Sugar Daddys

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by Gotyour6

Just wanted to make sure everyone saw this seems how it sums it up for this site.

I pay more for my SB than I ever have with a hooker.
I am not looking for cheap pussy, I dont care if she loves me and we get along just fine.

When I ask her to go to lunch she doesnt give me a rate per hour.
We are going to an apple farm this weekend and then a haunted house.

Congratulations! You just won a free BJ and a new washing machine. (not to be taken literally...)

[ForumPoster]

Originally Posted by ninasastri

and how we agree on the fact that escorts "sell" love and SBs also "sell" love? It was an "inside joke", sorry... just a point about people deluding themselves..

There is no difference between SDs and clients and SBs and escorts. None. It`s just words! And interpretations . But - well, if you get down to the core... tomato tomato , as we all know.

Is there an SD out there NOT screwing an SB? I doubt it. Sooooo ????????? ?

Naaah we hookers don't get it. Sugar Babes are better, they are not into this for the money . They don't sell love - they give it in exchange for monetary consideration )

[bladtinzu]

Originally Posted by Sensual Lina

@ bladtinzu Would love to give you detailed response, but unfortunately you seem to miss a point of what makes a good debate. My bad, i should have realized a while ago that psychopaths (people who "lack the emotions it takes to actually give a shit about people in general" ) have their own unique logic. And before you come up with another reference to out house or something equally full of hatred for women you have to pay to get laid ... keep in mind that for every derogatory statement you make, there are at least two to be made back. Unlike you I simply choose not to go that route.


@molnar who said there is winning or loosing? Like i mentioned before - it is hilarious to see you guys defend your self delusions with such seriousness. Lighten up .. or better yet get laid

Lina

Your basic lack of education shows very well. It is sociopath. If you are going to resort to petty name calling because you lack basic debate skills at least get it right.. Pity. And top rated in New York. I do a lot up there and never heard of you till recently. But then again women tend to be quite exorbitant in the discription of their fantasized prowess anyway so just par for course.. And we all know TER reviews were a sham. All you had to do was screw the owner and bam! Great reviews for life.

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by bladtinzu

All you had to do was screw the owner and bam! Great reviews for life.

Gosh.....if life was just THAT easy.
Hence the question: Is TER a SB?

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by bladtinzu

Agreed.. But escorts as SB's is an epic FAIL unless you totally quit the escorting.



And I fail to understand why you women keep saying it is nothing except the guys getting cheap trim... If the ladies are so offended and see it as potential competition then possibly one would take the "bull by the horns" and adjust rates seeing that some of you feel so threatened by it.. I mean even I had to adjust my hourly rates when new strong competition came into the realm of my business. Sucked going from $1,500 an hour to $1,000 but you gotta do what you gotta do. Beats loosing accounts.

As to point 1: quitting escorting. So the debate is about monogamy then? That is at least what I assume?
Because SBs are supposed to date only the SD?
How about the one`s that lie? (I knew one , who got money for a fur coat from 3 gents, only bought one and showed to all three of them.... congrats....Honestly?? )

I have been a SB (not planned, though) within one or two of my relationships in my life. I loved these guys. That was about the only difference. But since love is not something planned, it can also happen in escort relationships.

BOTH of these guys I got to know as clients. The first one wanted me to quit the escorting, and I did, of course.

So your point that escorts and "SBs" don`t resemble each other and are of the same kind, is kind of pointless.

One of my exes used to say to this question "The only difference between SB and escorts is, that you need to make a decision if you want to be dependent on ONE person or on MANY, when thinking about money."

I still think he`s right.
And as far as I am concerned. True SBs ARE not cheap. Sometimes it is referred to as cheap pussy, because some "non-professional whores" with idiot business skills claim to be SBs. That is all.

As to "us hookers" not getting it:
I am a person wearing many hats. I would not define myself as a "hooker". I work as an escort, but I AM not an escort.

Granted, there are women out there, who are hookers without even having rates and a homepage , but I am not one of them. Hence, I clearly see the "blue" when it comes to SDs and Clients.

Again, in my book when one pays and another one receives, it`s the same end of the spectre. Sorry, I am very very simpleminded in this regard.
True love does not exchange money, sorrx

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned how clients don't make good sugardaddy's either. Since the relationships are essentially different, the terms can't change mid-stream. When they do, things tend to go wrong.

When discretion is at the forefront of any relationship, things are better left discreet. When a clients wants to turn things into a SD/SB relationship, I respectfully decline. There are certain things SD's get to do and know that a client never will.

You could not be more right on that one. The guy I was dating in a SD relationship was actually not married and I was his GF (ok, he came up for all expenses , and yes, he was aware of that..., so strictly speaking I was a SB in love :-), and we had a good thing going for a while though.

Bad for me, I made some mistakes after dating that guy, because I assumed all clients turned lovers/SD are like him - a decent person , honest and helpful. That said I agree that clients generally speaking don`t make good SDs. Most of them either turn into non-sexual friendships or they expect services for free, because ... because .... well, I did not figure this out yet ... it`s mindboggling

Since I am not directly approaching a SD relationship for me this happened accidentally, and was directly involved with loving that person, and we had an offical open relationship (He was my first step into Polyamory...;-)...)

But I have to say guys like him are rare.
For me, anyone that is married does not qualify as SD either. Simply, because I would never make any changes in my life to suit a married guy and then be .. hmm .... just a secret.

A SD relationship is more time consuming and intricate than a client-escort relationship. Most often it is in favour of the guy. Only when you establish soe legitimate relationship it is really also about the girl.

Sorry, no offence, but I know this more often to be true than not. And I know plenty of women getting "sweet talked" and then used, either for free or for - well not much respect.

And after a certain age GUCCI is not important. It`s legitimacy that counts
So let`s cut down to the core:

Married guys dating SB are good people, because they know they need to pay for subserviants of marriage, since marriage is a financial contract and no legitimacy is to be expected.
However, once the guy is married, it very well resembles an escort-client relationship with a few degrees further, as the SD is most often totally financially dependent.

Unmarried SD entertainign some legitimate relationships are what I`d call "real sugar daddies". It`S almost like a real relationship, most likely though with an age gap and the guy takes care of the women`s education.
No offence, but my ex never bought me GUCCI. He bought me education. And helped me thru university. I think that is what a true SD is about. A mentor.

If I wanted GUCCI he would have lost all respect , sorry

[molnar]

Good Lord! Your arguments stretch the bounds of credulity to the breaking point.

I do not judge you. I have been with many women like you. You have chosen your life. I have chosen my life. A woman willing to fuck/suck multiple men every day of every week cannot by definition be a SB.

[iggy]

Molnar U are wasting your time trying ti reason with either one of them.

[bladtinzu]

Typical female.. Take away logic and reasoning and you get (drum roll everyone) a female....

[BigBadBazookaJoe]

Miss Keileigh,

What a great thread.

I've recently experienced the end of a SB/SD relationship. It was my first attempt at this. Lasted for about 18 months. She was in her 2nd semester of junior college and we agreed that we would end it when she finished JC and got accepted. That happened this summer and she left in August.

We had a wonderful relationship. She accepted the fact that I'm married, and I would never leave my wife, therefore there would never be anything more than a mutually beneficial relationship. But don't think for a minute there wasn't care, consideration and "love" between us. We looked out for each other. In some ways it was better than marriage. I don't exactly know how to explain, we were just so open and willing to meet each others needs. Maybe because we knew it was not for life, but for a short time and we depended on each other specifically for those needs.

I'm now looking at the role of a hobbyist. I don't know if it will be as fulfilling. I don't know if I want to be a "regular" or someone who plays the field. I am looking at the possibility of finding another SB. As you mentioned, and many posts mentioned some providers are looking for this.

I can see both positions and some of the variances in the areas between. I don't think there is a hard fast rule. And I think I'm going to look at all of this open minded. Personally I'd like to find a girl like my xSB. Young, skinny, cute, and open to a mutually beneficial relationship not based on "exchanges (time for $)" but a continuing reciprocation based on meeting each others needs.

I hope I'm making sense...if not - excuse my frankness and statements to nubile position here in this community.

BazookaJoe
Creative Ingenuity Motivates

[Beau Derierre]

Could anyone Pm some worthy SD sites please.

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by bladtinzu

Typical female.. Take away logic and reasoning and you get (drum roll everyone) a female....

Hmmm... that reminds me of a good proverb about males:

"Never trust the shining eyes and the smile of a male, because it could be the sun that shines thru his empty head"

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by molnar

Good Lord! Your arguments stretch the bounds of credulity to the breaking point.

I do not judge you. I have been with many women like you. You have chosen your life. I have chosen my life. A woman willing to fuck/suck multiple men every day of every week cannot by definition be a SB.

Honey Bunny, I know I write long posts, but don`t you think you a) should read them before judging?

b) Who are you to tell me that I have not been a SD? Hello? Have you walked in my shoes? I think I am a little older than the usual 20 year old play puppy, so , hello , yes it`s possible, I`ve had a life, too??? And done many more things , too??

c) Who said I worked as an escort the time I was in a SD relationship, I quit the job, that is why he offered me money in first place?

d) "woman willing to fuck/such multiple men...." again, your point? Monogamy? SBs have to be mono then? The Holy Virgin giving it away to you exclusively for money? Oh what a wet dream!!!!! In my next life I want to be a male getting off on that fantasy.... You guys are SO EASY to please )) Seriously --- That is the difference in all this discussion? And how would you know your SB is monogamous? SOme lie, go figure.....same like married cheaters?? So , again, what`s your point? My point is that women who get paid are sexworkers. Escorts, SBs? Tomato , Tomato. Period. Proof different. Can you?

e) so your logic sucks and I have prooven it by your own two liners.

f) and Please don`t tell me what I cannot or can be by definition, because - you might not get this into your one-dimensioned vision of the world, but I AM not an escort, at least not 24/7. I choose to WORK like one at times. I assume any other escort does so too, at least the ones I know.

so much about "choosing life". I am flexible and wear many hats. Does this go far beyond your imaginable lifestyles? And as far as I am aware, no escort ONLY does this job! So what are you talking about?

[bladtinzu]

Originally Posted by ninasastri

Hmmm... that reminds me of a good proverb about males:

"Never trust the shining eyes and the smile of a male, because it could be the sun that shines thru his empty head"

Women are easily replaced. Disposable one might say..

[ForumPoster]

Originally Posted by ninasastri

Hmmm... that reminds me of a good proverb about males:

"Never trust the shining eyes and the smile of a male, because it could be the sun that shines thru his empty head"

My Italian friend says "if its got wheels or dick, it will give you trouble"