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Old 06-06-2021, 07:40 AM   #166
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In thinking about the upcoming long dark winter ...
From more than one physician and/or hospital staff it has been stated to me that you should not take both .... flue & Covid19.

Do a little more inquiry into the potential threats that the "Covid19" shots address ... aside from the primary target.

Also, if you have any other body fluid issues (and I'm not asking what they might be) you might want to address them by seeking CONFIRMATION that the organs processing those fluids WILL NOT BE AFFECTED by any of the shots in the "market"!

I'll just leave it at that other than opining that the information being released regarding these opinions as to what is appropriate is incomplete ... as is much medical advice, which includes treatments by injections and/or pills.

Almost all of the reporting is "political" and "social" in nature. And I clearly wouldn't pay attention to the self-proclaimed scientists posting on Eccie for advice. FYI: I am directing your learned attention to legitimate resources for scientific/pharmaceutical guidance...that's what I do, because the physicians/etc use pharma ads and publicity sheets for their resource. I don't.
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Old 06-06-2021, 07:54 AM   #167
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From more than one physician and/or hospital staff it has been stated to me that you should not take both .... flue & Covid19.....

I moved the post to a new thread as it might violate the OP an I didn't want to go to far off the rails.. Is it possible to move your reply to the thread, before your cookie times out?
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Old 06-06-2021, 08:38 PM   #168
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Forgive me, I haven't read all the pages so if this joke has already been told, forgive me.


I'll give credit to Bill Mahr for this one "several players on the Yankees, tested positive for Covid after being fully vaccinated ( as Mahr was ), I told you Covid came from bats!!!! Bada Boom!
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Old 06-06-2021, 08:51 PM   #169
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Forgive me, I haven't read all the pages so if this joke has already been told, forgive me.

I'll give credit to Bill Mahr for this one "several players on the Yankees, tested positive for Covid after being fully vaccinated ( as Mahr was ), I told you Covid came from bats!!!! Bada Boom!

were they using moderna?
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Old 06-06-2021, 09:14 PM   #170
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were they using moderna?
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Old 06-07-2021, 02:12 PM   #172
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yeah that one flew over my head.



I read it 3 times, before i realized it was a joke.



I didn't get the joke tho.
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Old 06-08-2021, 09:23 AM   #173
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no , planed or simply predicted and exploited ( see event ---201 )
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They knew it was coming ten years ago!


https://www.nommeraadio.ee/meedia/pd...uDqRI2pO7nvc6U
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The healthiest people that will come out of this Pandemic are the ones that never listened to Fauci, CDC or any other person or organization associated with the Government.
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Its past time to start asking "Where's my check from China?" Your check too. I don't want it from the US so me and my children have to repay it.

Where's my China check?
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Can't help myself......I thought Trump, et al. we're associated with the gov't....at least in the past.
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This is extremely interesting, even to a layman like me. Will Dr. Fauci respond?


The Science Suggests a Wuhan Lab Leak

The Covid-19 pathogen has a genetic footprint that has never been observed in a natural coronavirus.

By Steven Quay and Richard Muller
June 6, 2021 11:59 am ET

The possibility that the pandemic began with an escape from the Wuhan Institute of Virology is attracting fresh attention. President Biden has asked the national intelligence community to redouble efforts to investigate.

Much of the public discussion has focused on circumstantial evidence: mysterious illnesses in late 2019; the lab’s work intentionally supercharging viruses to increase lethality (known as “gain of function” research). The Chinese Communist Party has been reluctant to release relevant information. Reports based on U.S. intelligence have suggested the lab collaborated on projects with the Chinese military.

But the most compelling reason to favor the lab leak hypothesis is firmly based in science. In particular, consider the genetic fingerprint of CoV-2, the novel coronavirus responsible for the disease Covid-19.

In gain-of-function research, a microbiologist can increase the lethality of a coronavirus enormously by splicing a special sequence into its genome at a prime location. Doing this leaves no trace of manipulation. But it alters the virus spike protein, rendering it easier for the virus to inject genetic material into the victim cell. Since 1992 there have been at least 11 separate experiments adding a special sequence to the same location. The end result has always been supercharged viruses.

A genome is a blueprint for the factory of a cell to make proteins. The language is made up of three-letter “words,” 64 in total, that represent the 20 different amino acids. For example, there are six different words for the amino acid arginine, the one that is often used in supercharging viruses. Every cell has a different preference for which word it likes to use most.

In the case of the gain-of-function supercharge, other sequences could have been spliced into this same site. Instead of a CGG-CGG (known as “double CGG”) that tells the protein factory to make two arginine amino acids in a row, you’ll obtain equal lethality by splicing any one of 35 of the other two-word combinations for double arginine. If the insertion takes place naturally, say through recombination, then one of those 35 other sequences is far more likely to appear; CGG is rarely used in the class of coronaviruses that can recombine with CoV-2.

In fact, in the entire class of coronaviruses that includes CoV-2, the CGG-CGG combination has never been found naturally. That means the common method of viruses picking up new skills, called recombination, cannot operate here. A virus simply cannot pick up a sequence from another virus if that sequence isn’t present in any other virus.

Although the double CGG is suppressed naturally, the opposite is true in laboratory work. The insertion sequence of choice is the double CGG. That’s because it is readily available and convenient, and scientists have a great deal of experience inserting it. An additional advantage of the double CGG sequence compared with the other 35 possible choices: It creates a useful beacon that permits the scientists to track the insertion in the laboratory.

Now the damning fact. It was this exact sequence that appears in CoV-2. Proponents of zoonotic origin must explain why the novel coronavirus, when it mutated or recombined, happened to pick its least favorite combination, the double CGG. Why did it replicate the choice the lab’s gain-of-function researchers would have made?

Yes, it could have happened randomly, through mutations. But do you believe that? At the minimum, this fact—that the coronavirus, with all its random possibilities, took the rare and unnatural combination used by human researchers—implies that the leading theory for the origin of the coronavirus must be laboratory escape.

When the lab’s Shi Zhengli and colleagues published a paper in February 2020 with the virus’s partial genome, they omitted any mention of the special sequence that supercharges the virus or the rare double CGG section. Yet the fingerprint is easily identified in the data that accompanied the paper. Was it omitted in the hope that nobody would notice this evidence of the gain-of-function origin?

But in a matter of weeks virologists Bruno Coutard and colleagues published their discovery of the sequence in CoV-2 and its novel supercharged site. Double CGG is there; you only have to look. They comment in their paper that the protein that held it “may provide a gain-of-function” capability to the virus, “for efficient spreading” to humans.

There is additional scientific evidence that points to CoV-2’s gain-of-function origin. The most compelling is the dramatic differences in the genetic diversity of CoV-2, compared with the coronaviruses responsible for SARS and MERS.

Both of those were confirmed to have a natural origin; the viruses evolved rapidly as they spread through the human population, until the most contagious forms dominated. Covid-19 didn’t work that way. It appeared in humans already adapted into an extremely contagious version. No serious viral “improvement” took place until a minor variation occurred many months later in England.

Such early optimization is unprecedented, and it suggests a long period of adaptation that predated its public spread. Science knows of only one way that could be achieved: simulated natural evolution, growing the virus on human cells until the optimum is achieved. That is precisely what is done in gain-of-function research. Mice that are genetically modified to have the same coronavirus receptor as humans, called “humanized mice,” are repeatedly exposed to the virus to encourage adaptation.

The presence of the double CGG sequence is strong evidence of gene splicing, and the absence of diversity in the public outbreak suggests gain-of-function acceleration. The scientific evidence points to the conclusion that the virus was developed in a laboratory.

Dr. Quay is founder of Atossa Therapeutics and author of “Stay Safe: A Physician’s Guide to Survive Coronavirus.” Mr. Muller is an emeritus professor of physics at the University of California Berkeley and a former senior scientist at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory.

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Can't help myself......I thought Trump, et al. we're associated with the gov't....at least in the past.
So do you think Trump is excluded?
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