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Hotdamn! Replace anywhere it says normal (because what's "normal" really? lol) with civvie and it's PERFECT!
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Originally Posted by JayceeRivers
I cannot resist answering sugar baby/sugar daddy threads. My Achilles heal when it comes to having an opinion.
I have said it before and will state again. There are no two alike. They are subjective to the individual. No one person is wrong in their unique vision. No more than any normal relationship is wrong in their desires. To one man a "hooker on demand" is a sugar baby. No another a desperate college student who is just looking for a no commitment tryst with a wealthy man is a sugar baby.
Not every arrangement entails car's, diamonds and trips to paris. The only common thread one can pluck from the varying definitions is "sugar" Each giving something to the other in excess. Consider the word sugar for a moment. Sweet, unnecessary and once considered rare. Yes many years ago but work of that premise.
The sugar baby gives her sugar daddy sugar in the form of adoration, physical passion, attention, time, compliments, and companionship. If he does not FEEL like the most desired man on the planet and luckiest guy on earth when he is with her, she is not doing her side. Her job is to make sure he feels appreciated, intelligent, funny, interesting and overall take away the stress of the rest of his world when he needs her to do so. This may involve her needing to take the time to text him throughout the week often. Talking to him on the phone. making sure she is available to him in person when he needs/wants her to be. Being conscious and thankful for the things he does do and not complain or demand when she wants more. Don't get me wrong if she feels she needs/wants more a delicate conversation to discuss her needs should be broached, however she should not be demanding or brash. A spoiled brat making demands does nothing to make anyone feel anything but used. She should not be another stress to his life.
The sugar daddy returns with financial support, often stroking her vanity, offering new experiences and even giving her gifts she would either not purchase for herself or cannot afford to do so. This can range from simply just getting to travel with him and nothing else, all the way to having all of her bills paid in full with an allowance on the side and gifts in between. From a helpful mentor to a lavish gift giver. If the sugar baby is struggling financially, looks or feels dilapidated, and/or is missing tons of work/school to be with him HE is not doing his job. She should feel secure enough that if she needs to take time off of working or her education at his behest that she will not struggle financially. No matter what her job is.
Can escorts/providers be sugar babies. Yes. In fact they may make better sugarbabys IF YOU DO YOUR RESEARCH. Her job does not cement her personality. Not all escorts/providers are money hungry evil women looking to get her next fix on some addictive substance. Not all wealthy men are generous, kind and gentlemanly. Just as not every woman can be a sugar baby not every man can be a sugar daddy.
Know what you want before you go out looking. If you want to be a sugar baby don't go in without knowing what you can give and what you need AND want from the situation. Be prepared to compromise to a certain extent and allow yourself to be you. Be friends, be lovers and confidants. Enjoy him for more than just the wallet or find another. As a sugar daddy be prepared to give materially. be understanding that she is a human being. She may get sick, have family problems, may simply have a bad day.
Why do I feel like SOME providers may make better sugar babies? Simply because likely she has a higher libido and is more interested in satisfying your physical needs as well as her own. She has had more experience satisfying gentlemen mentally, physically, and emotionally. She endeavors to make you feel good. She is far less likely to want to become your wife and step over boundaries that are set.
Yes the drawback is she may be tainted by the money mindset. example: "You are only giving me 1000 a month plus gifts but I spend 3 days a week with you at least. I can make 1000-3000 in those three days if I was seeing clients" That is the biggest fear that I see consistently regurgitated. I appreciate that fear. However understand that mind set is simply a fear of her own. After all it is usually the sugar daddy that does the moving on. What if she is completely reliant on him and then he finds a newer younger version? What if he gets bored? This fear particularly is seeded in those asked to be completely monogamous and/or stop working. The money mindset is easily overcome. Both parties simply need to be open and honest about what they want and need at the start. Be understanding about each others opinions and thoughts on the subject as well as limitations. Find a compromise that will allay both sets of fears. This may include allowing her to continue to escort and accept her chosen occupation with grace or bump up the anti. find a way to alleviate her fears. She may need to prove herself. I have had many sugar daddies throughout the years. One of the ways I have found to help alleviate his fears that I am lying or manipulating him for more money is, I get a bluebird card. a main one and a connecting student one. This way he can put in the card what he feels comfortable with AND monitor where I am spending this money. If I say I am paying a sprint bill with it, he can see I indeed paid that bill with the money he gave me. This helps build trust. As a sugar baby I go out of my way to avoid making it purely about monetary spending and receiving. Yes I am given gifts, money, and trips. However at the start I sit down and discuss what I want, what I expect and what he can expect from me in return. Aside from a quarterly check in to make sure we are both fulfilling our sides I do not ask for anything after that. I leave it in his hands and trust him to fulfill his promises just as he trusts me not to abuse his generosity.
A normal girl in the normal world may or may not be as inclined to be intuitive and try to please her partner. Specially if she is of the younger variety. She may produce more excuses to avoid the bedroom. Yes she is happier with the smaller arrangements but she is likely not going out of her way to know YOU. A normal girl can come with the drawbacks of falling in love and wanting more. She may be more inclined to be indecisive and unsure of what she wants. Her bedroom experience is likely not as developed. The upsides to the normal girls has been stated but for the sake of this long post I feel it necessary to add. She is not tainted by the money for the hour mindset. She is less likely to be sleeping with more than just you. Everything you do that is even moderate could be seen as the most amazing, mouth dropping, heart stopping gift she has ever received. She is often more appreciative. Less demanding. Of course that is not all normal girls. I knew a normal girl who was not an escort who once told me "if my boyfriend does not buy me jimmy choo and Armani he is not worth my time." She was very high maintenance.
The point of this long winded post is simple. If the sugar daddy to be wants a normal girl that does not make him wrong. If he just wants to pay her car payment and nothing else that is not wrong. If he wants to buy her a car and fly her to exotic places he is not wrong. No two arrangements are exactly alike. No two people are exactly the same. Not all escorts make bad sugar babies and not every normal woman makes a good sugar baby. It is as individual and unique as every other type of relationship one can fathom.
Yes, my apologies. I meant non adult industry related women. You are absolutely right mocha. Normal is an impossible word. No such thing.
Old-T
Your wisdom often astounds me. Your kind and untainted nature never fails to brighten my day. However I strongly advise against growing up. It's not nearly as fun as it looks. I know I tried it once. Horrible thing growing up.
I cannot resist answering sugar baby/sugar daddy threads. My Achilles heal when it comes to having an opinion.
I have said it before and will state again. There are no two alike. They are subjective to the individual. No one person is wrong in their unique vision. No more than any normal relationship is wrong in their desires. To one man a "hooker on demand" is a sugar baby. No another a desperate college student who is just looking for a no commitment tryst with a wealthy man is a sugar baby.
Not every arrangement entails car's, diamonds and trips to paris. The only common thread one can pluck from the varying definitions is "sugar" Each giving something to the other in excess. Consider the word sugar for a moment. Sweet, unnecessary and once considered rare. Yes many years ago but work of that premise.
The sugar baby gives her sugar daddy sugar in the form of adoration, physical passion, attention, time, compliments, and companionship. If he does not FEEL like the most desired man on the planet and luckiest guy on earth when he is with her, she is not doing her side. Her job is to make sure he feels appreciated, intelligent, funny, interesting and overall take away the stress of the rest of his world when he needs her to do so. This may involve her needing to take the time to text him throughout the week often. Talking to him on the phone. making sure she is available to him in person when he needs/wants her to be. Being conscious and thankful for the things he does do and not complain or demand when she wants more. Don't get me wrong if she feels she needs/wants more a delicate conversation to discuss her needs should be broached, however she should not be demanding or brash. A spoiled brat making demands does nothing to make anyone feel anything but used. She should not be another stress to his life.
The sugar daddy returns with financial support, often stroking her vanity, offering new experiences and even giving her gifts she would either not purchase for herself or cannot afford to do so. This can range from simply just getting to travel with him and nothing else, all the way to having all of her bills paid in full with an allowance on the side and gifts in between. From a helpful mentor to a lavish gift giver. If the sugar baby is struggling financially, looks or feels dilapidated, and/or is missing tons of work/school to be with him HE is not doing his job. She should feel secure enough that if she needs to take time off of working or her education at his behest that she will not struggle financially. No matter what her job is.
Can escorts/providers be sugar babies. Yes. In fact they may make better sugarbabys IF YOU DO YOUR RESEARCH. Her job does not cement her personality. Not all escorts/providers are money hungry evil women looking to get her next fix on some addictive substance. Not all wealthy men are generous, kind and gentlemanly. Just as not every woman can be a sugar baby not every man can be a sugar daddy.
Know what you want before you go out looking. If you want to be a sugar baby don't go in without knowing what you can give and what you need AND want from the situation. Be prepared to compromise to a certain extent and allow yourself to be you. Be friends, be lovers and confidants. Enjoy him for more than just the wallet or find another. As a sugar daddy be prepared to give materially. be understanding that she is a human being. She may get sick, have family problems, may simply have a bad day.
Why do I feel like SOME providers may make better sugar babies? Simply because likely she has a higher libido and is more interested in satisfying your physical needs as well as her own. She has had more experience satisfying gentlemen mentally, physically, and emotionally. She endeavors to make you feel good. She is far less likely to want to become your wife and step over boundaries that are set.
Yes the drawback is she may be tainted by the money mindset. example: "You are only giving me 1000 a month plus gifts but I spend 3 days a week with you at least. I can make 1000-3000 in those three days if I was seeing clients" That is the biggest fear that I see consistently regurgitated. I appreciate that fear. However understand that mind set is simply a fear of her own. After all it is usually the sugar daddy that does the moving on. What if she is completely reliant on him and then he finds a newer younger version? What if he gets bored? This fear particularly is seeded in those asked to be completely monogamous and/or stop working. The money mindset is easily overcome. Both parties simply need to be open and honest about what they want and need at the start. Be understanding about each others opinions and thoughts on the subject as well as limitations. Find a compromise that will allay both sets of fears. This may include allowing her to continue to escort and accept her chosen occupation with grace or bump up the anti. find a way to alleviate her fears. She may need to prove herself. I have had many sugar daddies throughout the years. One of the ways I have found to help alleviate his fears that I am lying or manipulating him for more money is, I get a bluebird card. a main one and a connecting student one. This way he can put in the card what he feels comfortable with AND monitor where I am spending this money. If I say I am paying a sprint bill with it, he can see I indeed paid that bill with the money he gave me. This helps build trust. As a sugar baby I go out of my way to avoid making it purely about monetary spending and receiving. Yes I am given gifts, money, and trips. However at the start I sit down and discuss what I want, what I expect and what he can expect from me in return. Aside from a quarterly check in to make sure we are both fulfilling our sides I do not ask for anything after that. I leave it in his hands and trust him to fulfill his promises just as he trusts me not to abuse his generosity.
A normal girl in the normal world may or may not be as inclined to be intuitive and try to please her partner. Specially if she is of the younger variety. She may produce more excuses to avoid the bedroom. Yes she is happier with the smaller arrangements but she is likely not going out of her way to know YOU. A normal girl can come with the drawbacks of falling in love and wanting more. She may be more inclined to be indecisive and unsure of what she wants. Her bedroom experience is likely not as developed. The upsides to the normal girls has been stated but for the sake of this long post I feel it necessary to add. She is not tainted by the money for the hour mindset. She is less likely to be sleeping with more than just you. Everything you do that is even moderate could be seen as the most amazing, mouth dropping, heart stopping gift she has ever received. She is often more appreciative. Less demanding. Of course that is not all normal girls. I knew a normal girl who was not an escort who once told me "if my boyfriend does not buy me jimmy choo and Armani he is not worth my time." She was very high maintenance.
The point of this long winded post is simple. If the sugar daddy to be wants a normal girl that does not make him wrong. If he just wants to pay her car payment and nothing else that is not wrong. If he wants to buy her a car and fly her to exotic places he is not wrong. No two arrangements are exactly alike. No two people are exactly the same. Not all escorts make bad sugar babies and not every normal woman makes a good sugar baby. It is as individual and unique as every other type of relationship one can fathom.
Well thought out. It's nice to hear from a provider that has shared her sugar baby experiences. And you're right, there are no two agreements alike.
"Siberia... at the extremely reasonable rate of $100/hr,
I'm positive you would make someone a wonderful Sugar Baby!"
If there is an "hourly rate" involved a man has a whore on his elbow. Dress her up and teach her to say flowery things but she remains a whore. Hourly rates are not something that exists in a SD/SB relationship....
"...Education is useless if you don't use it."
methinks the teacher has been schooled......
Whispers... Do You Know JACK SCHITT???
I do recall DUMB SCHITT...
mentioning you were Kin.
I have had many babies over the years..... The last one that still is involved in my life I found with a CL ad. The one before her through a friend...... I've met many myself in day to day interactions as well as on the websites devoted to it.
Its not impossible, but few and far in between. I'm sure she weeded through several wackos and Bull Crappers before finding you. If not, pure luck and it was made in the stars
Ninotsugi has a problem with
me doing a body rub for 100
is obviously jealous, why else
keep mentioning it, roflmao.
Massage girls are here on
Eccie,duhhhh.
Strippers, porn stars, web cam
girls, etc.
Thanfully I am happy and thats all
that matters.
I think the SD SB arrangements
are more secure if a provider is
trying to compare it to whoredom.
To hell with touring & hotel rooms
traveling from city to city with no life.
I have a S.O. that works offshore
making excellent money and I don't
have to struggle. Women do want
their own money and some control
without being completely codependant
on him.
Siberia Poor Dear... my last post had nothing to do with you, it was a Quote from something Whispers had Posted.
I hope you and yours enjoyed a Blessed Christmas in the Trailer Park or as you so delicately refer to it R.V. Park,
alas Jealousy is NOT the emotion I feel towards you let us use Empathy from now on shall we.
Post 156
"Siberia... at the extremely reasonable rate of $100/hr,
I'm positive you would make someone a wonderful Sugar Baby!"
I can read, you should try.
Siberia is in big, blue, letters.
Thanks for the compliment.
I don't work out of my home like
some idiots. Stalk much? You
must love everything about me
to do so much research. Thxs.
Maybe a SD will buy you some boobs.
Most sugar daddies buy those from what I read.
Btw, you should see my 2 story brick house in TX that my ex bought for me. The nephew
gets to live rent free and keep an watchful eye on the place.
My S.O is getting his home remodeled and I wouldn't dare run tricks through his home.
Sugar daddies are awsome. Glad I'm worthy of such a thing.
Thxs for advertising my
body rubs pimp master. Roflmao
Love your sense of humor.
You on backpage,OMG !!
Noooo. Contradicting comes back on
you.
I cannot resist answering sugar baby/sugar daddy threads. My Achilles heal when it comes to having an opinion.
I have said it before and will state again. There are no two alike. They are subjective to the individual. No one person is wrong in their unique vision. No more than any normal relationship is wrong in their desires. To one man a "hooker on demand" is a sugar baby. No another a desperate college student who is just looking for a no commitment tryst with a wealthy man is a sugar baby.
Not every arrangement entails car's, diamonds and trips to paris. The only common thread one can pluck from the varying definitions is "sugar" Each giving something to the other in excess. Consider the word sugar for a moment. Sweet, unnecessary and once considered rare. Yes many years ago but work of that premise.
The sugar baby gives her sugar daddy sugar in the form of adoration, physical passion, attention, time, compliments, and companionship. If he does not FEEL like the most desired man on the planet and luckiest guy on earth when he is with her, she is not doing her side. Her job is to make sure he feels appreciated, intelligent, funny, interesting and overall take away the stress of the rest of his world when he needs her to do so. This may involve her needing to take the time to text him throughout the week often. Talking to him on the phone. making sure she is available to him in person when he needs/wants her to be. Being conscious and thankful for the things he does do and not complain or demand when she wants more. Don't get me wrong if she feels she needs/wants more a delicate conversation to discuss her needs should be broached, however she should not be demanding or brash. A spoiled brat making demands does nothing to make anyone feel anything but used. She should not be another stress to his life.
The sugar daddy returns with financial support, often stroking her vanity, offering new experiences and even giving her gifts she would either not purchase for herself or cannot afford to do so. This can range from simply just getting to travel with him and nothing else, all the way to having all of her bills paid in full with an allowance on the side and gifts in between. From a helpful mentor to a lavish gift giver. If the sugar baby is struggling financially, looks or feels dilapidated, and/or is missing tons of work/school to be with him HE is not doing his job. She should feel secure enough that if she needs to take time off of working or her education at his behest that she will not struggle financially. No matter what her job is.
Can escorts/providers be sugar babies. Yes. In fact they may make better sugarbabys IF YOU DO YOUR RESEARCH. Her job does not cement her personality. Not all escorts/providers are money hungry evil women looking to get her next fix on some addictive substance. Not all wealthy men are generous, kind and gentlemanly. Just as not every woman can be a sugar baby not every man can be a sugar daddy.
Know what you want before you go out looking. If you want to be a sugar baby don't go in without knowing what you can give and what you need AND want from the situation. Be prepared to compromise to a certain extent and allow yourself to be you. Be friends, be lovers and confidants. Enjoy him for more than just the wallet or find another. As a sugar daddy be prepared to give materially. be understanding that she is a human being. She may get sick, have family problems, may simply have a bad day.
Why do I feel like SOME providers may make better sugar babies? Simply because likely she has a higher libido and is more interested in satisfying your physical needs as well as her own. She has had more experience satisfying gentlemen mentally, physically, and emotionally. She endeavors to make you feel good. She is far less likely to want to become your wife and step over boundaries that are set.
Yes the drawback is she may be tainted by the money mindset. example: "You are only giving me 1000 a month plus gifts but I spend 3 days a week with you at least. I can make 1000-3000 in those three days if I was seeing clients" That is the biggest fear that I see consistently regurgitated. I appreciate that fear. However understand that mind set is simply a fear of her own. After all it is usually the sugar daddy that does the moving on. What if she is completely reliant on him and then he finds a newer younger version? What if he gets bored? This fear particularly is seeded in those asked to be completely monogamous and/or stop working. The money mindset is easily overcome. Both parties simply need to be open and honest about what they want and need at the start. Be understanding about each others opinions and thoughts on the subject as well as limitations. Find a compromise that will allay both sets of fears. This may include allowing her to continue to escort and accept her chosen occupation with grace or bump up the anti. find a way to alleviate her fears. She may need to prove herself. I have had many sugar daddies throughout the years. One of the ways I have found to help alleviate his fears that I am lying or manipulating him for more money is, I get a bluebird card. a main one and a connecting student one. This way he can put in the card what he feels comfortable with AND monitor where I am spending this money. If I say I am paying a sprint bill with it, he can see I indeed paid that bill with the money he gave me. This helps build trust. As a sugar baby I go out of my way to avoid making it purely about monetary spending and receiving. Yes I am given gifts, money, and trips. However at the start I sit down and discuss what I want, what I expect and what he can expect from me in return. Aside from a quarterly check in to make sure we are both fulfilling our sides I do not ask for anything after that. I leave it in his hands and trust him to fulfill his promises just as he trusts me not to abuse his generosity.
A normal girl in the normal world may or may not be as inclined to be intuitive and try to please her partner. Specially if she is of the younger variety. She may produce more excuses to avoid the bedroom. Yes she is happier with the smaller arrangements but she is likely not going out of her way to know YOU. A normal girl can come with the drawbacks of falling in love and wanting more. She may be more inclined to be indecisive and unsure of what she wants. Her bedroom experience is likely not as developed. The upsides to the normal girls has been stated but for the sake of this long post I feel it necessary to add. She is not tainted by the money for the hour mindset. She is less likely to be sleeping with more than just you. Everything you do that is even moderate could be seen as the most amazing, mouth dropping, heart stopping gift she has ever received. She is often more appreciative. Less demanding. Of course that is not all normal girls. I knew a normal girl who was not an escort who once told me "if my boyfriend does not buy me jimmy choo and Armani he is not worth my time." She was very high maintenance.
The point of this long winded post is simple. If the sugar daddy to be wants a normal girl that does not make him wrong. If he just wants to pay her car payment and nothing else that is not wrong. If he wants to buy her a car and fly her to exotic places he is not wrong. No two arrangements are exactly alike. No two people are exactly the same. Not all escorts make bad sugar babies and not every normal woman makes a good sugar baby. It is as individual and unique as every other type of relationship one can fathom.
^^^^ exactly but some are
materialist and doesn't care
about the mans feelings. Some
actually fall in love but can't leave
the family if their are small children
involved.
Post 156
"Siberia... at the extremely reasonable rate of $100/hr,
I'm positive you would make someone a wonderful Sugar Baby!"
I can read, you should try.
Siberia is in big, blue, letters.
Thanks for the compliment.
I don't work out of my home like
some idiots. Stalk much? You
must love everything about me
to do so much research. Thxs.
Maybe a SD will buy you some boobs.
Most sugar daddies buy those from what I read.
Btw, you should see my 2 story brick house in TX that my ex bought for me. The nephew
gets to live rent free and keep an watchful eye on the place.
My S.O is getting his home remodeled and I wouldn't dare run tricks through his home.
Sugar daddies are awsome. Glad I'm worthy of such a thing.
Thxs for advertising my
body rubs pimp master. Roflmao
Love your sense of humor.
You on backpage,OMG !!
Noooo. Contradicting comes back on
you.
I do apologize My Dear... I'm not as fluent in White-Trashese as I perhaps should be,
however this is what little I could understand that you were doing.
RANT: To Speak or Write in an Angry or Emotionally Charged Manner.
In short providing a Steller Example of a Raving Idiot...
I've taken the liberty of providing you a number you could seek the help you need.
Chalmette Mental Health Clinic (504) 373-5901
Why do I have the distinct feeling the two ladies of the gulf coast have a long and unpleasant history with each other?
I don't know either of you, but neither of you seem to be helping your image on this thread. Having said that, Ninotsugi, you are definitely doing serious harm to the "more beautiful on the inside" immage you seek to portray. You both might consider letting this one die.
That sums it up
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