those fuckers in Iraq. And they were not while he was ruling. After we invaded Afghanistan...most fled to Pakistan . This guy fled to a region of Iraq that Saddam had little control ….the Kurdish region.
So you are trying to say that it was smart to get rid of Saddam who hated those terrorist in his country because why?
Nothing you have posted makes a bit of sense as to why we invaded Iraq and how stupid it was to do so...even Trump agrees with me on that.
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was a Jordanian jihadist who was released from prison in Jordan in 1998. He went straight to Afghanistan where he was intensively trained by a master bomb-maker before setting up his own camp at Herat in the west of the country.
After 9/11, al-Zarqawi fled westwards through Iran to a Kurdish region of northern Iraq where he joined forces with a jihadist group called Ansar al-Islam.
Once the Americans invaded Iraq in 2003 al-Zarqawi was instrumental in forming the al-Qaeda cell that eventually morphed into today's self-styled Islamic State.
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It makes perfect sense to people not wearing or hiding behind liberal blinders.
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02-12-2019, 12:44 AM
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So Bush invaded Iraq which was sold as a WMD hunt.
Bush found WMD's in Iraq but Carl Rove talked him out of telling the American public and into admitting there were no WMD's in Iraq? Is that wtf you are trying to convince others to believe?
Please let me know when a tooth falls out and I'll send over the Tooth fairy.
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no tooth fairy.
when the subject of the wmds were found, Bush wanted to make announcement on that, but Karl Rove told Bush not to go there, "we lost that fight" over the wmds. so yes, no wmd found officially.... which was not true.
as a consequence, the pentagon classified it as top secret so the insurgents can't get hold of it and didn't bother to tell the soldiers who had gotten sick after the exposure of those munitions which contained sarin and mustard gas chemicals. Doctors didn't know what was wrong with them.
I posted a link on this a very good while back. i'm having trouble finding the link I posted.
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02-12-2019, 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm
no tooth fairy.
when the subject of the wmds were found, Bush wanted to make announcement on that, but Karl Rove told Bush not to go there, "we lost that fight" over the wmds. so yes, no wmd found officially.... which was not true.
as a consequence, the pentagon classified it as top secret so the insurgents can't get hold of it and didn't bother to tell the soldiers who had gotten sick after the exposure of those munitions which contained sarin and mustard gas chemicals. Doctors didn't know what was wrong with them.
I posted a link on this a very good while back. i'm having trouble finding the link I posted.
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Those WMD's that were found by the soldiers in the Bush43 invasion of Iraq were designed by the USA manufactured in Europe and installed on Iraq soil by WESTERN companies. The design was from the 1980's and those weapons had corroded to the point that they could no longer worked as originally designed. The soldiers that got exposed and got sick were getting sick from weapons the USA designed. This link from the New York Times was posted by the infamous J.D Barleycorn 4 years. Do some homework dilbert.
From the link:
Others pointed to another embarrassment. In five of six incidents in which troops were wounded by chemical agents, the munitions appeared to have been designed in the United States, manufactured in Europe and filled in chemical agent production lines built in Iraq by Western companies.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...l-weapons.html
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02-12-2019, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm
no tooth fairy.
when the subject of the wmds were found, Bush wanted to make announcement on that, but Karl Rove told Bush not to go there, "we lost that fight" over the wmds. so yes, no wmd found officially.... which was not true.
as a consequence, the pentagon classified it as top secret so the insurgents can't get hold of it and didn't bother to tell the soldiers who had gotten sick after the exposure of those munitions which contained sarin and mustard gas chemicals. Doctors didn't know what was wrong with them.
I posted a link on this a very good while back. i'm having trouble finding the link I posted.
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Maybe the Pentagon got a hold of your post exposing their hiding wmd's and deleted it.
Check Alex Jones!
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02-12-2019, 07:53 AM
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Those WMD's that were found by the soldiers in the Bush43 invasion of Iraq were designed by the USA manufactured in Europe and installed on Iraq soil by WESTERN companies. The design was from the 1980's and those weapons had corroded to the point that they could no longer worked as originally designed. The soldiers that got exposed and got sick were getting sick from weapons the USA designed. This link from the New York Times was posted by the infamous J.D Barleycorn 4 years. Do some homework dilbert.
From the link:
Others pointed to another embarrassment. In five of six incidents in which troops were wounded by chemical agents, the munitions appeared to have been designed in the United States, manufactured in Europe and filled in chemical agent production lines built in Iraq by Western companies.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...l-weapons.html
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Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
dilbert is peddling more bs now than IB.
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02-12-2019, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by adav8s28
Those WMD's that were found by the soldiers in the Bush43 invasion of Iraq were designed by the USA manufactured in Europe and installed on Iraq soil by WESTERN companies. The design was from the 1980's and those weapons had corroded to the point that they could no longer worked as originally designed. The soldiers that got exposed and got sick were getting sick from weapons the USA designed. This link from the New York Times was posted by the infamous J.D Barleycorn 4 years. Do some homework dilbert.
From the link:
Others pointed to another embarrassment. In five of six incidents in which troops were wounded by chemical agents, the munitions appeared to have been designed in the United States, manufactured in Europe and filled in chemical agent production lines built in Iraq by Western companies.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...l-weapons.html
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Your POV reeks of condescension, but using chemicals dispersed by conventional explosives was exactly what Zarqarwi intended for Amman. Zarqarwi was immaginative, and he did have "new designs" for such chemical weapons that you so dismissively remark that "could no longer worked as originally designed." The 500lb air-to-ground bombs that he deployed as IEDs were also not "used as originally designed."
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Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
dilbert is peddling more bs now than IB.
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Psssst! Zaqarwi planned to kill 80,000 innocents with his chemical weapons in Amman.
And Odumbo lied, and Kerry lied, and Iran cheated on Odumbo's POS treaty from day one.
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02-12-2019, 01:23 PM
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They lied???
Lock them up! Lock them up!
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02-12-2019, 01:50 PM
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[SIZE="4"][COLOR="Black"] Your POV reeks of condescension, but using chemicals dispersed by conventional explosives was exactly what Zarqarwi intended for Amman
Psssst! Zaqarwi planned to kill 80,000 innocents with his chemical weapons in Amman.
And Odumbo lied, and Kerry lied, and Iran cheated on Odumbo's POS treaty from day one.
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The problem with your bullshit is that Saddam was not going to let him do that.
You act as if Saddam wanted those idiots in Iraq.
We did not have to invade Iraq.
Saddam would have taken these fuckers out.
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02-12-2019, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by WTF
The problem with your bullshit is that Saddam was not going to let him do that.
You act as if Saddam wanted those idiots in Iraq.
We did not have to invade Iraq.
Saddam would have taken these fuckers out.
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There is no way you can reconcile what you just posted with the factual reality that Zarqawi was in Iraq DOING IT! DOING IT! DOING IT! So, your notion that "Saddam wouldn't let him", is BS.
Zarqawi was Jordanian; not Iranian. Zarqawi was Sunni, like Saddam; not Shi'ite, like the Ayatollah.
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02-13-2019, 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by adav8s28
Those WMD's that were found by the soldiers in the Bush43 invasion of Iraq were designed by the USA manufactured in Europe and installed on Iraq soil by WESTERN companies. The design was from the 1980's and those weapons had corroded to the point that they could no longer worked as originally designed. The soldiers that got exposed and got sick were getting sick from weapons the USA designed. This link from the New York Times was posted by the infamous J.D Barleycorn 4 years. Do some homework dilbert.
From the link:
Others pointed to another embarrassment. In five of six incidents in which troops were wounded by chemical agents, the munitions appeared to have been designed in the United States, manufactured in Europe and filled in chemical agent production lines built in Iraq by Western companies.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...l-weapons.html
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Maybe the Pentagon got a hold of your post exposing their hiding wmd's and deleted it.
Check Alex Jones!
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pentagon had nothing to do with it.
I found it. took some digging.
https://www.eccie.net/showthread.php...post1055916770
just a problem with the search parameters.
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02-13-2019, 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by WTF
So Bush invaded Iraq which was sold as a WMD hunt.
Bush found WMD's in Iraq but Carl Rove talked him out of telling the American public and into admitting there were no WMD's in Iraq? Is that wtf you are trying to convince others to believe?
Please let me know when a tooth falls out and I'll send over the Tooth fairy.
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more on Karl Rove's brilliant genius.
https://www.americanthinker.com/arti..._delusion.html
this details on the cover up on the WMD discovery.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...s-real-wmd.htm
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