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[Wakeup]

Originally Posted by Fast Gunn

Their "response" was insufficient and inadequate.

Then you might want to practice some of that "emotional management" you're preaching, and learn to live with disappointment. There are only so many more ways they can tell you to go fuck yourself...

Just sayin'...

[WTF]

Originally Posted by CarolineDavenport

As Wakeup said, that question was answered long ago. Everyone else figured out this was just FG's attempt to try to shame a female for having an opinion a man didn't give her, and we responded with the appropriate ridicule. Funny how the only two still carrying this banner are FG and WTF. .

Really....funny how you never acknowledged JessicaKnightly well thought out response. Was she trying to shame a female for having an opinion a man didn't give her.

Care to respond to her post?

Originally Posted by JessicaKnightly

First, it's HIS money and HIS choice with whom and how he wants to spend it. It is HER choice to accept it or not. Plain, simple, no need to get feeling hurt or defend how you do business.

If a client called and said, I want to be your first of the month, I would book him for Dec. 1st. Really simple for me since I never see more than one man in a day. If he requested I shave my head during a session, I would tell him to look elsewhere because I'm not going to shave my head. But, I'm not going to complain and call him a jerk for liking bald women and argue that it was a ridiculous request.

I can see many reasons this man may want to be the first in the day, not just a cleaner vagina.

But, let's examine this idea. The vagina is a self cleaning organ and douching or cleaning the interior is a very unhealthy practice so it really does take time to clean itself. However, if the provider is practicing safe sex with everyone then it is only being introduced to the outside of a condom and possibly a finger or tongue. If you are worried about going where some other dude's cock was, don't because the cock never comes in contact with the vagina only the condom does. If you are more concerned with saliva most of that will have been washed or showered off before you. So, unless she's going bareback or she doesn't shower/bathe/wash the area, she's going to be clean.

Other reasons I can think of might be that he doesn't want her stretched or sore after a much larger client fucks the shit out of her, tired or exhausted from a marathon fuck session, thinking of the good or bad time she just had with the last guy.

Think about it, would you want to see a woman that was pissed off and steaming mad about the asshole that just left? Sure, you could be the first appointment of the day and she could have just gotten in a fight with her mother and have the same unhappy feel. But, in general when the day starts a new, so do our attitudes.

Then there's the question of how many orgasms can you have in a short period of time? If the last guy gave you 5 or 6 big O's, will you have another 5 or 6 or will you be sexually satisfied? I know some girls are able to cum dozens of times in a short time; for me 4 or 5 in an hour is about my limit and once I reach that limit, I need some time to refuel. But, I'm alway extra horny in the morning or if I haven't been laid in a couple of days. Since I schedule the way I do, most of the time I don't get laid for a couple of days before each appt.

When I or someone I knows has to have surgery, I always want early in the day. I'm sure the doctor is just as good on his first patient as his 12th, but I want him fresh, alert, and not tired or trying to hurry up and get home.

Just my opinion, no judgment. But, if I was going to pay for time with someone, I too would want them fresh and full of energy, not worn out and tired. But, in the end, if she was still raring to go at it after her 6th appt, then so would I.

Originally Posted by sketchball82

Some guys like to get their rocks off in a mint vagina as opposed to one that's been pounded a few times that day. That's especially true if the guy likes DATY.

Originally Posted by CarolineDavenport

So far, the only person who has answered the question claiming to like requesting the first appointment cited pretty much my exact thoughts. She no longer has a "mint vagina" and has been "pounded a few times" already and apparently is no longer viable for DATY.

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After a few guys have burned rubber in your vagina ,some think it is no longer fresh. Agree or disagree is beside the point. The fact is some of us do not want to drive around the track dodging burnt rubber. Why is that such a horrible request? Can you at least try and just answer that question without hurling insults ? Why do you take such umbrage with the simple request? Is it because you think your veegee is fresh and clean 24/7 and anybody that questions that is nuts? Can you tell me why you are showing such child like behavior to such a simple question.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Wakeup

Then you might want to practice some of that "emotional management" you're preaching, and learn to live with disappointment. There are only so many more ways they can tell you to go fuck yourself...

Just sayin'...

He can always fuck himself first thing in the morning and Caroline can be his second.

[Fast Gunn]

Caroline, please heed my warning on this.

Do not mess with WTF.

Usually we keep him hidden under a rock, but sometimes he crawls out just to cause mischief or maybe run a sweet girl off the board with his acrid remarks.

I think he secretly wants to be the Queen Bitch of the board and feels threatened by you.

WTF is actually more like the Eccie version of Ebola, but we are working urgently on a vaccine for this deadly virus.

[Mokoa]

Originally Posted by Fast Gunn

Their "response" was insufficient and inadequate.

You know, sort of like your modest mental capacity.

. . . But even the concept must be difficult to grasp, you know without an actual brain to process the data.

You know...

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=16447

You are the last one to be commenting on the mental capacity of others.

[SA Angel]

FG.....do you not have practice asking for things politely?

"I like early morning appointments. So may I have your first appointment of the day? I'm not sure how early you can meet."

By framing your request as a preference or an early time slot you negate the connotation that you are worried she doesn't clean herself well and won't give you a good performance.

Other "little things" that you may ask that might annoy a provider, with my thoughts following.

"Can you freshly shave your legs before you see me?" - No really? I thought stubble was sexy.

"Try to look nice for me. I'm paying for it." - Yeeeeaaaah.....I suddenly had something come up. This guy is a douchebag and most likely will be a cheap bastard that will try the "I only have $$, is that ok?" or "How much for (something never on my menu)."

"I don't like girls with attitude. Be nice." - I don't like guys without tact. Goodbye.

The exact same requests can be made like this....

"I'm looking forward to meeting you. You seem like such a sweet girl that I'm sure we will have a wonderful time. I'm imagining you beautifully made up in a dress that shows off your beautiful smooth legs. I plan on rubbing them and feeling your soft skin."

That message clearly states your expectations in a complimentary way. Unless she a real piece of work, she'll take the hints offered and make sure you both have a good time. Seriously gentlemen, honey versus vinegar.

As a side note....FG you really come off as a misogynist. I have not met you so I reserve judgement but online personas do matter to many ladies.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by SAangel27

As a side note....FG you really come off as a misogynist. .

How so? A dumbass maybe but what has he done to come off as a misogynist? For not kissing a couple of ladies asses that get all butt hurt for anyone even suggesting that their hoohoo is not clean all the times? That means you hate women? Seems to me to mean you like fresh and clean vagina? Maybe if it was free he would be coming across as ungrateful but store bought hoochie thinks you hate women because you request a clean hoohoo? Come on.


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[Fast Gunn]

Actually, SAangel, I strive to be Mr. Diplomacy and do ask politely for what I want.

However, that is very often not enough and I have been misunderstood many times in spite of trying to be nice.

People always seem inclined to read something into what was said that was never intended.

The purpose of this thread was simply to uncover any other little things that may upset the ladies merely for asking. It's not supposed to be about me.

I was hoping that by providing a platform that the ladies might point out any other little pet peeves they have in dealing with customers and thank you for your contributions.

. . .However, to my mind, the actual problem is not in what or how the customer asks for any particular preference, but in the interpretation about that the request that the lady forms about the man. I have found that girls in general and providers in particular can be very touchy and I was hoping that by bringing out these misconceptions to the light of day that they might be dispelled and communications thereby enhanced. So why is there so much hostility in just holding the conversation?

Originally Posted by SAangel27

FG.....do you not have practice asking for things politely?

"I like early morning appointments. So may I have your first appointment of the day? I'm not sure how early you can meet."

By framing your request as a preference or an early time slot you negate the connotation that you are worried she doesn't clean herself well and won't give you a good performance.

Other "little things" that you may ask that might annoy a provider, with my thoughts following.

"Can you freshly shave your legs before you see me?" - No really? I thought stubble was sexy.

"Try to look nice for me. I'm paying for it." - Yeeeeaaaah.....I suddenly had something come up. This guy is a douchebag and most likely will be a cheap bastard that will try the "I only have $$, is that ok?" or "How much for (something never on my menu)."

"I don't like girls with attitude. Be nice." - I don't like guys without tact. Goodbye.

The exact same requests can be made like this....

"I'm looking forward to meeting you. You seem like such a sweet girl that I'm sure we will have a wonderful time. I'm imagining you beautifully made up in a dress that shows off your beautiful smooth legs. I plan on rubbing them and feeling your soft skin."

That message clearly states your expectations in a complimentary way. Unless she a real piece of work, she'll take the hints offered and make sure you both have a good time. Seriously gentlemen, honey versus vinegar.

As a side note....FG you really come off as a misogynist. I have not met you so I reserve judgement but online personas do matter to many ladies.

[MaxiMilyen]

[QUOTE=Fast Gunn;1055999570[FONT=Georgia]

The purpose of this thread was simply to uncover any other little things that may upset the ladies merely for asking. It's not supposed to be about me.

I was hoping that by providing a platform that the ladies might point out any other little pet peeves they have in dealing with customers and thank you for your contributions.

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]Each of these and in no particular order, may apply to one, some, or maybe even most of the ladies.......



1. I'm gonna take a shot in the dark here and say that "Can I be your first appointment?" is an irritant to some.
2. Can I pay (insert any dollar amount ya want here) less than what the lady advertises as what she thinks she's worth, and tack on to this insult, at least a couple hundred reasons why he can't afford her, but just has to have her, although one can clearly see that he sees ladies who advertise at her rate, and then some, on a regular basis.
3. Ask for a discount and BB as if that is perfectly acceptable and then gets snarky when she simply says "no.", or maybe even reports her on a bareback thread as providing such, cause he or one of his buddies didn't like that answer, causing her to have to deal with many more such inappropriate requests. This one also kinda irks us with the ladies who are doin' that kinda stuff, cause if more ladies were refusing this particular unsafe request, the rest of us wouldn't ever have to deal with it.
4. Do you (insert any service a particular lady has never provided and is easily researched and can be noted as not a service she provides or that EVER pops up on the activity section of reviews, yet is something he prefers) .
5. Not a question, but a statement a gent might make because he's too paranoid to provide any kinda of info or simply doesn't have any refs...." But I'm a really nice guy". I'm gonna take another shot in the dark at this point and imagine this could be a fav phrase that most serial killers would tell a lady if he were trying to get his foot in her door....hmmmm
6. What do YOU like? Ummmmmm..........." I like chocolate, holding hands, long walks on the beaches, the sound of children's laughter....." Another one of those, please see the thousands of words written by or about a lady ......there's a patttern there.....ya know? LOL. We are expected and appreciated for doing our research, please do yours....this is a hobby board, and this hobby requires a certain amount of prep time, as do most. If ya don't have time, please see BP where there is little or no info, and a lady might not have sooooooo much info readily available for you.
7. Make lude, crude, and or any other "socially unacceptable" remark to a lady when you've yet to meet her. We're still people as in any other given situation in which ya might make contact with a woman. There's nothing in our society that gives implied acceptance of such, simply because we happen to be escorts. A little respect, at least until we get naked together or discover what's ok about one another in that manner during or after the initial boink! .
8. Please do not imply, write or post, in any form or fashion, ignorant remarks about how stupid "all women" are, if ya don't wanna irritate them. The job title or term "Escort", despite the ignorant opinion of some, does, in no way, indicate such. Some of you often seem taken aback by our intelligence and even education levels.


These are not all, but rather a simple few that I am aware and that some of the ladies might be irritated by. Some or none may or may not apply to me. I'm observant and just kinda notice what irritates others, male and female, along with what pleases them.


Your Welcome.....


Disclaimer: See my first sentence, please.

[Fast Gunn]

Well, thanks for your contribution, MaxiMilyen, now we seem to making some progress in uncovering the minefields.

I can understand how being a provider makes a lady vulnerable to the many unsavory characters that may be dangerous and the need for caution.

However, there comes a point where paranoia sets in and you start to color everyone with the same black brush and that is a disservice to both parties.

I will now give you a personal anecdote to give you a better view of my own perspective on how little things can cause big problems.

Years ago, I had a minor misunderstanding with a truly stunning blonde who misinterpreted something I had said or done and painfully aborted the mission.

Weeks later, after we finally made up, she disclosed something that I found somewhat heartbreaking. She said "what I do is degrading enough".

. . .I think now that perhaps that misconception is at the core of what really troubles providers the most and they may lash out at an innocent request that ruins the session and turns pleasure into hatred. If your self-esteem is too fragile than any little thing can crush you even when no ill will was intended.


[QUOTE=MaxiMilyen;1055999804]

Originally Posted by Fast Gunn;1055999570[FONT=Georgia

The purpose of this thread was simply to uncover any other little things that may upset the ladies merely for asking. It's not supposed to be about me.

I was hoping that by providing a platform that the ladies might point out any other little pet peeves they have in dealing with customers and thank you for your contributions.

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]Each of these and in no particular order may apply to one, some, or maybe even most of the ladies.......



1. I'm gonna take a shot in the dark here and say that "Can I be your first appointment?" is an irritant to some.
2. Can I pay (insert any dollar amount ya want here) less than what the lady advertises as what she thinks she's worth, and tack on to this insult, at least a couple hundred reasons why he can't afford her, but just has to have her, although you can clearly see that he sees ladies who advertise at your rate, and then some, on a regular basis.
3. Ask for a discount and BB as if that is perfectly acceptable and then get snarky when ya say no. This one also kinda irks us with the ladies who are doin' that kinda stuff, cause if more ladies were refusing this particular unsafe request, the rest of us wouldn't ever have to deal with it.
4. Do you (insert any service a particular lady has never provided and is easily researched and can be noted as not a service she provides or that EVER pops up on the activity section of reviews, yet is something he prefers) .
5. Not a question, but a statement a gent might make because he's too paranoid to provide any kinda of info or simply doesn't have any refs...." But I'm a really nice guy". I'm gonna take another shot in the dark at this point and imagine this could be a fav phrase that most serial killers would tell a lady if he were trying to get his foot in her door....hmmmm
6. What do YOU like? Ummmmmm..........." I like chocolate, holding hands, long walks on the beaches, the sound of children's laughter....." Another one of those, please see the thousands of words written by or about a lady ......there's a patttern there.....ya know? LOL. We are expected and appreciated for doing our research, please do yours....this is a hobby board, and this hobby requires a certain amount of prep time, as do most. If ya don't have time, please see BP where there is little or no info, and a lady might not have sooooooo much info readily available for you.
7. Make lude, crude, and or any other "socially unacceptable" remark to a lady when you've yet to meet her. We're still people as in any other given situation in which ya might make contact with a woman. There's nothing in our society that gives implied acceptance of such, simply because we happen to be escorts. A little respect, at least until we get naked together or discover what's ok about one another in that manner during or after the initial boink! .
8. Please do not imply, write or post in any form or fashion ignorant remarks about how stupid "all women" are, if ya don't wanna irritate them. The job title or term "Escort", despite the ignorant opinion of some, does, in no form or fashion, indicate such. Some of you often seem taken aback by our intelligence and even education levels.


These are not all, but rather a simple few that I am aware and that some of the ladies might be irritated by. Some or none may or may not apply to me. I'm observant and just kinda notice what irritates others, male and female, along with what pleases them.


Your Welcome.....


Disclaimer: See my first sentence, please.

[MaxiMilyen]

[QUOTE=Fast Gunn;1055999938]Well, thanks for your contribution, MaxiMilyen, now we seem to making some progress in uncovering the minefields.

I can understand how being a provider makes a lady vulnerable to the many unsavory characters that may be dangerous and the need for caution.

However, there comes a point where paranoia sets in and you start to color everyone with the same black brush and that is a disservice to both parties.

I will now give you a personal anecdote to give you a better view of my own perspective on how little things can cause big problems.

Years ago, I had a minor misunderstanding with a truly stunning blonde who misinterpreted something I had said or done and painfully aborted the mission.

Weeks later, after we finally made up, she disclosed something that I found somewhat heartbreaking. She said "what I do is degrading enough".

. . .I think now that perhaps that misconception is at the core of what really troubles providers the most and they may lash out at an innocent request that ruins the session and turns pleasure into hatred. If your self-esteem is too fragile than any little thing can crush you even when no ill will was intended..
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Most of us don't feel degraded because of what we do. I'm sorry she did. Most of us feel degraded by individuals who degrade us, either out of ignorance, because they actually feel and treat us as if they are superior to us or women in general, or simply cause they have little or no regard for others.

[JohnnyYanks]

This fucking guy needs therapy. And a good grammar book.

[MaxiMilyen]

Originally Posted by JohnnyYanks

This fucking guy needs therapy. And a good grammar book.

JY!!!! How the heck are ya?

[JohnnyYanks]

Originally Posted by MaxiMilyen

JY!!!! How the heck are ya?

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